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Please update the tense of one sentence

In the section titled "Detention and court appearance" there is a sentence towards the bottom which begins with: "Holmes will be back in court January 7, 2013..."

This is past tense as January 7th has already occurred. Thanks! 67.131.130.14 (talk) 18:15, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Conversion to Islam

There are a few sources reporting today that Holmes has converted to Islam. Given that the primary source is the Daily Mail, who quote an unnamed source, I feel that this needs to be taken with several large grains of salt. The information has already been added twice by an IP; I feel pretty strongly that this shouldn't go into the article until we have much greater corroboration. Euchrid (talk) 02:35, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am the one that initially put it up. Most of the other articles reporting just refer to the Daily Mail, so IF people want different sources, after their 'own' investigation of the so-called fact Egan converted, wait. If not, put it back. Kennvido (talk) 12:19, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Whether he has or not, it is irrelevant anyway. Who cares? WWGB (talk) 12:26, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You have a valid point... this guy? Who cares? Kennvido (talk) 13:35, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It would be relevant to a biography page such as this. It however does not have reliable sources supporting it as true. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 02:31, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is information on Holme's conversion to Islam on Robert Spencer's website Jihad Watch as well. As far as whether his conversion is relevant, it completely is. Holmes has stated that his attack was a personal Jihad and that his victims were infidels. The only reason that this information is kept out of the main article and the media is because of the swarm of political correctness around talking about Islamic Jihad.

Exclamation point and a bad sentence

Why is the sentence at the end of the page of prosecutors seeking death penalty ended with an exclamation point? Doesn't seem neutral or professional. Also there is this sentence in the last section " It's information that up until then had not been released." If you are reading this sentence is choppy and really breaks the flow of reading. It should be re written or phrased into another whole sentence already there somehow. Hope I'm doing this right since it's protected so I can't edit myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.146.68 (talk) 16:59, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

well I don't see much of an issues with that exclamation mark.. and yes you're right I'm not a professional but the sentence you mentioned is not of my origin... however it's fixed already! --Fox2k11 (talk) 18:00, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Islam

Articles for Victims of the 2012 Aurora, Colorado Killings

If Mr. Holmes is notable as a suspected perpetrator of the 2012 Aurora, Colorado massacre, then why not make articles for the victims of the 2012 Aurora, Colorado massacre? It would seem they, too, would serve as notable as they were killed in this obviously noteworthy event.174.102.42.226 (talk) 06:36, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, you should read WP:VICTIM. Perpetrators attract notability through their deeds. Victims only attract notability if they in turn have done something notable, like Victoria Leigh Soto. WWGB (talk) 08:03, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I did look at it. It says 

  "Where there are no appropriate existing articles, the criminal or victim in question should be the subject    
   of a Wikipedia article only if one of the following applies:
   The victim... consistent with WP:BLP1E had a large role within a well-documented historic event."

Their being murdered was a large role in the 2012 Aurora shooting, which considering it has a Wikipedia article dedicated to it, would imply Wikipedia considers it to be a well-documented historic event.--174.102.42.226 (talk) 22:41, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I once Created an Article-stub for one of the victims of the aurora shooting in the end the census of the deletion discussion was delete per WP:BLP1E so save yourself the time if you don't have enough resources of an Victim that would make him or her enough notable to have a standalone article like WWGB already mentioned f.e Victoria Leigh Soto Fox2k11 (talk) 21:29, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What about a photo?

Preferably one with his bright red hair where he's all pretty like.

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