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I have encountered a problem that has some wrinkles I have not run into before. Over the past few days, User:Fresternoch and I have had some disagreements, mainly regarding the article on the musical composition Nach Bach, but peripherally also George Rochberg, Partita for keyboard No. 4 (Bach), and Partita for keyboard No. 6 (Bach). Together with genuinely constructive edits, this editor has persistently refused to accept reliable sources as evidence, and will not supply sources in rebuttal, insisting instead that he or she "knows what is true". Attempts made on the talk pages of these article to reach agreement have broken down, and certainly this will have to go either to mediation or arbitration (which one is more appropriate?), but there is another issue I am not sure how to deal with. The user page of this editor presents some manifest untruths. He claims to be a rollbacker, reviewer, and autopatroller, all of which are falsified when checked. Less seriously, he claims to me a "master editor" (therefore with more than six years' service and 42,000 edits), insupportable since this editor first registered only on 29 May 2014. It is impossible to verify his claim to have MMus and Phd degrees in music theory, but this entire block of templates (together with several more: global account, majority≠ right, clarinet player, enjoys early music) could have been copied from my own user page, leaving a faint whiff of stalking, but no hard evidence. Other claims made by this user are also dubious, especially one of level-5 English, displayed alongside grammatically tainted statements such as "Another of my favorite hobby is composing" and "I like music from Middle Ages to Early-20th century". What action, if any, is appropriate in such a case?—Jerome Kohl (talk) 00:39, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I had also encountered a problem with the user who had mentioned me above. OK, User:Jerome Kohl, at first I want to tell you that I did not copy anything from your user page. Your user page does not have any sports listed, and we spoke different languages and came from different countries. I would suggest mediation other than arbitration. And as for the grammatical problems you had mentioned, I wrote my user page when I was tired from all the things I did in the morning and I didn't check the grammar or punctuation. I didn't claim that I was a Master Editor specifically to you, it came to my mind because the name just sounds cool, and I am not trying to cheat or copy. User:Jerome Kohl refuses to admit that he is trying to find any evidence to prove that I am a cheater, and he amplified the effect by listing all this personal information such as the Master Editor issue on a public talk page instead on my personal talk page. I am a clarinet player and drummer as I use to do it in my school band. As for the article issue, it is User:Jerome Kohl who started all this complex issue since I created the page Nach Bach (Rochberg), Partita for keyboard No. 4 (Bach), and Partita for keyboard No. 6 (Bach), and history will do the prove. He did expanded the Nach Bach composition's background information, analysis of the work and reliable references, but he also refuses to stop amplifying the effect about disrespecting just because he is on Wikipedia longer than me, being a "Master Editor", and one of the "1000 most active Wikipedians". What actions are appropriate to stop this user to discontinue his disrespect for other users just because he "thinks everything he knows everything"?—Fresternoch (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 01:23, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I rest my case.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 02:24, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm of the opinion that userpage copying is harmless; and it's clear Fresternoch, that your userpage is based on Jerome Kohl's, so let's drop the pretense. The badges and such are also things that nobody really cares about (the claiming to be autopatrolled, rollbacker, etc. is not good though, and I've removed those boxes). That part of the dispute is simple. The rest, not as much. I'm going to have to see diffs establishing a pattern before I want to comment on whether Fresternoch's conduct merits administrative action. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 02:33, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Mendaliv. Fresternoch suddenly went silent some days ago. My guess is his mom found out what he had been up to and took away his computer privileges.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 03:35, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pope John Paul II 2005 miniseries

Part 1's first paragraph needs references to his celebration of Nowa Huta's first ever Mass, e.g. the sentence about his appointment as Krakow's auxillary bishop should say "In 1959, he ends the decade by celebrating Nowa Huta's first ever Mass on Christmas Eve, followed by an early 1960s religious procession of the Black Madonna of Czestochowa's empty picture frame through Krakow during a time of Communist restrictions against displays of religious images". Part 2's first paragraph needs "December" and "1985" deleted from its references to his appointment of the Holy See Press Office's new director and formation of World Youth Day, as they were both done by him in 1984. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.62.104.173 (talkcontribs)

