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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 68.119.73.36 (talk) at 16:10, 1 August 2014 (→‎US Airways Express terminal information). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Noise lawsuits

There used to be residential neighborhoods right up to the property line, on the north side. After a lawsuit, in (I believe) the 1960s or 1970s, the houses were bought up and the homes razed, forming a noise buffer zone. It looks bizarre to see the remaining streets, sidewalks, trees, and streetlamps with no homes! Maybe it is still that way; I haven't flown out of LAX since 1992, though. Hi

Terminals 4 and 7

I screwed up when editing those two sections. Anything to fix that?

Delta to Dallas

Dallas-Love on LAX should be Dallas-Love Field — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.92.245.217 (talk) 02:43, 15 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dallas-Love is correct. Adding "Field" would be equal to saying Dallas/Fort Worth International, Los Angeles International, etc — Preceding unsigned comment added by RicHicks (talk • contribs) 18:32, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 24 December 2013

Terminal 3 will be the new home of US Airways starting Feb 12, 2014

Ccompton777 (talk) 22:15, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong. US is moving in with AA, which is in T4. HkCaGu (talk) 05:00, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There was a plan at one point for US to move to T3 early in 2014. It looks like they still are, even with the settlement agreement that sees AA/US giving up 2 LAX gets. It looks like AA/US will have one gate at T3, with a date for the move in mid-February 2014 (I haven't seen any source that backs up the specific date give above). I suggest we hold off on changing things until the changes actually happen; with only one gate in T3, I suspect US will split their operation between T3 and T4, or even move into T4 while certain AA flights operate out of the T3 gate. See: [1]. -- Hawaiian717 (talk) 01:36, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hawaiian Airlines to Kahului

Hawaiian Airlines's flight between LA and Kahului will now operate year-round from July 1, 2014. It is listed as a summer seasonal flight. Source: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/hawaiian-airlines-launch-daily-non-200101030.html;_ylt=A2KJ3CXhr81SYHoAURTQtDMD. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 20:09, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done - but current service is still seasonal, so will need moving in July. - Arjayay (talk) 12:23, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delta Hub at LAX

Does Delta's large presence at LAX count as a focus city or hub. Delta does not list Los Angeles as a hub but their large presence with flights to many nonhub destinations would seem to classify it under the broader definition of a hub or focus city. Sum Christianus (talk) 20:37, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unless Delta officially says that LAX is a hub, it should not be considered a hub. It has been discussed that Delta does not have any focus city. See WP:Verify. Rzxz1980 (talk) 06:18, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Qantas JFK "destination"

I am adding "New York-JFK" as a destination, and moving the note from displaying beside "Qantas" to display beside "New York-JFK". There was a hidden note: "QF has no traffic rights from LAX to JFK; do not add it as a destination."

Qantas does not have the cabotage right to transport passengers solely between LAX-JFK. Technically, I think they cannot sell itineraries solely between LAX-JFK as, hypothetically, I don't think they can prevent a passenger booking a JFK-LAX-MEL itinerary and leaving LAX and not catching the LAX-MEL flight. From Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports/page content#Body:

List non-stop and direct flights only. That means the flight number and the aircraft, starts at this airport and continues to one or more airports. Avoid using the description 'via' since that is more correctly listed as another destination. If passengers can not disembark at a stop on a direct flight, then do not list it as a destination or as 'via'. Direct flights are not always non-stop flights. However, avoid listing direct flights that contain a stop at a domestic hub, as virtually all of these are simply flights from one "spoke city" to a hub, with the plane continuing from the hub to a second spoke city. Furthermore, these flights often involve plane changes, despite the direct designation. Including these flights dramatically increases the length of destination listings, artificially inflates the airline's presence at a location and requires constant updating, as these "timetable direct" destinations have little rhyme or reason and may change as often as every week or two.

