Talk:List of countries and dependencies by population

Turkey

Turkey has a higher population then Iran now. --108.92.162.111 (talk) 20:40, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

• The population of Turkey became 75 627 384 on December 31, 2012, but Iran has ranked higher. We need another source to list Iran with a lower population. -Wikid77 (talk) 09:18, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Rewrote table for Template:Autotable5_big

I have rewritten the table of populations to auto-number the rows, by using quick Template:Autotable5_big which inserts a row number for each 5 parameters, to automatically number the 242 rows (of 280 maximum). To allow an equals sign '=' in the URLs, each URL is wrapped in curly braces now, as {{{|[http:...]}}}, so any http text is passed into {{autotable5_big}} using a blank parameter. The rewrite of all 242 rows took several weeks to streamline (while carefully testing in the talk-page /sandbox version), so some population figures had changed, and the table is still being updated to match the latest numbers. Feel free to keep updating the table, but remember there are no longer any row numbers in the article markup, so search for each nation's name, as added to locate a row when editing, or hunt for the 3-letter cryptic codes ("LCA") which are still in the table markup. As rows are moved, or more added, the row numbers will automatically renumber in proper sequence. -Wikid77 (talk) 20:39, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

• Extensive auto-numbered rewrite was reverted, discarded after 1 day: With no follow-up to ensure quality, the auto-numbered version, which had "magically" renumbered all 242 entries, was instantly discarded to return to the tedious, manual list of hard-coded rank numbers, and the 239 nation names were removed to again have only the cryptic 3-letter nation codes in the huge markup table. Search inside for 235 nation names, and nothing will match to the rows as seen in the formatted page. The page was returned to the primitive search by population number, because all recent 239 nation names were removed from the page. However, eventually some figures were updated, to no longer match the auto-numbered version of the article. Anyway, the rank numbers do not change very often, so the manual ranks are fine, but the 239 nation names should be inside the markup table. -Wikid77 (talk) 09:18, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

EVERYONE PLEASE READ

Everyone last week I fixed the Puerto Rico and the United States Virgin Islands sections to show that they are still part of the USA because they are NOT there own states. I ask that no one please change those. These two island territories are NOT there own country, they are unorganized territories of the United States. Why are people so difficult sometimes! tom991 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom991 (talk • contribs) 20:43, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm not trying to start a fight here, but perhaps people are "difficult" because the the article itself states that the list is "based on the ISO standard ISO 3166-1" and that standard specifically includes both Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands.

Although it doesn't affect this argument, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands are not "unorganized territories", they are "unincorporated organized territories" (cite). "Unincorporated" means that the inhabitants do not necessarily have "all the rights, advantages, and immunities of citizens of the United States", while "organized" means that they have an organized government. Cwelgo (talk) 05:18, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

ISO 3166-1 re Kosovo

The ISO 3166-1 is useless, as it leaves out whole countries like Kosovo (which I have been trying to include). Kosovo's population is not included under Serbia - which would otherwise be c. 9 million - therefore it must be listed separately. I am thinking of deleting the reference to ISO 3166-1 at the beginning of the article - the ISO standard seems politically motivated. 24.108.61.172 (talk) 22:26, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

The same goes for Abkhazia, Transistria and a few others entities. Kosovo's final status is undetermined, and until this is solved it could be either merged with Serbia's population count or omitted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Npi2000 (talk • contribs) 18:12, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

I will put in Abkhazia, Transnistria, South Ossetia and Nagorno-Karabakh. A good compromise can be found at List of countries by area - including debatable countries, but leaving them out of the sequential numbering system. 24.108.61.172 (talk) 18:32, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Talk:List of countries by population/Archive 5#Excludes. Formally without these territories. This in a footnote. --PlatonPskov (talk) 20:58, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Figures do not add up

If population of India is 1,270,272,105, then its percentage of the world population would be 18.12% not 17%. The former is correct percentage. However, I cannot edit and make the change because I do not know how. The same applies to China. If the population figures are correct, then the Chinese percentage of the world population is 19.31% not what is written in the chart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.244.22.193 (talk) 00:45, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

• Population of India in May 2013 is set at 1,210,569,573: Because the population count being used is 60 million lower, the percentage is closer to 17% (rather than 18.12%). The current value for {worldpop} is: 8,130,701,000, and the formula gives: ( 1,210,569,573 / 8130701000 ) * 100 = 14.889%. A count 60 million higher would rank near 18% instead. -Wikid77 (talk) 09:18, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Norwegian flag?

That small flag attached to Norway (nr. 118) is definitely not my country's flag. See this page for the correct one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.203.133.228 (talk) 23:30, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

• FIXED. The list has been corrected to show the proper Flag of Norway. Thanks for reporting the problem. -Wikid77 (talk) 09:18, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Western Sahara

I have addressed this before: I don't see how the flag of the SADR represents the territory. The SADR controls a sparsely populated 20-25% part of Western Sahara. 109.99.71.97 (talk) 19:32, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

700 Million South Asian Muslims, 3rd Largest population in the world

There are approximately 700 Million South Asian Muslims.

Pakistan: 200 Million

India: 250 Million (due to continuous under counting of the Muslim population by the indian government for the past 6 decades, the Muslim population is generally accepted to be more than the official 200 million number. A large majority of Muslims are leaving india and settling in other Muslim countries but are always counted under the same group and always play the foremost role in south asian Muslim activities).