The person who is making this request has been working on the article Pope John Paul II (TV miniseries) obsessively for at least two years, using several IP addresses from Michigan in the general Grand Rapids metro area, and probably the user account Examplar. Altogether he's made about 1,390 edits to that article, 89.4% of all edits by quantity.[1] In May 2014, I removed a bunch of his plot development which violated the 700-word limit as recommended at WP:FILMPLOT, and I informed him about the FILMPLOT limit, but he kept adding to the plot in subsequent edits. Accordingly, I kept removing the excess plot detail.
I'm sure this Michigan guy is frustrated by my insistence at keeping the plot section within limits, and I'm sure his frustration brought him here so that he could get someone else to make changes to article without having me revert them.
Frankly, the continual push to expand the plot section is not helping the article, which should be about the production, release and reception of the miniseries itself rather than being a brief synopsis of the life of Pope John Paul II. Wikipedia already has such an article! Binksternet (talk) 19:44, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Lister Hospital Chelsea

Hello, I propose redirecting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lister_Hospital_(Chelsea) to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lister_Institute_of_Preventive_Medicine

as it seems to me that the first article adds no value and the history of the institution is covered adequately in the second article (in section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lister_Institute_of_Preventive_Medicine#Chelsea).

Would someone like to review/validate this action?

Thanks!

Clivemacd (talk) 19:38, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a reference to Cantor-Bernstein-Schroeder Theorem.

Dear Editor,

I have tried to add a reference to the said site but got a template warning. Could you help?

The reference is to my book: "Proofs of the Cantor-Bernstein Theorem. AMathematical Excursion" by Arie Hinkis, Springer Basel 2013. http://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-0348-0224-6/page/1

Thank youu for your assistance.

Arie Hinkis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arikis (talkcontribs) 14:05, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Could you give more information? What exactly was the template warning ? And a link to the page? Grognard 123chess456 (talk) 15:02, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Belfield

Alex Belfield (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Nearly all the sources cited in this BLP are to "Celebrity Radio", a website run by the subject of the article. I am not saying he is not notable, but as it stands the article appears to be written by its subject without independent sources. -- Alarics (talk) 06:25, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Even better, it seems like some of those references don't even fully support the text they're attached to. For instance, the sentence In 1999, he was offered a six-month contract working Nairobi, Kenya presenting 'Belfield at Breakfast' at 98.4 Capital FM. is supported by this reference: [2] It says absolutely nothing about 1999 or a six-month contract. As to this reference, it should be removed and replaced with references to the individual news clippings on that page. At least one of these links is dead. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 06:44, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

New Editor

I would like to become an active editor for Wikipedia, but find myself a bit overwhelmed.

For example, on the Wikipedia page for capital punishment in California -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_California -- there is a broken link regarding the phrase "This report, by Arthur Alarcon, long-time judge of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeal, and law professor Paula Mitchell, concluded that "since reinstating the death penalty in 1978, California taxpayers have spent roughly $4 billion to fund a dysfunctional death penalty system that has carried out no more than 13 executions."

How would I flag that link or correct it?

Thank you,

Douglas Issyvoo (talk) 00:42, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's an inline link, which isn't the preferred means of citation. And of course it's also a rotted link. What you can do is find the report elsewhere (googling the quotation might help) and replace the link (preferably in a footnote reference, as is standard; see Help:Referencing for beginners for an introduction on how to do this). —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 01:33, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Card Factory Wikipedia page

Hello,

I was wondering if someone could update the Card Factory plc Wikipedia page with more recent financial results and employee numbers - at the moment they are from 2009/ 2011.

For the fact box: Revenue £327 million (2014) Employees 6,500 (+6,000 seasonal) Website http://www.cardfactory.eu.com/ www.gettingpersonal.co.uk

They have also raised more money for charity than stated - Card Factory has raised over £2.8 million for Macmillan Cancer Support. - http://www.cardfactory.eu.com/ - under About Us tab

Thanks v.much, Naomi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ncslanemhp (talkcontribs) 14:12, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK done. While the company website is OK (though not ideal) for employee numbers and revenues, we would prefer a news story for the charity numbers, but I suppose the website will do for now. Herostratus (talk) 03:57, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gene keady basketball coach

Omitted US Olympic basketball Please add to Wikipedia Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kpetrie (talkcontribs) 05:10, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gene Keady is already an article, and it mentions his coaching at the Olympics. I'm not sure what else there is to do here. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 18:56, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Evans politician

The jack Evans page is unduly negative. Most of the content should be deleted. Much of it comes from will sommer at city paper who has written any unfavorable articles. How can I get help fixing this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evansjack1 (talkcontribs) 15:39, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The poster, who appears to be the subject, has been blocked for edit warring and does not appreciate truth vs verifiability; but also is not wholly off base on the substantive issue. Discussion has begun on the article talk page. JohnInDC (talk) 17:13, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thread also open at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Jack Evans (D.C. politician).--ukexpat (talk) 17:41, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Difficulties in including a new article.

