Talk:Romanians in Bulgaria

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Complete mess

Gosh, we have a complete mess here! First, there are practically no Romanians in northwestern Bulgaria: there are speakers of "Vlach" (Romanian dialect of some kind) who self-identify as Bulgarians, respect that.

The census data you provided is totally confusing: it implies that only Vlachs in northwestern Bulgaria are counted, when in fact it includes many other parts of the country. Specifically according to 2001 census data, there are 16 Romanians and 155 Vlachs in Vidin Province, as well as 6 Romanians and 34 Vlachs in Vratsa Province, 14 Romanians and 252 Vlachs in Pleven Province, no Romanians and 19 Vlachs in Montana Province, etc.

I've already explained a thousand times that "Vlachs" and Romanians are for the most part Vlach Roma. Or do you really believe there are 3,620 ethnic Vlachs in Varna Province, 1,066 in Veliko Tarnovo and 1,137 in Shumen? The same goes for the 440 "Romanians" in Varna.

What I propose is: redirect to and expand Timok Vlachs, which covers the real Vlach group of Serbia and Bulgaria, thus erasing any mention of the fabricated and non-existent ethnic "Romanian minority in Bulgaria" and the total confusion between Vlach speakers of northwestern Bulgaria and Romanian Roma which reigns in the article.

I mean, if you'd like to write an article about Romanian(-speaking) Roma, go for it, but don't fabricate minorities and don't imply Bulgarianization in cases that you don't (or refuse to) understand.

I have no desire to discuss with sockpuppets, so no Bonnies here, OK? Todor →Bozhinov 10:16, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot decipher what to make of entries like "1905: 89,847 (79,910 Romanians)". So what are the other 10,000 or so? - Jmabel | Talk 03:06, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

89,847 Romanian speakers, of which 79,910 Romanian ethnics bogdan 08:34, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]