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Additional Artists

edIT - certainly belong to this category. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.121.108.162 (talk) 12:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC) Does anyone think that Autechre and Squarepusher belong to this category? -asmadeus 21:43, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and maybe no. Autechre, I see has been added. Squarepusher I would be very hesitant to add. Aphex Twin would be an easy addition, though he is not as 'glitchy' as Autechre. I will add him now. --Nick 05:16, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]


squarepusher no? of course he should!!!!!


also Wrong design

Autechre yes, Squarepusher and Venetian Snares are closer to Breakcore, I really feel the need to remove them. Glitch simulates the sound of skipping CDs, breakcore is just very intense breakbeat music.

As well, Coil is on here, as a huge Coil fan I find this questionable in the extreme. Furthermore, they are under 'Notable Artists' ?! Even's Coils' 'Worship the Glitch' has almost no glitch in it. For the most part, their music is ambient and spoken word.


In my opinion, none of them are glitch at all! Glitch is stuff like Nobukazu Takemura's Scope or especially Oval - stuff which sounds like malfunctioning equipment, what with skipping samples, wobbly ambient-like sounds, etc. The aim of glitch music was initially a somewhat deconstructive effort involving the radical "remixing" of various sources into something utterly irrecognisable which, precisely, sounds like a skipping CD. Also, traditional glitch has the tendance to avoid drum machines and synthesizers, working only with samples, and with an enormous focus on the way in which digital audio works, and the way that digital audio processing devices are, and their byproducts, faults, eventualities, etc (i.e. glitches.) After that, some people imitated the technique without the theorical back-up, and even made variations which overlap with techno, etc. However, Autechre and Aphex Twin come from a techno background which has nothing to do with this (and actually predates Oval by some years - Systemisch has been confirmed to be made mostly out of samples from AFX's SAW II! Listen to the track "Compact Disc" - it's quite recognisably Aphex Twin's "Radiator"), and Squarepusher comes from a jazz and jungle background, so I don't think any of them are glitch at all! That's why I had deleted them... I'm sorry about not asking!

About Venetian Snares, some of their work definitely resembles a cd skipping ("Unborn Baby" anyone?), but probably not enough to warrant a mention here. Probably; I've not heard all his work. Ours18 15:33, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, no-one bite my head off cos I'm only really discovering this stuff now but...Figurine? Yes? No? I'm just interested to see if it counts as Glitch, because Dntel's on here and...yeah. Thoughts? NZHC 04:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Venetian Snares and Squarepusher are both definitely glitch among other things. Squarepusher is not breakcore by any means, though Snares is. T-1 20:49, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MC Lars has nothing that sounds like glitch hop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.72.142.199 (talk) 16:55, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Back in 2005 someone was going to add Aphex Twin?... I seriously think Aphex Twin should MOST definitely be referrenced as a notable artist...I am not going to do it. Telephone Tel Aviv? Altho their new album is not glitch at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.92.101.120 (talk) 23:43, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Via Venetian Snares; Litsen to Songs About My Cats. DEFINATLY should keep him.

Conkern65 (talk) 15:24, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

re-add royalty-free or fair-use sample please

Can someone please re-add a link or upload of appropriately licensed example music depicting this genre? The current link appears to be dead. here may be a place to look for open-source music examples. Thanks! dr.ef.tymac 01:48, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

I'd like to see some sources that point out how this "genre" was defined and by who. "Genre" definitions don't just pop out of thin air (though much of the underground press would seem to think so). Cheers! --NightMonkey 19:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't this one fairly obvious? It was bound to happen at some point, just like distressed type in the graphic design field. People get tired of the clean sights and sounds, so they break the boundary. What else would you call it but "glitch"? What else would "glitch" sound like? Chadparker (talk) 22:50, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
First, are you saying it was magic or genetic?
Secondly, if glitch is a metaphor then "glitch" could sound as many different ways as you can think. If glitch is literal than "glitch" could sound as many different ways as there are of having malfunctions in as many things you can have malfunctions in. Hyacinth (talk) 00:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this article needs citations badly. I glitch is obscure enough, but all these sub-glitch genres are a little too much. Xe7al (talk) 22:42, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Glitch Mob

I'm not an experienced Wikipedia editor so don't think I'd be up to the job but I couldn't help but notice there's no mention of the Glitch Mob, the glitch-hop collective, or indeed an article on them. Would anyone be interested in writing one?

The problem is we have no page for Glitch-Hop. The Glitch-hop link under artist pages links to this page, which I think is inaccurate. I'm trying to right a page for Glitch-hop but I'm not the best at wiki markup. I'm not sure if other people are able to edit others drafts but if they can then I would love some help. The address for the draft is http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Glitch-Hop&oldid=567354870 — Preceding unsigned comment added by FryMonkey237 (talk • contribs) 19:51, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Original Research

I believe the following excerpt that was previously located on the article page to be original research:

The Glitch and Shoegaze Overlap

Some artists have mixed the occasionally harsh noise aspects of glitch with what is often referred to as shoegazer music. Artists on labels such as Morr Music fall into this category and maintain a focus on IDM beats and pop rock melodies and song structures. The two-disc Morr Music compilation Blue Skied an' Clear is a perfect introduction to this stylistic overlap; the shoegazer band Slowdive has its songs reworked by Morr artists on the first disc.

