User talk:RHaworth/2015 Jan 26

Ten Years

On 2015 Jan 1, I joined the Wikipedia Ten Year Society.
Will I make it for another ten?

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Deleted Draft

Hi it looks like you deleted Draft:Bartley J. Madden last night. Can you please explain in more detail? I'm not sure what I did wrong. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kallgaeuer (talk • contribs) 16:31, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

• Unambiguous copyright violation from here and here. Also read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:53, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Aa Te Kevi Dunniya

Aa Te Kevi Dunniya. RH, as you can see from the deleted article, I was in the process of rescuing it from speedy deletion. It has got some press. (And for talk-page stalkers, here's a frank admission of my POV: if I could, I would delete every new article about Bollywood, Tollywood, Mollywood and - my new word for the day! - Dhollywood films. Not to my taste.) What do you think? --Shirt58 (talk) 09:59, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

• The first thing you should have done was move the article to a non-shouted title. I tend to treat any shouting as vandalism. Restored to User:Shirt58/Aa Te Kevi Dunniya. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:12, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

The Space Arts

Hello there! Please can you help me understand the reasoning behind your speedy deletion of The Space Arts page? We would like to be reinstated ASAP. Thank you! Anna — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnnaEleriHart (talk • contribs) 10:25, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

• That "we" says it all - kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your website is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:12, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Roger, thank you for clarifying. Does that mean your original reason (clause A7) no longer stands? From reading the Wiki COI page thoroughly, could you let me know how to best disclose my interest (I am a freelance consultant for The Space)? As The Space is an arm of the BBC and The Arts Council here in the UK, we were hoping to use Wikipedia as a reference. We are a community interest company rather than a commercial organisation. Once this is rectified can I also ask that this highlighting of myself as an editor is removed from your page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnnaEleriHart (talk • contribs) 17:43, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

• Oh dear, someone else who prefers meaningless codes to words - see Altiscale above. Why on earth should {{db-web}} no longer apply? There was absolutely no attempt to provide evidence of notability. I still think that you should not be writing the article but if you really insist, submit via articles for creation and declare your COI clearly on the draft_talk: page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:34, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Roger. I have found your tone very aggressive which was uncalled for. I will be contacting Wikipedia to let them know about this. I made an innocent mistake and you have been extremely intimidating, rather than helpful (which is what Wikipedia asks of an editor). — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnnaEleriHart (talk • contribs) 08:41, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Draft:STORK 2.0

Hi! Thanks for your work on Wikipedia! My first discussion here. I see you deleted Draft:STORK_2.0 because of the G11 clause. I did not get the chance to contest this speedy deletion as I was away on holidays with few Internet access. May I contest it now, or at least get the text back so I can rewrite it? Thank you! Daniel Quer (talk) 10:58, 8 January 2015 (UTC)dquer

• Text emailed. A new version should be about a fifth the size of what you created. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:12, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Anjolique

Hello kind sir. I noticed that you recently deleted a wiki page Anjolique. I was wondering what would be required for the page to be qualified to be reinstated by you? Anjolique is one of the first music artists to release a 1st time single and a mobile app simultaneously. https://play.google.com/store/search?q=Anjolique Is there anything we can do on our end to provide you with more satisfactory information? I look forward to your response and I respect your decisions. Regards, Charles Rubin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlesrubin75 (talk • contribs) 13:33, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

• So who are "we"? Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks this woman is notable and writes about her here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:34, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

The Royal Hamilton Amateur Dinghy Club

Hi, I saw that you had deleted my Draft:The Royal Hamilton Amateur Dinghy Club. I get it, I really do, and fully understand the rationale although I am stumped as to what to do next. Through the various iterations of the draft, I had pulled as many verifiable sources as i could (not easy given out of print books, newspapers articles form the 1800's etc) and felt that it was a) notable and b) cross referenced with other sources. I am also the current Vice Commodore of RHADC, elected by the members, having been both Chairman and Rear Commodore and will be the next Commodore. Effectively, I "own", with my colleagues all of the content on the Club website which as you correctly pointed out, I plagiarized for the Wikipedia entry.