The flight number and the aircraft that fly SYD-LAX-JFK & JFK-LAX-SYD remain the same. However, passengers aren't prevented from disembarking at LAX. In fact many passengers travel JFK-LAX and then disembark to take another Qantas flight from LAX to Australia (and vice versa). Thus JFK is a certainly a "destination" from LAX, there's just the technicality that Qantas can't sell itineraries that only go between LAX-JFK, which should remain a note. AHeneen (talk) 15:26, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I removed New York-JFK as a destination. I understand that you can book a JFK-LAX-MEL flight online. It works. But, passengers cannot fly JFK-LAX and not continue on to Australia. We only list destinations that people are able to fly to solely. If you have any questions, please feel free to leave a note on my talk page. 24.5.180.207 (talk) 21:15, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Where is that policy? Per the above quoted policy, NY-JFK is a destination as: 1)the same aircraft/flight number is used, 2) passengers can embark/disembark, and 3) it's not a "hub" where the aircraft is often changed and/or there is a (nearly) complete turnover of passengers. NY-JFK is a destination, just with a caveat.AHeneen (talk) 01:59, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's not right that 24.5.180.207 calls your edits vandalism. You explained quite a bit. However, I think the best place to address is WT:AIRPORT. Australians can travel QF LAX-JFK alone for a day as part of a ticket/itin to tour NYC for a few days and see SoCal for a few days, just as Americans can travel UA SYD-MEL alone for a day as part of a ticket from the US. LAX-JFK is purely domestic, however, UA SYD-MEL is "international" and day SYD-MEL travelers are given a pass to avoid screening when passing customs. And beside UA, many other non-Aussie airlines run such domestic segments in Australia. Therefore we don't want to settle on a standard here at LAX. Nevertheless, people aren't going to buy a $2000 ticket US-AU just to fly JFK-LAX which can be done for $200, same for AU-US ticket just to fly MEL-SYD. People may check baggage for such a "destination", but it's not marketed as such. HkCaGu (talk) 05:22, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You cannot fly solely from JFK to LAX or from LAX to JFK. 24.5.180.207 (talk) 03:04, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

For one particular day, yes you can. I just explained that. And if you buy a round trip ticket from NYC, and get off at LAX and not board LAX-Aus, nobody's going to arrest you. It's just a $2000 ticket that won't save you any money versus buying a US carrier domestic ticket. HkCaGu (talk) 04:17, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to book a flight from LAX to JFK on Qantas.com but it would not let me book that route solely. Unless one boards a flight from JFK, stop at LAX, and if one has a long layover between the flight to Australia from LA, then it is possible. But do JFK-bound passengers clear customs at JFK or do they clear customs at LAX? I believe that only if one is part of a tour group visiting California and New York. But if it is for one particular day, I don't think that it is worth listing it as a QF destination from LAX. But the question is, should it be considered a destination from LAX?? 68.119.73.36 (talk) 04:40, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
LAX-JFK is definitely domestic in terms of security/customs/immigration. Aussies can arrive LAX and spend a few days and continuing to JFK. Plenty of posts in FlyerTalk about that. Same for Americans stopping over at SYD for a few days before going to MEL, or vice versa. Foreign carriers in Australia though operate behind customs/immigration. One who travels domestic solely (for that day) gets a document to bypass inspection after getting off the foreign-flown domestic flight. HkCaGu (talk) 04:51, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you but should JFK still be listed as a destination (that is the dispute on this page). You can still fly from JFK to LAX as QF107 but only if one is making connections at LAX to BNE/MEL (QF107 operates JFK-LAX-SYD). I think the footnote should stay as it is but the "Qantas does not have local traffic rights to transport passengers solely between LAX and JFK" should be removed. I believe modifying the footnote was discussed before. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 04:59, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

US Airways Express terminal information

Does anyone know which terminal US Airways Express will be located in when it starts service (part of AA/US cross-fleeting operations)? It is listed to be in Terminal 4 but its mainline ops are in Terminal 3. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 04:11, 31 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Flights operate out of Terminal 4 (Satelitte) as per http://www.latimes.com/travel/deals/la-trb-lax-terminal-usairway-express-20140731-story.html. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 16:10, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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