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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 178.222.110.165 (talk) at 19:42, 23 April 2014 (thanks). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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Pumpkin dessert and Kabak tatlisi

I created an article on the Turkish dish (the second link) and then I found that the subject seems to be covered at the Pumpkin dessert article. I think it should be moved to the article title I created (merged perhaps) but I am not an admin so I can't do this. Thanks for any assistance you can provide. ((moved form Userpage where it was posted by accident) Candleabracadabra (talk) 17:36, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No time to look at this till Saturday, sorry, I'm going to be away. JohnCD (talk) 20:38, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Candleabracadabra: are you sure these are the same thing? If so, I suggest I move Pumpkin dessert to your title, leaving a redirect, and then you add your reference to it (and any others you can find - Google shows up quite a few, though mostly in Turkish). JohnCD (talk) 21:45, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that sounds good. If you move it to the title Kabak tatlisi will I still be able to see the edits I made in the history? I mean can it be history merged? Or can we move the article I was working on somewhere first? Not a lot of work went into it, but I'd rather not have to start over. Here's another source. I would merge to his article but then I still can't move it to what I think is the appropriate title. Anyway, I don't really care how it's done other than it would be good to include the source I used (so it's referenced) and I think the title should be what the dish is actually called (with a redirect from pumpkin dessert until that page perhaps becomes a disambiguation if/when other pumpkin desserts are added). Candleabracadabra (talk) 22:06, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Another one that needs sorting out is bastani and Iranian classic saffron ice cream. Again, I can't move stuff over redirects, so I'm not sure how to merge. I suppose I can cut and paste and note the merge in the edit summaries? Is that an appropriate approach? I am open to suggestions. Candleabracadabra (talk) 22:14, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I should note that despite the merge template, I think Bastani is clearly the appropriate title (and was created first). But whatever you think is fine with me. I look forward to happy unions. Candleabracadabra (talk) 22:16, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I will go ahead and merge these. We'll see what happens.. Thanks again for your help. Candleabracadabra (talk) 21:56, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Candleabracadabra: sorry for delay. Rather than do a full merge, because the histories overlap, what I have done is:

So you have access to your short article and can use it to update the main one. Put {{db-u1}} on the "temp" one when you have finished with it.
For advice on merging, see Help:Merging. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 21:39, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, great. That works. And I will read the "how to" page. I appreciate your help. Candleabracadabra (talk) 21:41, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Anatoliy Lesnikov

I'm trying to recover the article on Anatoliy Lesnikov. It's almost finished but I was distracted for too long. Anatoliy Lesnikov is an important Russian cinematographer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_on_the_Moon

Thank you for your consideration

(E Guano (talk) 09:30, 10 April 2014 (UTC))[reply]

@E Guano: it's at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Anatoliy Lesnikov. JohnCD (talk) 09:41, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted sandbox draft

Also you mention "crackpot" theories of "mind control". Are you stating that MkUltra was never a program? There are articles about it on Wikipedia. The very same lawyer who defended Dr. Sidney Gottlieb was the head lawyer on my late father's estate. There was and is nothing "crackpot" about it. That was a libelous statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.0.172.159 (talk) 04:48, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I presume this is about User:Blue Shakti/Sandbox, which I deleted after the discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Blue Shakti/Sandbox. This was never an encyclopedia article, only a user sandbox which was never submitted for review as an article, and was left untouched since early 2011. It was deleted because Wikipedia is not for indefinite storage of material unsuitable for the encyclopedia. The reasons why this is not suitable are explained at WP:No original research, particularly the section WP:SYNTH: "Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources" and WP:RGW.
You are right to come first to me as the administrator who closed the discussion, but I see no reason to change my decision. If you wish to appeal, the right place is WP:Deletion review. If you wish to go there, and would like help in making the entry, leave a note below here giving the reasons why you think it should be undeleted, and I will do the rest.
Please read WP:No legal threats, and note that any threat of legal action may lead to your account or IP being blocked from editing Wikipedia until the legal action is concluded or the threat is withdrawn. Keep the discussion on the article and its contents.
The text is still available on the internet, if you wish to access it, at https://www.facebook.com/PlantTrees/posts/10151701899907025. JohnCD (talk) 17:30, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Wikidata item

Re your inquiry here: I manually deleted the item. Deletions should be manually requested at d:Wikidata:Requests for deletions in the future. Thanks.--Jasper Deng (talk) 00:50, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I created this item by creating item for all page in a category without items. If the page is deleted, Hoo Bot will remove the sitelink, and admins will delete empty items manually. Hoo man will delete all such items semi-automatically once per several months if no admin delete them.--GZWDer (talk) 12:21, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. JohnCD (talk) 21:41, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Rousseau Metal english page

Hi

Just want to follow up on the undeletion process of the Rousseau Metal page in english I see there is some debate here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2014_January_7#Rousseau_Metal But I don't see any further action and nobody wrote to let me know of any decision made (if there is one!)

