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Time to discuss the airport name and resolve the situation

Because of the ongoing edit war about the name of the airport, I've protected the page. The constant edit-warring, particularly by multiple unregistered or newly-registered users, has reached the point of disruption.

I've restored the Sultan Aji Muhamad Sulaiman Airport name to go back to the status quo. What I'd like to hear is both perspectives, both for that name and for Sepinggan, on why the name is appropriate:

  • By what official pronouncement has the name change been authorized?
  • How does the airport refer to itself in formal presentation?
  • How do the airlines refer to the airport?
  • How does the press refer to the airport?

If the stronger case is for Sepinggan, let's reach consensus about that and change the title as well as the text. If the stronger case is for Sultan Aji Muhamad Sulaiman, let's get a clear consensus for that. Either way, I think it's time to discuss the matter rather than edit war, and to focus on which name is most appropriate per Wikipedia policies including verifiability. —C.Fred (talk) 18:54, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No wrong procedures, the local government just did not give complete requirement yet in January. And in the beginning of February, it was completed. Then, the airport name was changed, according to the "Keputusan Gubernur Kalimantan Timur Nomor 553/K.37/2014". Also it needs time for the airport authority to build new name plate.--120.172.118.198 (talk) 03:08, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • @120.172.118.198 : Can you read by carefully entire words of the second news do not read by partial paragraph, the local government is mean Balikpapan government, as per the rules, both of Major and parliament leader which are the most entitled to file a name change. Not the other party, even the East Kalimantan provincial government, in this case the Governor Awang Faroek. At the moment only major had been signed by forced of Governor and Muspida Kaltim, but the Chairman of DPRD Balikpapan (Balikpapan Parliament) not sign any letters until now, even they send a rejection letter to minister beginning of January to follow the Balikpapan's people aspirations. The SK of Governor not mean that proposal is approve yet by Minister, Minister in this case will raise their own official letter. And we are Balikpapan people still fighting for rejection. The good government leader (Governor) should be embraced (aspirations) of all parties or we can say should follow the voice Balikpapan's people not impose his personal will I suppose. We talk directly to the Project Manager of Angkasa Pura 1 Balikpapan as the owner of the Airport until now there is no decision about change of the name.TetapSepinggan (talk) 07:02, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Read the latest news (5 Feb 14). All government (such as Balikpapan, Kutai Kartanegara, and Penajam Paser Utara) also the Balikpapan Legislature (DPRD), has agreed with the new name.(news) You don't tell the truth.--120.177.117.13 (talk) 10:54, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's true about the latest news said that All government has agreed with the new name, But Our ministry has not approve request of the new name until now, So Sepinggan will keep Sepinggan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orang.manusia (talk • contribs) 14:48, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kemenhub has not approve new name for Sepinggan, So Sepinggan is the name of this airport until now — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orang.manusia (talk • contribs) 14:50, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I work inside of this ministry and i just can say, actually Our ministry don't agree with the new name of sepinggan, even governor of east borneo propose the new name and has approved by mayor of balikpapan, but ONLY WE WHO CAN CHANGE THE NAME not others. SO stop this polemic about this case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.213.22.189 (talk) 14:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The name of the airport has been regulated in the "Keputusan Gubernur Kalimantan Timur Nomor 553/K.37/2014". @49.213.22.189 If you -really- working in the Ministry, you should know that only local government can change the name. The Ministry can't.--120.172.2.110 (talk) 15:45, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]


You don't know about rules of changing airport name, One of the Important point that Our minister must be make Decision letter , But until now our minister still not yet make that letter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.213.22.189 (talk • contribs) 17:18, 14 February 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]

You must read JPNN.com news before (about the minister), only local government can change the name.--112.215.36.145 (talk) 17:44, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • @120.177.117.13 : Who's the person really know the truth? You with your opinion using only news from media local newspaper or we who's talking directly with our Chairman of parliament and the owner of the airport Angkasa Pura 1. The fact is the name is still Sepinggan International Airport until now but you which is I know you're not com from Balikpapan and in Governor side who totally insist the new name and using that new name everywhere before it's officially announce by Minister of Tranportation, then break all the rules and procedures and forced the Balikpapan's people to received that eventhough we are not agree just because you and Governor has a power as a East Kalimantan goverment. Read all that second news, If there is rejection Minister would not agree, that's the point. The Governor SK is not valid, because the Chairman of parliament not sign, he was not in meeting that day when Governor forced the major to signed in front of Military General and East Kalimantan Police Leader. That's The fact also and your media sounding the wrong news. Better we wait on next June when President officialy announce the new development of Bandara Sepinggan in our City Balikpapan. I know all the people who want to change the name of the airport is not came from Balikpapan.TetapSepinggan (talk) 01:10, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@112.215.36.145 : Local government can change the name is mean Balikpapan Government initiative : Parliament and Major Balikpapan not province.

I will put the news which is contain a statement from Head of Communications and Public Information Ministry of Transportation :

Ministry of Transportation ensure can not grant permission request a name change Sepinggan Airport , Balikpapan became Sultan Aji Muhammad Sulaiman , if there is a refusal of Parliament or local government . (A letter of refusal has been send by parliament to minister beginning of January 2014)

As per the valid rules , both of which are the most entitled to file a name change . Not the other party , not to mention the East Kalimantan provincial government , in this case the Governor Awang Faroek .

