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Where are the Gypsies in India?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNUYGRn3W9Q — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.145.105.85 (talk) 01:13, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Very Big Issue with the Romani Name [Disputed Neutrality]

There is a very big issue with the Romani name. The name discriminates the people from Romania.

There are 28 millions of Romanians who call themselves Romani for Centuries. In Romanian language, the Romanians call themselves Români, which is nowadays mostly written in mass-media and on Internet without the diacritic, as Romani.

Why is wikipedia not using the name Romani to name the Romanians? There are 28 million Romanians in the world - compare that with 2 million or maximum 12 million of Gypsies. Why are Gypsies allowed to take over the name of other nations?

This name of Romani was not used as replacement for Gypsies before 1990, or it was barely used.

Check Merriam-Webster Dictionary http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/romani - they redirect to Romany and point to Rom.

Check Oxford Dictionary http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/Romany?q=romani, it redirects to Romany and point to Rom.

Why is wikipedia misleading the whole world - and by doing this is discriminating Romanians?

Because of this new name given to the Gypsies, Romanians are now considered by a majority of population in UK and France as being Gypsies. This has to stop.

The Romani people page needs to point first to a disambiguation page, what is now at the page Romani section --Nationalities--

  • The Latin term for the ancient Romans, see Roman citizenship
  • The Italian term for inhabitants of Rome
  • The Romanian term for Romanians (citizens of Romania), officially written with diacritic â (an upper arrow on top of a) as Români, but many times written just as Romani, without diacritics. Because of these name similarities, many Romanians are discriminated in Western Europe, mistakenly being considered part of the Roma People.

The Romani name needs to be used only for the nationalities above, as it was used for Centuries, and not for renaming Gypsy people. Gypsy people can be renamed to any other name (like Rrom), but not the names that are already taken. - Sicama (talk) 22:55, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but for the purposes of this encyclopedia, it doesn't matter how the word "needs to be" be used, only how it is used. And worldwide, it is generally used for the people you call Gypsies.
The Oxford Dictionary definition you bring up (Romany) says "also Romani" right there, below it. --Ashenai (talk) 23:02, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
regarding what you wrote: "it doesn't matter how the word "needs to be" be used, only how it is used". - I can tell you 99% of the population calls Gypsies with the word Gypsy. This is how it is used. The fact that Gypsies call the male as Rom in their language, this has nothing to do with the name of the people. This is because the English people do not call themselves Man as nation and the Spanish people do not call themselves as Hombre as nation. And Gypsy is more used than Rom or Roma or Romany or any other new name under which Gypsies want to reside, as the older name was tarnished by some of the Gypsies behavior (you know, some of the Gypsies teach their kids how to steal, how to beg and how to stay in other people houses). They are originally Indian people, why they don't call themselves Indian, but this is another story. Other people call them mainly Gypsy, not Roma, not Romany. This is their main name --Sicama (talk) 00:12, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, alright. As far as I know, the "accepted" name for them is Romani, and Gypsy is a slur. But, I'm not an expert on the subject. I live in Hungary, where the official name for them is "Roma", and "cigány" is sort of a slur, the equivalent of Gypsy. Based on that, and the fact that their organizations appear to have the word "Romani" in them, I would assume that Romani is their official name.
But, like I said, I'm not really an expert. Either way, you're going to need to come up with some reliable sources for your claim that they are properly called Gypsies. I would be very surprised if that turned out to be the case, but I've been wrong before... any sources you can show us? --Ashenai (talk) 00:26, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A non-issue unworthy of discussion. The vast majority of the recent news sources referenced in this very wikipedia article use the term Roma or Romani. Few if any English-language news sources use the word Romani to refer to Romanians. The choice is clear. If anyone is confused, there is a clear disambiguation line at the very top of the page. - Themightyquill (talk) 20:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OP's post is racist propaganda. Romanians who immigrate to other EU countries have a compensated inferiority complex because the ethnic majorities of these countries stereotype Romanians as thieves and beggars. Not knowing how to stomach such bad public image, Romanians racists advance the idea that the Romani are guilty of all misdeeds attributed to Romanians, thus seeking to replace an ethnic stereotype with a racial stereotype (they have found a scapegoat for the national honor of Romania). Tgeorgescu (talk) 23:27, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the tendentious tagging per WP:SOAP. The POV template should not be used as a badge of shame. Tgeorgescu (talk) 00:02, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
See also WP:RGW and WP:ACTIVIST. Tgeorgescu (talk) 00:05, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Plural form

There appears to be no single convention for the plural form of the Romani people. While 'Romani' is often used without the definite article, it is equally common to find the use of the definite article as forming the plural: see this, this, and this as examples. While it is often contingent on context, this form is not replicated in the English language for other ethnic groups. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:08, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2015

This phrase "they were driven out by the KLA, or Kosovo Liberation Army, as well as the new Kosovar Albanian government" is not true. I live in that region, they are not from Kosovo, neither drawn by KLA or Kosovar Albanian government. This is a Serbian false statement! 178.175.20.90 (talk) 10:14, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done -- ferret (talk) 18:57, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Religion

Romani ancestors adhered most likely to Vedic religion similar to the practices of the Arya Samaj and contemporary Theravada Buddhism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.49.148.92 (talk) 22:44, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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