So what is going on with this? Do I need to add any information, and if so what kind of info would you like to see there?

First request about this page was last summer so I'd like this issue to come to an end one way or another.

Thank you Isabellelf (talk) 15:35, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 21:55, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.159.128.109 (talk) 14:32, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

...and hi to you! JohnCD (talk) 21:55, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pumpie, again.

Hi,

New Railway Station, Thessaloniki and Athens Railway Station should be indef-semi-protected because the sockpuppet constantly target this page. I will update you on other article titles to address later. Thanks. --Marianian(talk) 12:35, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Extra: Since this user has not responded to outstanding issues four years, is this user a candidate for a community siteban? Thoughts appreciated. --Marianian(talk) 13:07, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Marianian: I don't really like indefinite semi-protection, but I see Pumpie got back at these two quite soon after the last 3 month protection expired, so I have given them each a year. Yes, a site ban could be useful, though there are always some people who say it is a waste of time because they are effectively banned already. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:06, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find your message regarding my delete page

Hi,

I'm a novice a wiki articles/website. I put in a request regarding my page "The Reporter and The Girl" that was deleted last month, because it had been some time since I worked on it. I saw that you sent a response, however I was clicking on links and I don't see your response nor the submission I entered. Can you help me?

Best,

ReporterandGirl — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reporterandthegirl (talk • contribs) 00:25, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My reply had got archived - more on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 21:34, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks JohnCD — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reporterandthegirl (talk • contribs) 22:13, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Good Sources Not Enough to Save Article

I was hoping you could help a new editor recover an article on Canadian UNICEF artist T.M. Ananny that was deleted after a few days of it's creation. It seems that there is one editor who does not want to see this article on Wikipedia as it has been deleted before. The article has good sources: Canadian coin commission, book and magazine articles, links to many North American galleries that show the work of the artist, 12 times selected work for UNICEF Christmas cards. I think there is a problem here, hmmm. As well, an "orphan tag" was placed on the article, when I researched on Wikipedia how to make a link to other articles based on similar subject material, I was accused of being a vandal. Help! I just wanted to contribute to Wikipedia and now I feel a little bit unwelcome here. Hope you can make things right!! Gladbot (talk) 00:52, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(User blocked as the latest sock of Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Ananny. JohnCD (talk) 19:14, 23 April 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Please, help to create or repair an Article on Igor Janev

Dear JohnCD, can you, please, help to create or repair an Article on Igor Janev. Or at least create a Stub. I do not know how to do that. please see some useful links. Sincerely yours, User from Macedonia and Serbia. Links: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=next&oldid=603995897 http://www.makemigration.com/ [1] http://www.answers.com/topic/igor-janev http://www.abebooks.co.uk/9788674192610/Diplomatija-8674192610/plp http://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%88%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B2 http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AF%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B2,_%D0%98%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8C http://www.mia.mk/en/Inside/RenderSingleNews/289/105947751 http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/21668/45/ or http://www.makemigration.com/iselenistvoweb/index.php?page=iselenici&id=247&tip_iselenici=7 http://s241910817.onlinehome.us/html/articles/janev/janev.html http://www.mkd.mk/makedonija/politika/nekoj-go-brishe-igor-janev-od-vikipedija http://dobarglas.info/naslovna_v6.htm http://www.makedonskosonce.com/broevis/2008/sonce748.pdf/12_15_janev.pdf http://www.time.mk/c/61e6ad16de/janev-postoi-praven-lek-za-imeto.html http://www.makdenes.org/content/article/1956873.html http://www.mkd.mk/54357/makedonija/se-ceka-na-potpisot-na-ivanov-rezolucija-janev-on [2] LEGAL ASPECTS OF THE USE OF A PROVISIONAL NAME FOR MACEDONIA IN THE UNITED NATIONS SYSTEM [3] citation:[4] http://books.google.rs/books?id=JkgVV0AKW4oC&pg=PA92&lpg=PA92&dq=Igor+Janev&source=bl&ots=Oj3a_969Z_&sig=0RtIFcc3x2YFym3qoPU-JyhJ9dE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=dNikUoqzKaaIzAP1hYCIDQ&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Igor%20Janev&f=false https://www.google.com/search?q=Igor+Janev&btnG=Search+Books&tbm=bks&tbo=1 http://macedonianhr.org.au/wip/images/stories/pdf/1252648063581.pdf http://www.etd.ceu.hu/2009/bajalski_borko.pdf http://sam.gov.tr/on-the-uns-legal-responsibility-for-the-irregular-admission-of-macedonia-to-un/ http://www.sar.org.ro/polsci/?p=264 http://www.makedonskosonce.com/broevis/2008/sonce713.pdf/16_17_janev.pdf http://www.crpm.org.mk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Policy-Brief-NatoMak.pdf http://denesen.mk/web/2013/08/31/janev-postoi-praven-lek-za-imeto/ https://repository.library.georgetown.edu/bitstream/handle/10822/553374/pop-AngelovMarijan.pdf?sequence=1 , p.77-78 http://www.mkd.mk/makedonija/politika/nekoj-go-brishe-igor-janev-od-vikipedija http://osaka.law.miami.edu/~froomkin/articles/ccTLDs-TM.pdf , When we say US, p. 845, note 28. G. Ivanov, "Recalling that the International Court of Justice 1948 advisory opinion had determined that placing additional criteria on United Nations membership contravened the United Nations Charter", http://gadebate.un.org/67/former-yugoslav-republic-macedonia Thomas D. Grant, Admission to the United Nations, Martinus pub. , pp. 203-212 http://books.google.rs/books?id=5Uuv0NLNdZQC&pg=PA322&lpg=PA322&dq=Igor+Janev+Admission+to+the&source=bl&ots=6DgOwcDxtS&sig=4DlZpp7DCtAOeeMqhjvN0QviEl0&hl=sr&sa=X&ei=GERKU9ivOsXOtQaD9oGIDA&ved=0CFkQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=Igor%20Janev%20Admission%20to%20the&f=false http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=sr&q=igor+janev&btnG= https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.news.macedonia/Gh9l8yZjA-Q http://books.google.rs/books?id=0k-9--x9EY4C&pg=PA64&lpg=PA64&dq=Igor+Janev&source=bl&ots=bLD1RW0O6x&sig=SV0Ts24V87pzMIjAJwh1tQDzk-E&hl=en&sa=X&ei=sdakUtvhMaqVyAOGuoGYDA&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Igor%20Janev&f=false http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Igor_Janev