The overlap between glitch and shoegazer music also includes some artists that have moved away from the song structures and defined beats mentioned above, favouring more ambient forms. The general shoegazer style of pop rock melodies buried under layers of reverberation and distortion is combined with the precise programming capabilities of digital signal processing. Televise (ex slowdive member Simon Scott), Fennesz and Tim Hecker are three notable artists that have received critical praise for their compositions done in this style. The looped constructions of lovesliescrushing, from about 1992, demonstrated a pre-glitch sound. Later, in 2000, the band ventured into the computer realm by translating their signature four track guitar damage into an iMac to produce glissceule and voirshn, dubbed glitch bliss. The duo Belong has also released music of this nature. In addition to comparing them to other ambient or electronic musicians, reviewers and fans also tend to mention the similarities to My Bloody Valentine (arguably the most highly regarded band of the early 1990s shoegazer movement). The primary point of similarity is the emphasis placed on the texture of the music; it appears to play as important a role as the melodies themselves. Also, see Labradford, The Night Owl Cafe Killers, or Little Glitches for similarly ambient/glitch sounds. Japanese artist World's End Girlfriend often combines glitch beats with elements of Post-Rock music.

68.46.183.96 (talk) 10:40, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sub-Genres

I will be removing all the sub genres unless someone sources them. Ridernyc (talk) 03:14, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So not only does the genre Glitch-Hop redirect to the Glitch page, which is not the same thing, now you have even removed the mention of Glitch-Hop from the page. What sources do you need to prove a genre exists? Glitch-Hop has it's own section on Beatport.com and there are thousands of producers making work they call glitch-hop. Many artists wikipedia page list Glitch-hop as the genre they produce. Isn't that proof enough of its existence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.216.242.119 (talk) 02:53, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Artists

Wouldn't it be appropriate to add some artists to this puppy? All the other music articles are doing it. Just a (..tongue in cheek) thought. Lighthead (talk) 22:44, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was glancing at a previous section on this talk page, and we went from arguing about who to add as an artist, to deleting them all? What's going on here?! As always, I have to be fixing everybody's mistake and lack of oversight! Lighthead (talk) 22:53, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As always I'm the only one who cares; or in this case even notices. Fixed it. I think it was a vandal, but what pisses me off is that everyone's just like: "Okay! Whatever! Doop-di-doo!" Lighthead (talk) 23:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is Glitch also known as Glitch Hop?

I heard this a lot from Youtube. So, does Glitch is also known as Glitch Hop? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.144.30.203 (talk) 20:02, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, Glitch Hop is a sub-genre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.144.30.203 (talk) 20:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]


I believe that Glitch-Hop is an independent genre from glich that combines stylistic influcences from glich with hip hop beats and lately also the heavy bass sounds of dubstep. Glitch-Hop should not redirect to Glitch since it is not the same thing. At least it should have its own section within the Glitch page.

I think Glitch Hop and Glitchcore don't have much in common with the 90s Glitch described in this article (except for glitchy electronic sounds). So it probably is wrong to forward people to this page without having at least a pararaph about those genres. I too see the connection to Dubstep and Grime. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.219.131.243 (talk) 16:03, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is why we need an independent Glitch-Hop page. A number of artist wiki pages list Glitch-Hop as their genre and the link redirects to this page. This is the same as if the Dubstep link redirected to the Dub page. The Glitch-hop is completely distinct from Glitch.

Kid 606 is notable and he is glitch.

If anyone wants to delete my edit of Kid 606 as glitch you have to give me a really good reason. Is it because you feel he's not so notable? His article is roughly the same size as that of Oval's; about 5 KB's. Is it because you feel he's not glitch? Every article on the web about him references him as glitch or lumps him with other artists that obviously are glitch. What's the deal? Check out the references. Gaahh... Lighthead...KILLS!! 20:50, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Help! We need a page specifically for Glitch-hop.

Glitch-hop is a new electronic music genre that is distinct from Glitch. The glitch-hop link under genre tab for glitch-hop producers links to the glitch page. There used to be a mention of glitch-hop on this page under the sub-genre category and now even that has been removed. This is comparable to having a link for Heavy-metal send viewers to the page for psychedelic rock. At least I think the Glitch-hop link should link to "this page does not exist page" since no page for Glitch-hop actually exists. I'm not familiar with editing wikipedia but I will try my best to figure this out. I would really appreciate any help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.216.242.119 (talk) 03:06, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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