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James Moore photo suggestion

Thanks Liam for the photo suggestions, there were a couple of other James Moores - a building material supplier and a bishop. so I might need to do a bit of research to see if these pics are of my railway engineer - at least one seems to be the right period at least. all the best. Garyvines (talk) 09:05, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Trams in Melbourne

Hi Liam. As an interstate resident, I can confirm the truth of the comment about tourism. I'll get back to you about a suitable reference. Any book about trams in Australia published since the 1970s would probably suffice. I don't mind you putting back into the article the English language reference for the size of the network. I removed it only because it was for 2008, not 2011. I agree with your idea about merging the sections about proposals, etc. Before you do that, you might want to consider moving the stuff about the proposals to some of the pages about the individual routes rather than deleting it altogether. (As I understand them, most of the proposals are for extending existing routes rather than building completely new ones, so material about a proposal to extend line X could be moved to the article about line X rather than deleted.) Finally, I was in Mel last weekend, and took some photos of trams in the city centre, but I haven't uploaded any to commons yet. One thing I noticed is that the Ws are now rarely seen, so it may be appropriate to change the photo in the infobox, perhaps to a B2 class, which I think is probably now the best candidate for being described as a "typical Melbourne tram". Bahnfrend (talk) 01:15, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply. After looking through the pictures I'd taken, I decided on a different idea for the infobox image. I hope you like it. I'll upload some more pictures over the next week or so. Bahnfrend (talk) 16:30, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liam. The article looks much improved to me. Keep up the good work! Bahnfrend (talk) 05:29, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry

I am really sorry and will re-read the guidelines again. Sorry about all these images that have been renamed and I am willing to do a favour for you, whatever it is (not too big) and also fix the redirects to the images.

Really Really Sorry.

David. S 06:49, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! Wait! As you did say that you did not like simply redirects to images, on the 'Move Image' page, it does say that a Bot will fix this later although I will personally fix the 'double-redirects' by myself.

Sorry for ANY inconvenience caused and, if possible, please respond by sending an email by using the email icon on the top-right of my page because I'd rather emails than posts.

Thanks and Sorry again.

David. S 06:56, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Nice editing. David. S 05:48, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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New infobox

Hi Liam. I am currently developing a new Template:Infobox tram route, for use on articles such as Melbourne tram route 96. The infobox is based on Template:Infobox bus line, and would be used in all of the articles about Melbourne tram routes in place of the existing Melbourne-specific infobox, which I think is not very attractive or informative. You can have a look at the prototype on my sandbox page, and I would welcome any comments (the infobox would also have a yarra trams logo at the top when included in the actual articles). If you want to see how the infobox looks on a real page, I've already put it into the English language articles about the Brussels tram routes, eg Brussels tram route 3, but I don't propose to put a coloured strip across the top of the infoboxes in the articles about the Melbourne tram routes. Bahnfrend (talk) 15:21, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your alterations and comments. I've now put the new infobox on the Melbourne tram route 109 article. It incorporates all of your suggestions, except that the background at the top has been reverted to white, because the yarra trams logo doesn't look right on a green background. I'm now going to leave that article as is for a little while, to see whether there's any reaction from any other editors before I add the infobox to any other articles. Bahnfrend (talk) 15:03, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- It's actually possible to display two logos in the infobox. I've modified Melb tram route 109 accordingly. To see what the two logos look like when displayed together, hit "edit" on that article, remove the comment marks from around the two parameters immediately above the "image" parameter in the infobox, and then press "show preview". That said, I think the infobox looks better with just the yarra trams logo; I've modified the "operator" parameter so that it now says "Yarra Trams for Public Transport Victoria". Bahnfrend (talk) 09:59, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I've now added a zone parameter. Bahnfrend (talk) 01:23, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

January 2013

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Transdev Melbourne

Hey there, we've now managed to expand Transdev Melbourne to the extent that it is eligible for WP:DYK and can (hopefully) be placed on the front page of wiki. I wish to nominate it in both our names, but would like to sort a few little things out first. Firstly, what should the hook be? We need something short and catchy that is supported by the text of the article. I would like to ask if it can be held over until 1 August and run with the hook "...today Transdev Melbourne start operating 30% of Melbourne's bus network?", or something along those lines. But ideas would be good.

