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Quality of Sources
I question the usefulness of Kaviyani Derafsh's "Aisha and Safwan" as a source for the accusation of adultery section.
- The link goes to an Arabic page. The reader has to hunt around to find the correct article in English.
- Who is this person? He just seems to be a blogger, not a historian. Any sources he quotes stand or fall on their own merits; his personal opinion does not seem to carry any authority.
- Most of the story he tells is not referenced to any source. It's just his retelling.
- Several of his minor details seem to be incorrect. That is, they contradict the way the story is told in a dozen or so traditions that all agree with one another.
For now, I have removed information that is referenced only to Kaviyani Derafsh and replaced it with the way the story is told in the majority of the hadiths. The unusual variations can be reinstated if someone can source them to a real authority and not just a blogger.Petra MacDonald 06:05, 5 September 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petra MacDonald (talk • contribs) I have also moved the reference note hither so that other editors can check it out.
- "Mohammad Ibn Tabari, Ali Dashti, Sahih Bukhari"Derafsh, Kaviyani. "Aisha and Safwan" (PDF). http://derafsh-kaviyani.com. Retrieved November 14, 2012.
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- "Mohammad Ibn Tabari, Ali Dashti, Sahih Bukhari"Derafsh, Kaviyani. "Aisha and Safwan" (PDF). http://derafsh-kaviyani.com. Retrieved November 14, 2012.
Argument about Aisha's age when marriage was consummated
There is much argument on this topic. This arises from an attempt by many readers of judging historical facts in seventh century Arabia through the prism of twenty-first century America. It turns out that even today, consummation of marriage with very young girls is allowed in Arab culture. In September 2013, Reuters reported that an eight year old girl in Yemen died of internal bleeding after having intercourse on her wedding night with her forty year old husband. See
"Child bride in Yemen dies of internal bleeding on wedding night ... SANAA (Reuters) - An eight-year-old Yemeni girl died of internal bleeding on her wedding night after marrying a man five times her age, a social activist and two ... news.yahoo.com/child-bride-yemen-dies-internal-bleeding-wedding... - Cached"
The husband had not violated any Yemeni laws, the report does not say that any legal action was taken against him.
Honestabewiki (talk) 18:14, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Child abuse?
Is Category:Child sexual abuse appropriate for this page? For if a girl had to marry as a six (!) year old and the marriage was consummated when she was nine (!!!), this surely must be a case of child sexual abuse.Pan Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 15:47, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Children?
On a cursory glance the article fails to mention anything about her possible children or pregnancy. IMO it ought to be in the first few paragraphs. --85.76.96.244 (talk) 11:53, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
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