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Just in case someone takes offense to my user name:

I am aware of the implications, but I lived with them all my life. My name is Bertel Schmitt, my initials are BS, they even are monogrammed on my the pockets of my business shirts. I also have used this user name on Wikipedia for many years without anybody complaining. When my parents gave me the name, the abbreviation for bovine excrement did not exist. There even is a copyrighted Autobiography of BS. Nomen being omen, I chose a career in journalism and later advertising, where "Don't BS BS" came in real handy. Hence, I respectfully claim the grandfather clause. At my ripe age, I will not change my initials. If someone thinks they mean something different, then shame on his or her gutter fantasy :)--BsBsBs (talk) 21:36, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

disputed tags

Please stop adding disputed tags without a corresponding explanation on the talk page. This is improper use of the tag and may be considered disruptive. Please read the usage instructions at {{disputed}}. Thanks. Kaldari (talk) 19:57, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Same for the original research tag: "This template should not be applied without explanation on the talk page". Kaldari (talk) 20:02, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also, mass tagging articles is a very bad idea. Please address one article at a time and consider fixing the problems you identify rather than just adding warning templates. Mass tagging is generally considered disruptive and unhelpful. Kaldari (talk) 20:10, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Which tag on which article bothers you? I am tagging completely unsourced lists of city populations. This needs to stop. Alternatively, I could simply remove the info. I completed a A - D today. With some notable exceptions, the vast majority of these city lists are completely unsourced and should not be on WP. Some of them have old tags that did not get results. I will not fix hundreds of lists, because their editors were too lazy. In their context, the tags are self explanatory. Unsourced info is doubtful. Creating rankings from unsourced material is WP:OR. Some hardliners even think creating rankings from sourced material is WP:OR -- BsBsBs (talk) 20:39, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see you are an Administrator, and that you have reverted most, if not all of the tags. It sets a bad precedence when an Administrator anoints articles which are completely without sources and which go against the most basic tenets of WP. I would expect the opposite. Simply creating lists of cities that act as portals for the country is ok. When population data and other info is added to these cities, then it needs to be sourced. -- BsBsBs (talk) 21:01, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to use the {{disputed}} and {{original research}} templates, please follow the instructions given for them. If an article lacks sources, you can add the {{unreferenced}} template to the article without explanation. The other two templates require discussion on the article talk page. Just because an article lacks sources does not automatically mean that it is also disputed and original research. Many of those city list articles date to well before our current sourcing policies and were carefully researched at the time they were written, but the sources were not added to the article since it wasn't required at the time. Kaldari (talk) 23:26, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also, if you're interested in improving geography related articles, you may want to check out Wikipedia:WikiProject_Geography. Perhaps you could start a list sourcing project there and get other editors involved. Just deleting or mass-tagging content generally isn't considered productive and in most cases will be reverted even if you have the best of intentions. Kaldari (talk) 23:37, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. You've made my case, and I rest it. -- BsBsBs (talk) 05:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shanghai

I have added the figures and updated % as you requested in the Shanghai article/Demographics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Giorgostr (talk • contribs) 14:28, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Xie xie! -- BsBsBs (talk) 14:51, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shanghai Santana

(moved to Talk:Volkswagen Passat )

Vielen Dank!

Just wanted to say thanks for your efforts to improve the Volkswagen-related articles. I realise this can be quite hard work, even if you are lucky enough not get caught up in an edit war! I also appreciate your efforts to avoid using original research, which must be very tempting for someone with your background! Letdorf (talk) 12:02, 1 July 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Kein Problem! Sometimes it is a bit hard. I always have the opportunity of creating my own reliable sources, but I hate to do that. I already see that I'm being misquoted :) Working for Volkswagen was full of surprises, and often very counter-intuitive. Finding on-line sources for stuff that happened 20 to 30 years ago is tricky. I had an extensive library, but due to many moves around the world, I had to lighten up. B. -- BsBsBs (talk) 12:09, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you indeed! I also like you guys' instinct for providing relevant information rather than just more of it. This often seems to be a bit of a problem for pages of things with many many fans. ⊂Mr.choppers⊃ (talk) 17:37, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Citypropernts

Template:Citypropernts has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. BsBsBs (talk) 20:27, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