A prior reviewer had me source references which I did, and another had me re-write the content. I can re-write again, but it seems daft to do that - it would still be the same content - from the same source and ultimately pulled from hard copy resources in the Clubhouse. I invite you to Bermuda to come and look at the documents! Not sure what else to do here. Any advice, gratefully received. Best wishes, Neil Redburn NeilRedburn (talk) 23:44, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

• You admitted back in August that there are no reliable sources. So why do you persist in trying to force an article in? What to do next? The answer is simple: do nothing. Simply wait until a) the club becomes notable and b) someone with no COI writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:12, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Czech out these movies

Hi Haworth, could you explain me, why did you delete this page: an ambiguous report about the end of the world. I am owner of the text and I do everythink what is necessary. I put to the talk section OTRS mark, I wrote that I send mail at Wikipedia and inform about it to the page discussion. So I really don't understand why did you do it. Thank you for answer. Yarrrick (talk) 12:42, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

It's Better to Be Wealthy and Healthy Than Poor and Ill. Same problem as above ... Yarrrick (talk) 12:47, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

• Please learn to create wikilinks. The copyvio situation could be fixed but what is the point of restoring these pages if they are going to be deleted anyway for lack of notability? If you can provide sound independent references, resubmit via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:59, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't understand, why the articles does not have a lack of notability. Both film are filmed by international known director (Felliny of the East). An ambiguous report about the end of the world was screened at more than 60 international film festivals and won prestigous awards (Montreal, San Diego, Taos ect.). Of course I wanted to continue in editing articles. Unfortunately they were deleted after couple of hours. I am a little bit surprise by these behavior. I thought wikipedia is encyclopedia and not VIP club :) What do you think by "provide sound independent references" ? I am new at wiki so I dont understand what do you mean. — Yarrrick (talk) 16:05, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

• Perhaps links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources will give you a clue. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:58, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

The Knowledge Centre for Agriculture Deletion

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Darent

River Darent I am trying to make this entry as accurate as possible. In providing what I believe to be the correct derivation of the name I used a reference to an Irish (Gaeilge) published by M.H.Gill in 1959 in Dublin. It was not my intention to produce a new and original article on the subject. During the work which is ongoing, and unless you continue to interfere, WILL be on-going I inadvertantly made the phrase (M.H.Gill) into a wikilink. After saving and SEEING it in blue I decided to check, discovered there was no link, but was invited by the code to produce one. because I am far too busy to be chasing butterflies I entered a couple of salient facts about M.H.Gill with the intention of returning to do the the job properly at a future date.

While I may be a little unconventional in my methodology, it is my main intent in life to ensure the truth is always told, most particularly on the internet, and irrespective of how I arrive at a result I have no problem in having a mentor, who will pick up the flotsam, or 'pull me up' and suggest a better way of doing things.

In the case of the River Darent, some previous subscriber had given a wrong explanation of the origin of the name. (I must now confess that my native language is Irish, English being acquired later.) Having researched the possibilities using an actual copy of Bartholomews Gazetteer (1951)i realise that the previous contributor had used the internet as a primary source and in particular had used an internet published appendix of the 1901 Gazetteer to arrive at an erroneous conclusion: a. that Darent and Darenth are the same word which they patently are NOT and b. obviously did not not check the primary source for the entries "Darent" and/or Darenth. This is the same sloppy research which has the Irish greet each other (and strangers) with "May the road rise to meet you".

And if that sounds like a grumpy old man, it's because I am ... However, I would love to here from you. Yours in letters etc. Seán de Bhál (Shaun Wall) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southockendon (talk • contribs) 18:58, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

• Provisional reply. Note the difference between here and hear. Why not come to Penderell's Oak on Sunday and I can explain face to face but if you don't make it, I will give you a proper reply tomorrow. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:56, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

• If you waffle at me I will waffle back. I once drove my car into the ford at Eynesford and got stuck. I was surprised to discover recently the rivers Eden and Darent start very close to each other, virtually in the same field behind Clacket Lane services.

Surely you mean that you had created a red link? I beseech you to think it possible that you may be mistaken if you think the title you created was optimum. You created M.H.Gill&Son Ltd. Dublin - this had a significant lack of spaces and the word Dublin was redundant. If you had bothered to do a bit of searching you would have found Gill & Macmillan and I suggest that if you have anything more to say about M. H. Gill & Son it should be added to that article. Note that creating redirects can be useful. I have restored your stub - check your contribs history.