Bangladesh: 160 Million

Kashmir: 20 Million

Taking into account other variables, its an approximate population of 700 million. The third largest in the world. I propose making another section for world population based on ethnicity in addition to countries. To show which are the biggest population groups in the world. Muslim Army Knives (talk) 07:08, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

See List of religious populations. Mightymights (talk) 15:30, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

That page shows populations for groups as a whole. I am referring to biggest populations based on single ethnic groups. Muslim Army Knives (talk) 10:52, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Canada excessive

The population listed for Canada is excessive. The 2011 census found the population to be only 33,476,000.--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 13:05, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

A census never captures 100% of a country's population, and also consider that Canada's estimates are still based on the 2006 census. More information here. —Pristino (talk) 07:47, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Table is a mess and of little use

The article's table is a mess and pretty much useless. We have country population from different dates, different sources and different types of studies (projections, censuses, etc.) which are NOT comparable. The UN has just released its 2012 revision of world population for over 200 world entities from 1950 to 2100. We should just stick to that to make the list comparable to some degree. What do you think? —Pristino (talk) 07:39, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

The table I just looked at, titled "File POP/1-1: Total population (both sexes combined) by major area, region and country, annually for 1950-2100 (thousands)" covered 1950-2010 (not 2100), so it's 3 years out of date already. This article isn't. --AussieLegend (✉) 08:40, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Look at the next sheet called "MEDIUM FERTILITY" for 2010-2100 projections. Pristino (talk) 05:24, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

The population figure for 2013 doesn't match the Australian Bureau of Statistics estimates, so it's incorrect. --AussieLegend (✉) 11:29, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

The UN makes its own calculations. That it doesn't match the one calculated by a local statistics office doesn't make it incorrect. Pristino (talk) 06:45, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes it does. The Australian Bureau of Statistics is the only agency in the world that actually does a physical count of all persons in Australia. At best the UN data is likely to be a derivative work of the ABS data. If it's not, then it's an educated guess. The same can be said for most (all?) other countries. Official counts by a country's official census agency is a far better indication of population than a guess by the UN. --AussieLegend (✉) 07:34, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Not always, as Equatorial Guinea's highly suspicious population census show. But beyond politically-motivated data manipulation, the UN estimates are using a consistent methodology and definition across countries. For example, the UN uses de facto population on a specific date (1 July); some countries provide de jure population only and possibly on different dates, such as 1 January or 30 June. Pristino (talk) 08:42, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

A New Column Showing Current Estimated Growth Rate?

There is a good bit of healthy nitpicking here. But I want to say I am delighted that this page exists and is as clean as it is. To those who have been doing the work, a big THANK YOU! This is essential information. One thing that would be really nice to have is another column indicating current growth rate for each country. I realize that's a sticky wicket, since like population size, estimates are only worth so much and even good estimates can become dated quickly. But still, I think including growth rate would put things in perspective. I don't know the most reliable sources for such data, but I assume those working on this do. So, again, thank you! Eperotao (talk) 18:05, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

CIA World Factbook

I'd like to know if the CIA World Factbook could be used to re-do this list. What's the point in having a list with population estimates for 2010 and 2013 together? The world population increased from 6.8 to 7.1 billion, that's a 300 million difference. The article has even a 2008 estimate. Some of these non-updated countries have big populations that can make a big difference (Indonesia and India are good examples of this).

On the other side, Chinese population simply couldn't fall by 5 million people in 6 months (1.354B for 12/31 according to official estimate, 1.349B for 7/1 according to CIA World Factbook), so I'm not sure of the accuracy of this list.

I also found this one, though I don't know if it's reliable enough.

We can make two (or even more) lists, just like we do in the GDP stuff.

Sorry if my English is wrong, and regards.  Roetorm  (talk • contribs)

The CIA's July 2013 estimate for Australia is 22,262,501. Australia's official population clock estimates that right now the population is already 800,000 more than that. As a population guide, the CIA "fact" book is not very factual. --AussieLegend (✉) 23:58, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

No way to the CIA or rather the US Census Bureau international database (where the CIA gets it's population data from). The CIA World Factbook is a prime example of don't believe everything you read. Elockid ^(Talk) 01:51, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

CIA World Factbook is not always reliable as, neither is UN estimates. For most countries the population numbers they gives are very crude estimates. In case of some less developed contries, these soursces may be a subsitute for lack of new national official updates.

Most developed countries makes official updates (estimates) every month or every three months (quaterly). The national offices of statistics are the best sources, even if these also sometimes are not 100 % accurate.

Countries of the United Kingdom

I am curious to know why countries within the United Kingdom are not included on this list, whilst countries such as in the kingdom of Denmark are - Greenland, Denmark and the Faroe islands are all separate but Scotland, N. Ireland, Wales and England are not. 31.53.188.191 (talk) 20:21, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit summary (Briefly describe the changes you have made)

I would be more useful and much easier to follow the daily updates if everyone editing (the list of countries by population) kindly would specify the subject of their edit in the information box below the editing list, for instance "Update on Cuba". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sokndal (talk • contribs) 23:57, 18 July 2013 (UTC)