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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 96.255.166.6 (talk) at 03:29, 20 February 2016 (Moved to the bottom, since it's the most recent section.). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Renaming

Should this be renamed Rachel's Challenge since the article is more about that? Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 17:36, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See below. Endofskull (talk) 22:09, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rachel's Challenge

I'm going to go ahead and move the part about Rachel's Challenge to the article, Rachel's Challenge. I'll make it flow better too. Please either reply here, send me a message on my talk page, or post on the talk page of the Rachel's Challenge article if you have any concerns about how I changed it. Thanks! Endofskull (talk) 00:45, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removed the writings of a person who is irrelevant to the topic giving their own opinion. Please use the talk page or the sandbox instead.

Someone, more specifically a ten-year old girl who even went so far as to name herself, posted a paragraph she wrote about Rachel Scott to the page. Please use the sandbox or find a forum to post it on. This is meant to be an encyclopedic reference. Also, I fixed the formatting errors in the See Also section.

Wanderson9 (talk) 02:00, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

After rereading

I reread the article again today, and I believe that the award given to her father regarding ==Rachel's Challenge== should be moved to Rachel's Challenge and removed from here. Ideas?

Wanderson9 (talk) 22:41, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reference to Anne Frank

Hello, I am new to the whole wikipedia thing. At school i head an Rachel's Challenge assembly and the guy speaking said that Rachel's Diaries were similar to Anna Frank's. I dont know how to cite this, but i added 2 sentences to the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.48.161 (talk) 22:49, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nice job! Just a couple of follow up tweaks, changing 'Anna' to 'Anne', and I just added the double brackets to her name to create the article link.--Vybr8 (talk) 07:57, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that there are similarities between the legacies left by Rachel Scott and Anne Frank, and I have argued such elsewhere on Wikipedia. But for this claim to remain, a reference needs to be provided for "some sources". Marsoult (talk) 20:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've re-worded and sourced the Anne Frank parallel. Oneinatrillion (talk) 20:43, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think the opinion that there is a similarity between Anne Frank and Rachel Scott should not be mentioned in Wikipedia. My impression is that some people, weak in their mind and weaker in the hearts are hell bent on turning Rachel into a christian icon. All of this is rather embarrassing but the fact that there is now a comparison to Anne Frank is a disgrace. Until the day of her death, Rachel obviously had a rather blissful life until, by chance and much too early, she became a victim in a terrible shooting. There is nothing at all connecting her life and her diary to her death. By contrast, Anne Frank moved out of Germany at the age of three with her parents when the Nazis came to power. At the age of ten, she was trapped in Amsterdam, that was occupied by the Nazis. She and her family went into hiding for two years. Afterwards she spent half a year in a concentration camp, where she died eventually. I suggest that the comparison is removed from the article and the reason documented here for the future. 217.253.94.213 (talk) 21:29, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge discussion

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result was not to merge. -- StAnselm (talk) 03:17, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rachel's Tears: The Spiritual Journey of Columbine Martyr Rachel Scott was redirected to this article in 2004, after an Afd, then un-redirected in July 2011. User:Kerowyn proposed a re-merge with this page in December 2011, but neglected to add the tag to this page and open a discussion, so I'm doing both on her behalf. I oppose the merge; the book is notable enough to be worth a seperate article. DoctorKubla (talk) 14:53, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Copying this comment from the other article's talk page for clarity. DoctorKubla (talk) 14:53, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
no merge; notable in itself. Wikipedia:Notability (books): "The book has been the subject[1] of multiple, non-trivial[2] published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself.[3] This includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries and reviews. Some of these works should contain sufficient critical commentary to allow the article to grow past a simple plot summary. " Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 15:42, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Doing a search in Google News I found some stuff that may help WhisperToMe (talk) 00:59, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Semi-protecting this page

I noticed in the edit history that a lot of unencyclopedic and dubious, unsourced additions were made to the article by anonymous users, although these were removed, i think that this page should be semi-protected to prevent things like this from happening. 50.195.51.9 (talk) 15:08, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. I've put in a request at WP:RPP on your behalf. DoctorKubla (talk) 18:25, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Why does this page exist?

This person is not famous nor notable other than being a murder victim, and there are plenty of other victims who do not have wiki pages. I think this page should not exist, I do not think this person meets the criteria. It reads like a glowing obituary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.116.254.50 (talk) 05:42, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I mean, why do both Rachel Scott and Cassie Bernall have their own articles and not the other 11 victims as well? I think somebody should make a page entitled "Columbine High School victims" and put all the 13 people murdered (and even injured too) by the massacre rather than two random people having their own articles for no apparent reason.
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