I have been looking to include a new article about Sun Yat Sen Lodge. I try to create the page using my personal user name 'Arnaldo Goncalves' but I receive some odd alerts about blocking contents. I never receive any alert about this and cannot remember any action though which I vanadalize others materials. I am absolutely neutral on those issues. Can you please look what is going on? Thanks in advance. Regards. Arnaldo Goncalves — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arnaldo goncalves (talkcontribs) 08:04, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No assertion was made that you'd committed vandalism; but the article as you wrote it was pretty clearly a copy of existing web content, and thus constituted a copyright violation. It has been deleted, as we cannot host copyright violations here. --Orange Mike | Talk 04:33, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

uncivility from admins

Hello. I am having trouble with multiple admins insulting me. I read the civility page and thought there would be a form there to request help but there isnt. Is this the proper place to report admins being callus and disrespectful and rude? 68.50.21.190 (talk) 04:12, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Checkuser evidence shows that unblock requests from this IP are being made while he or she evades their block with other accounts. The block was extended, and an admin (not myself) removed their access to editing their own talk page. I would guess that this is what they are terming "being callus and disrespectful and rude". --Orange Mike | Talk 04:39, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am still waiting to see this checkuser evidence. I am not blocked and am not editing any other way. The terms I used are correct. It is okay to attack my english repeatedly? 68.50.21.190 (talk) 12:26, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Checkuser information is highly confidential, accessible to only a few trusted users, see Wikipedia:CheckUser. Яehevkor 12:29, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep in mind that "callous" and "callus" have different meanings. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 13:08, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Orange mike, no. The callousness and disrespect were repeat comments (attack) of edit in your own language, an equivalent of saying f ck you.
Hello. Rehevkor. I am accused an am told their is proof. I am not allowed to see it ? Confidentiality doesnt extend to me the subject of the investigation?
Mendaliv when frustrated I am liable to misuse they're their there ;too to; band banned; knead need and any many other words interchangeably. I was so disgusted by the abuse and callousness that a callus grew. Lastly were the comment written to me reviewed? Those are civil and not a personal attack? To say my English is poor and I should edit in my native language is allowed(not aloud) ? 68.50.21.190 (talk) 15:26, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Warned of Post that I did not do

I was warned of a post about Mansfield, AR. I have made no such post. This must be some sort of spam via my account? Haven't logged into it in a long time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:184.156.199.103&oldid=592850138&diff=cur — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lerret (talkcontribs) 18:38, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The warning was made to your IP address, not your account. Users' IP addresses can change from time to time, and so you may receive warnings intended for someone else when you are logged out. The warning to the IP does not reflect on your account or your person. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 18:54, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Deletion Push for Wikipedia 'Vivation' entry.

Vivation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

It came to my attention last night that an article I originally authored vivation was being proposed for deletion. After a very long engagement, with requests for inline citations and secondary sources, these have all been provided. All criteria has been met as requested. Yet, the push for deletion continues to get escalated, with the editors showing no signs of cooperation, helpfulness or compromise. At the end of this afternoon, it appeared that all criteria were met and this issue would finally be put to rest. However, User:Orangemike has now escalated the conflict by now referring to this self-applied breathing and relaxation technique as a "cult". It should be noted, that the entry contains as neutral language as possible, with my full cooperation and support to make it ever more so from the editorial community. Yet all of this has been summarily ignored, with standards and libelous comments continuing to escalate. Playanaut (talk) 01:46, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vivation and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jim Leonard (Vivation). —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 02:22, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

page about paris opera ballet choreographer samuel murez

I added and worked on a page for paris opera ballet choreographer samuel murez today. I got feedback that my notability sourcing wasn't good enough, and I tried to fix it as indicated on the topic's talk page. Could an experienced editor have a look, and either remove the tag questioning the notability, or offer some further feedback about what's missing ? many thanks Vwysihngber (talk) 21:23, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]