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What happened to him during the war? What did he do from 1945 to 1972? Lestrade (talk) 16:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)Lestrade[reply]

Wikipedia editors often have trouble with the truth. If he was declared honorary aryan, then he was Jewish. Just as Field Marshall Erhard Milch was jewish. Its not that difficult to find out if someone like Maurice was jewish, but it poses uncomfortable questions, so wikipedia prefers just to speculate, indicating they don't know. They don't want to know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.55.222.110 (talk) 23:35, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In fact maurice grandfather was jewish and maurice himself declared ehrenarier honorary aryan.--85.180.42.103 07:16, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

SS General

Every source on Emil Maurice states clearly he was a General in the SS. His rank of Oberfuhrer was in the Allgemeine-SS where, even during World War II, Oberfuhrers were permitted to wear the heavy silver cords and great coats of general officers. This was different from the Waffen-SS where, yes, it was considered a senior colonel position. The key point here is that the Allgemeine and the Waffen-SS were almost too completely separate and distinct service branches with different promotion criteria and different senority systems. -OberRanks (talk) 22:43, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree that it was considered a general rank during the early years of the SS. And that he wore shoulder boards and lapels of a general officer. However, as sources state of the rank itself throughout the SS in later years (around 1939, forward): Oberführer had no military equivalent and quickly became regarded as a senior colonel rank even in the Allgemeine-SS. Yerger (1997) p. 235. This distinction continues today in historical circles with most texts referring to Oberführer as a senior colonel rank. Yerger (1997) p. 235; Miller (2006) p. 521; Flaherty (2004) p. 148. It is also stated as such in the Wikipedia article on SS ranks: [1]. Now, it is true that in relation to some other western armies the rank is said to have had a military equivalent to a British Army brigadier-general. McNab (2009) p. 186.
Bibliography:
  • Yerger, Mark C. (1997). Allgemeine-SS: The Commands, Units and Leaders of the General SS. Schiffer Publishing Ltd. ISBN 0-7643-0145-4. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Miller, Michael (2006). Leaders of the SS and German Police, Vol. 1. R. James Bender Publishing. ISBN 9-32970-037-3. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Flaherty, T. H. (2004) [1988]. The Third Reich: The SS. Time-Life Books, Inc. ISBN 1 84447 073 3. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • McNab, Chris (2009). The SS: 1923–1945. Amber Books Ltd. ISBN 1906626499. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

Kierzek (talk) 15:36, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation

What is the correct German pronunciation of Emil Maurice?82.36.88.163 (talk) 22:17, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

First name is pronounced German ("Ay-meel"), last name is pronounced French (Maw-reese). It's not that atypical a combination in Germany (see for instance Oskar Lafontaine), mainly due to Huguenot immigration to Prussia during the 1700s (see Huguenot#Germany_and_Scandinavia and Edict of Potsdam). --87.180.222.141 (talk) 22:14, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]