--178.222.110.165 (talk) 14:26, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, I do not want to write this article myself. I see that you have contacted Neotarf (talk) who may help. Another suggestion is to look for assistance from a Macedonian-speaking user here. There is a list at Category:User mk-N, or at Wikipedia:Local Embassy#македонски (mk) I see M4r51n (talk) who is an adminstrator on the Macedonian Wikipedia where his talk page is at mk:Разговор со корисник:M4r51n. Whoever you find to write the article, advise them to read the discussion at User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 160#Is He notable? and the warnings there that an article about Janev should be about Janev, and should not be used as a platform for polemic about the Macedonia naming dispute. JohnCD (talk) 19:11, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
OK, Thanks, best wishes! --178.222.110.165 (talk) 19:42, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review for Pennsylvania Patient Safety Authority

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Pennsylvania Patient Safety Authority. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Pennsylvania Patient Safety Authority 17:05, 23 April 2014 (UTC)MMinetti This message is an appeal of the Wikipedia decision to delete a Wikipedia page describing the Pennsylvania Patient Safety Authority.

Wikipedia explained the reasons why the page was deleted. As such, we would like to work with Wikipedia to resolve the issues through conduct of the following: • removing the Authority logo, • paraphrasing original source material in another fashion and retaining the referenced sources (i.e., not quoted verbatim from external sources), • verifying that the page avoids a promotional tone, as that is not our intent, and • emphasizing the multiple, independent, reliable sources that provide significant coverage.

Wikipedia originally asked me, the page author, to add in a variety of external sources, which were incorporated. In addition, new information (i.e., event report numbers from healthcare facilities in Pennsylvania) will soon be available to be added, further justifying reinstatement of the page.

A few weeks ago, I was trying to ensure my user name, MMinetti, would not display as the page title; rather that “Pennsylvania Patient Safety Authority” would appear. After additional research, I found that my user name would not appear. However, I had previously communicated directly with Wikipedia editors, and we freely discussed their concerns that a formal name change was associated with promotional editing, following which we resolved how to display a title rather than user name. However, the transcript of this process could appear misleading, out of context.

Shortly after the page was live, I was notified of the speedy deletion, and I contested the deletion. I explained with the following text: “The information submitted would be reviewed and edited where Wikipedia is requesting and that the information is good public knowledge information.” Moments later my page was officially deleted.

I freely disclose my affiliation with the Pennsylvania Patient Safety Authority. The Pennsylvania Patient Safety Authority contracts ECRI Institute, the entity that employs me.

Given the above suggested solutions, I can safely assure you that there will be no copyright violation. I respectfully request that you restore the page so we can work to meet Wikipedia standards.

Thank you for your consideration, MMinetti

@Mminetti: the deletion log shows that this page was actually deleted by user RHaworth (talk). All that I deleted was the redirect left behind at your user page after you moved the article away.
We cannot restore copyright material, even temporarily, without a formal copyright release, and in any case material which consists of the organization telling the world about itself is unlikely to make a satisfactory encyclopedia article. Read User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard, the Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide and User:Uncle G/On notability#Writing about subjects close to you. Given your (very properly declared) conflict of interest, you should use the Wikipedia:Articles for creation route, so that your article can be reviewed by an uninvolved user before it is posted. JohnCD (talk) 18:51, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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