Secondly, I'd like to come to some consensus about destination names, I would prefer to use the names stated in the PTV timetables as: they indicate the actual suburb first, not the shopping centres brand name; they are verifiable through the PTV website; and they are sometimes broader and therefore more accurate (Box Hill comes to mind, true the station is in the shopping centre, but it also serves the railway station, and broader suburb), I would prefer:

Doncaster Shoppingtown over Westfield Doncaster
Box Hill over Centro Box Hill
Southland Shopping Centre over Westfield Southland

Either piped or redirects could be used, to still send users to an accurate, specific page, but the locality would come first rather than shopping centre brand name. This will aid users when they sort the columns. You can reply here, on my talk page, or on the Transdev Melbourne talk page, I'll keep an eye on all of them.

Also, sorry if I've been standing on your toes a little, but two users editing simultaneously can sometimes cause conflicts. Liamdavies (talk) 10:03, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agree between the two of us we have created an informative article. Guess the other thing that may happen is the article may need to be renamed, I just presumed Transdev Melbourne would be the name when I created it.

My thinking on shopping centre names is that Centro Box Hill is the centre's name, if you stood in the street opposite it, that's what you would see. Also clarifies where in Box Hill it starts. Eliminates potential confusion where there may be a shopping centre and a High Street shopping strip in close proximity. It is a brand name, but I don't think it contravenes Wiki's rules on advertising. But I do see your point, I am anti calling things by sponsor names, eg never refer to stadiums by their commercial name, Docklands Stadium is not Etihad Stadium in my book.

No damage done to toes, two editors will never agree entirely, but we were both headed in the same direction, took each other's opinions on board and ended up with a better finished product, many thanks for your efforts. Put it this way, I have had far more frustrating conflicts with other editors.Mo7838 (talk) 11:21, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

One last thing to ask is, how good are you at identifying bus types? I'm very familiar with trams, but buses not so much, and it would be nice to insert a fleet table into pages. Regards, Liamdavies (talk) 11:31, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reasonably good (I think!!).Mo7838 (talk) 11:35, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like were are wanting to move in the same direction (yay civility is good!), I agree with the anti brand name, but that's not my primary reason for wanting to change (although I must admit it is a little). My main concern is that if a user hits the sort alphabetically button on a column, Doncaster will show up under W, Box Hill under C etc etc. This is why I wish to pipe the link to the shopping centre, but use the suburb/PTV name. I'm also wondering if we should use a flatlist like in the infobox to separate large lists of suburbs, such as the orbitals. And... what is our definition of a 'hub', if we sort 'standards' out here (or on a talk page somewhere later) we can use the Transdev page (which I feel is already almost the best developed) as a template for the others.

My feeling is that the name can stay, and it should only be changed if Transdev use a trading as name (alla Yarra Trams and Metro Trains, it was in the contract for both the rail operators, who knows what the story is here).

Pages 23, 25 & 26 of the tender document list the buses in the fleet, could you please identify which ones we have in the comms cats MBL, NBC and SmartBus? Then maybe we can start to build a table, at least representing the fleet for a start. Also, do you mind if I go ahead and make the changes I've proposed to the routes table? Liamdavies (talk) 11:52, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good point re shopping centres. What defines a hub, bit like how long is a piece of string? It's hard to pinpoint, I look for where there are multiple services either terminating or passing through, but where do you draw the line? Certainly think it should be kept below 10 members. Will be able to identify the bus types.Mo7838 (talk) 12:25, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Photos identified:

Melbourne Bus Link

1) Volgren bodied Scania L94UB in Queen Street, Melbourne

2) Volgren bodied Scania L94UB

3) Volgren bodied Scania L94UB in Market Street, Melbourne

National Bus Company (by row)

1) sold

2) sold

3) DesignLine bodied MAN 16.240

4) Custom Coaches bodied MAN 15.220 outside the Young and Jackson Hotel

5) DesignLine bodied MAN 16.220

6) Custom Coaches bodied MAN 15.220