On the other hand, if after diligent searching you cannot find any article on a certain subject, then it is foolhardy to leave an unreferenced stub in mainspace for more that five minutes. Start your article in a user sandbox. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:02, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

About the Hindi name of Dhalsim

Hi, I'm a new user in English Wiki. I want to ask you about how do you know that the Hindi name of Dhalsim is "धल्सिम"? Can you give me some source? The reason why I'm ask you is I edited "धल्सिम" in Japanese Wiki for Dhalsim, but someone undid my edit ([1]). That's why I need a source to prove my viewpoint is right. I Hope you can help me and thank you very much. Nächsten erbe (talk) 01:57, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

• I have absolutely no idea and I wonder why you are asking me. I cannot immediately find a group of Hindi-speaking Wikipedians. But try asking your question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject India. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:02, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Ballet Pixelle (part II)

Thank you for your help and understanding. There are now numerous wikilinks and significant references. User:Calia42/sandbox is now at a place where other editors are starting to find it and edit it. Is this ok to publish? And, I have looked for help, but how do I publish (using "move")? Thank you. Calia42 (talk) 04:25, 11 January 2015 (UTC) (contribs) 04:08, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

• Correct. You publish by moving it to Ballet Pixelle rather than your cack-handed attempt at a move. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:02, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you.Calia42 (talk) 06:10, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Request for content of deleted article

Hi Roger, Congrats on a decade on Wikipedia! I am looking at a few articles and was wondering if you could help with the contents of a deleted page at Tyler Lim. You mentioned being able to retrieve deleted content on your talk page, would this be one of those? Thanks! Pieters3933 (talk) 08:51, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

• I have emailed you a state of the article and a diff report of some negative comments added by Nbishonen (talk · contribs). Although the negative comments were reverted by I dream of horses (talk · contribs) I would give them some credence. See this message. Note that Pacohchen (talk · contribs), the author of the article blanked it which we took as a request to delete and that the official website link does not work. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:31, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
• See also this from Melbourne. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:39, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Remove protection

Hi, Can you please remove the creation protection from the page Tahsan? I will move the page Tahsan Rahman Khan to Tahsan as he is mostly known by this name. Thanks in advance. - Rahat (Talk * Contributions) 15:18, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

And also remove the protection from Mehazabien Chowdhury. I will move the Mehazabien page to Mehazabien Chowdhury. - Rahat (Talk * Contributions) 15:23, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

• I am a bit dubious about the notability of Mehazabien but I have moved both. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:36, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. -Rahat (Talk * Contributions) 04:09, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Babar Javed - Director & Producer

Hello RHaworth,

You deleted this article; Saqib mosin recreated it literally moments after you deleted the old one and with the exact same advertorial content. May need salting. Thanks, --ceradon (talk • contribs) 10:44, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Or perhaps just move it to their userspace as a draft? --ceradon (talk • contribs) 10:46, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Confuosion

You are not a true representation of what this site was intended for. How can I get you removed as Admin?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kosta matt (talk • contribs) 15:06, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

• Your page was, quite rightly, deleted with fire. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:39, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Peacelink page deleted

Hi, with regards to the page PeaceLinkLive which was deleted under speedy deletion. I have re-created the page here User:VA1979/Peacelink with a few changes. Kindly review and also note that most of the material that matches the linked pages are celebrity names and statements made to describe the movement which are similar on all PR websites and the official website also. I think this may not be a violation. If you disagree please help me understand why exactly this page should remain deleted and how I can bring it back again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VA1979 (talk • contribs) 19:59, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

• Reviewed and moved to Draft:Peacelink Live!. Sit back and wait to see what a draft reviewer thinks of it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:39, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Electro page deletion.

Hello, I understand that my page has been deteted. All i want is for you to put my page back or, send me a backup of my page to <redacted>. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Electro (Music Producer) (talk • contribs) 05:04, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

• Emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:39, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Barbra Jordan School Of Public Affairs

Hello. Barbara Jordan School Of Public affair was deleted a while ago. I'm a Graduate Assistant for the department of public affairs and i was assigned to design a wiki-page for the school. Contents that were presumed copied from the webpage school of affairs are contents for the school. It was later i read that there were terms and conditions to fulfill. I made that known to the school, and materials as been provided to continue with the page. Would wait for your response as soon as possible. Thanks