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Opinions re starting new page on Overseas Contingency Operations

This very important bureaucratic term, that the article nicely worked out as having replaced the term war on terror, seems to get short shrift on the page. In fact, there is nothing but etymology on it. I have to agree with Darmech above, that the page seems one sided.

I have been contemplating since February to start a new page on Overseas Contingency Operations (OCO), which currently redirects to this page. Since nothing on OCO has been added to this article in 4 months I feel it is time to start one. Opinions?--Wuerzele (talk) 14:41, 29 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Israel–Palestine situation

Perhaps, under "Other military operations", the fighting between Israelis and Hamas should be added. JC · Talk · Contributions 03:00, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That conflict appears to be outside of the scope of this article, which is an article about a U.S.-led international campaign. While they are related, they are not one in the same.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:04, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Final Phase of War section

Given how he War on Terror never officially ended, and recent events in the Middle East have simply highlighted that fact, are the "Final Phase of War" and "Revival Phase of War" section really appropriate? That is not to say much of the info on possible scenarios regarding a future end to the war, as well as recent info on the rise of the Islamic State, shouldn't be included in the article, because they absolutely should be. But to suggest that the War on Terror ever truly ended and is simply "revived" with such titles for sections would be inaccurate. Feel free to discuss here what sections the necessary info included in the sections be moved, so that this article's section could be fixed. --24.177.242.201 (talk) 03:07, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The weapons of mass destruction intelligence

This section is given multiple paragraphs about a subject that is a sub-subject of the 2003 Invasion of Iraq article, while the intelligence issues leading up to the invasion are notable, I am of the opinion that they are given undue weight here, and should be trimmed down to a single paragraph under the Operation Iraqi Freedom sub-sub-section.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:21, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Without any objections, I am deleting this content, per WP:DUPLICATE & WP:UNDUE.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:00, 13 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ISIL conflict

Given the differing talking points by the Obama Administration, should this content be included in this article? At the same time a non-American source does state that it is part of the War on Terror. I ask this because, there are several pending changes regarding this subject. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:55, 13 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The intervention in Iraq and Syria against ISIL and Al-Nusrah should have its own section in this article. --Downthewikiwormhole (talk) 22:42, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why did Ohconfucius change everything from MDY and YMD to DMY two-and-a-half years ago?

Changed here - The United States is the most involved English-speaking country by far, and most certainly will 'never' refer to the "11 September attacks" in that form, and the majority in-text usage was already mdy. I have already seen this user doing the same thing to other articles more recently (changing mdy and ymd to dmy automatically using scripts), and I seriously do not see how this is justified. Also, date format for the |date= parameter is (or can be) independent from the |accessdate= parameter. It's probably way too late to change anything now (so I won't argue for that), but I'd like to see the justification for that change at least. Dustin (talk) 23:37, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This article is seen as a campaign article of primarily the United States Military, and NATO. Therefore both us DMY dating format it was likely changed, and per WP:STRONGNAT, this is what is used.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:26, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

War on Terror ended?

I'm pretty sure the "War on Terror" is either ended or isn't called that way any more. The War on Terror was a campaign since 2011 by the Bush administration, and Obama finished that campaign. He is also reluctant to start any new foreign involvement by US military as of 2014. I think the end date for "War on Terror" should be December 2011, any other opinions?GreyShark (dibra) 15:20, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The preferred wording by the present administraton is noted in the article, "Overseas Contingency Operations". As this article is about a campaign, and the awarding date for the campaign medal associated with the subject of the article has not been closed, we can safely say that the campaign hasn't ended, and that the campaign (by any name one wants to use) isn't over.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 22:06, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Separate out jihadist camps in infobox?

Since the conflicts between the United States & its allies against the Sunni Al-Qaeda-type jihadist bloc and predominantly Shia Hezbollah-type jihadist bloc are distinct, should the infobox be separated out?