An edit based on disagreements over content is never vandalism. Please stop posting official-looking templates on my user page. They don't scare me. john k (talk) 20:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There was no disagreement over that passage. This passage had stood there for months. There was no discussion about it. You wiped it out without reason, without discussion, and without anybody having mentioned it. Along with it, you deleted several references, which now leave the article unreferenced. This and the snippy remark "If I remove the UN definition, does that mean this article is no longer a fraud?" walks, talks, and quacks like pure vandalism. As an Administrator, you should know netter. The template is not there to scare you. It's there to provide the required notice. -- BsBsBs (talk) 20:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

World's largest municipalities by population

I have listed this article of yours on AfD, you're welcome to take part in the AfD-discussion here [Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/World's largest municipalities by population].

Wouldn't it be nice to know who listed the article? P=lease always sign your comments. BsBsBs (talk) 08:32, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ANI

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WP:ANI warning

This is the second and final warning to you: if you do not immediately stop your disruptive editing on Talk:Shanghai and other pages, a formal complaint will be filed against you on WP:ANI. Zanhe (talk) 01:03, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Timpo (talk) 07:25, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

January 2012

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Editors_for_hire. Please comment on the content and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. You are welcome to rephrase your comment as a civil criticism of the article. Thank you. Comparing editors to Nazis, as you just did, is specifically prohibited. Ebikeguy (talk) 17:15, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is interesting. When I was raising the problems of personal attack, I am being personally attacked for alleged personal attacks.

No, you are being warned that comparing editors to Nazis, as you just did to me, is specifically called out as a violation of WP:NPA.Ebikeguy (talk) 18:41, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please cite where I say "Ebikeguy is a Nazi?"BsBsBs (talk) 18:45, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The "Yellow Star" you accuse me of using was a badge the Nazis forced Jews to wear during the Holocaust, to identify themselves as Jews. Thus, your accusation directly compares me to the Nazis who forced the Jews to wear the "Yellow Stars." Ebikeguy (talk) 19:03, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, so no citation. Please stop accusing other people of attacks that only exist in your imagination. End of discussion. BsBsBs (talk) 20:55, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but I do not understand your response. I thought I made the association between Nazis and the "Yellow Star" quite clear. Please explain what you mean by "no citation." Thanks very much. Ebikeguy (talk) 21:09, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

BsBsBs, your behavior in making the "Yellow Star" comment was outrageous and unproductive. Your continued obstinant attitude about it is even worse. You should apologize.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 04:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Brandmarking individuals, or whole classes of people is inhumane and cruel. Throughout history, it was used to cow, to denigrate, to single-out for mistreatment by frenzied mobs. Requests to do so make me shudder.

What makes my blood freeze is when the founder of a democratic institution suddenly takes sides with voices that suggest inhumane and antidemocratic acts.

What makes my blood freeze is when the founder eggs people on to take real-life direct action against real-life people, and when the founder, in doing so, publicly alienates his own volunteer security forces that tried to establish much needed order.

What makes my blood freeze is when the founder suddenly requires apologies from people who are on the side of liberty, freedom, and civilized behavior. Before I apologize for that, I will rather cut my tongue out.

However, should you decide to retract, or to simply remove the statement where you encourage real-life direct off-wiki action, and real-life pillorying, encouragements which, especially when misunderstood, could turn real-life dangerous, then I will gladly apologize for anything. There is no price high enough for peace and liberty, and the protection of the individual from mob rule.

I have been active in keeping the Foundation funded by quietly translating reams of funds drive material. Apparently, even the Foundation cannot exist without money. You will understand that I no longer can provide unpaid services until this shameful matter is settled.BsBsBs (talk) 08:19, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

re Demand for proof or retraction

Sorry, my mistake. I retracted and apologized for my error at Jimbo's talk page. Herostratus (talk) 21:03, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject Cooperation

I just recently started Wikiproject Cooperation and I thought you would be interested. Thanks for your time. Silverseren^C 01:01, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiProject Cleanup

Hello, BsBsBs. You are invited to join WikiProject Cleanup, a WikiProject and resource for Wikipedia cleanup listings, information and discussion. To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Northamerica1000^(talk) 00:21, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Colspan and sortable tables

Could you help explain why colspan doesn't work with sortable tables at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports? Thanks. 116.48.86.50 (talk) 09:55, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]