" Procedures are to be no approval of Parliament where the airport is located. If no , the Minister of Transport issued a decree can not change the name of the airport , " said Head of Communications and Public Information Ministry of Transportation, Bambang S Ervan , Friday ( 24/1 ) .

Although the governor filed a name change is possible , said Bambang , however MoT should still hear the input of Parliament where the airport is located . If there is any conflict between the two sides as polemic Sepinggan today, the Ministry of Transportation will ask for an explanation why it could happen .

" The point is there should be input and support of Parliament ( Balikpapan ) first . If no , it can not , " repeated Bambang . As one of the air transport regulator , the Ministry of Transportation did not dispute the name of the airport was replaced by the local government . But the name change is important because Sepinggan an international airport so it needs to be announced to the world overseas flight .

Examples of the central government can not interfere in a matter of giving the name of the airport , Bambang added , can be seen the use of the name Kuala Namu Airport in Medan , North Sumatra . Airport which opened July 25, 2013 is taken from the name of an area is not a local hero or heroine . "On behalf of us leave it to the local government , " said Bambang again . (as the prior sentence in paragraph 2 and 3 is mean Balikpapan government : Parliament and Major not province)

But he could not ascertain whether the proposed change of name of the governor of East Kalimantan has been received by Minister or not . " What is certain is that the full approval of Parliament Balikpapan name change process shortly . If there is a rejection we must reject the calling party who's reject , " he explained .

At the end of the interview , Bambang asked Awang not obtrude Sepinggan rename when Balikpapan Parliament rejected. " The governor should be embraced ( aspirations ) of all parties , " he hoped .

Earlier, Chairman of the Parliament Andi Burhanuddin Solong Balikpapan and Balikpapan Mayor Rizal Effendi ensure Balikpapan Awang Faroek still reject the proposal . For Burhanuddin , Sepinggan name is synonymous with the history of Balikpapan which is now 117 years old. While Rizal admitted that he had requested the Secretary- Vice President who came and see the progress of the project some time ago , in order to reject the governor 's proposal . ( pre / JPNN ) ( as you can see our Major was rejected at first before Governor forced him on the meeting last January 22nd)TetapSepinggan (talk) 01:41, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Once again, all government (Balikpapan, Penajam Paser Utara, Kutai Kartanegara, East Kalimantan) and the legislature (you say Parliament) has agreed with the new name (see Portal Balikpapan news - published in February, not January). You don't read the news.

And only the local government can change the name, the authority or the minister can't. The name of the airport has been regulated in the "Keputusan Gubernur Kalimantan Timur Nomor 553/K.37/2014".

I live in Gunung Pasir, Balikpapan and I just tell the truth here (with many references--including your reference). What you say here is contrary with the fact.--120.179.55.204 (talk) 02:37, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I talk directly with our chairman of parliament, he said he didn't agree and he was not in Balikpapan that time, your local media have been set-up to write it was agreed, the fact is No !!!
Not by province who can change the name but Balikpapan parliament. It's only claimed by Governor' side as always in media, cheating every people like you did in this article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.67.38.25 (talk • contribs) 07:42, 16 February 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]
The Balikpapan parliament has agreed with the new name. --182.15.194.67 (talk) 05:37, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This dispute already out of hand, those people who demanding to rename of Sepinggan International Airport really blind with their perspective, even they thought even more powerful than people of Balikpapan's voices. So many references has been publish (those link already provided by user Tetap Sepinggan) and there is NO official rename for this airport YET. And this article has been spreading like decease and given so much false information around the world, and this is not good, Wikipedia should be one of the credible source of any information, not source of false and ridiculous junk on internet. I urge admin to justify and lock false information about renaming Sepinggan Airport once for all. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.254.217.118 (talk) 00:46, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

News posted by TetapSepinggan was published in January, when the local government did not complete the requirement yet. Read the latest news. The name has been changed.--39.209.45.36 (talk) 03:23, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The news is from the authorized Minister of Transportation and very clear, you just don't get it ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.67.38.25 (talk • contribs) 07:42, 16 February 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]

If there is rejection from people, Minister would not agree. The Governor SK is not valid, it's only claimed from one side, from the governor who is not telling the truth as always in local media since the first time he rise the name change. Wait on the next June and I am off from here, hope the moderator can see the clear fact as it's not legally change but still Sepinggan International Airport. 202.67.38.25 (talk) 07:13, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You don't read the latest news. The legislature (and all government) has agreed with the new name (read Portal Balikpapan news). You do not tell the truth. New name has been regulated in the "Keputusan Gubernur Kalimantan Timur Nomor 553/K.37/2014".--182.3.95.116 (talk) 08:34, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We need more reliable sources; there are no signs of consensus

I've re-protected the article, because the edit wars have started again. I asked for verifiable information, and it's split down the middle: the airport hasn't changed its website, but the news media have reported the name change. I don't see any evidence of consensus being reached, so that means stay with the status quo of Sultan Aji Muhamad Sulaiman Airport. —C.Fred (talk) 03:28, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]


These news has explained that the new name (Sultan Aji Muhamad Sulaiman) has been regulated:


While waiting a minister decree, as we know the minister decree is higher than a decision of the governor; http://finance.detik.com/read/2014/03/03/135143/2513626/4/ini-penampakan-terbaru-the-new-sepinggan-bandara-pertama-dengan-mal-di-ri In the latest news the airport name is The New Sepinggan.TetapSepinggan (talk) 02:21, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

'as we know'? who is 'we'?. It was clearly last month that only local gov can change the name. And the new name has been regulated since the beginning of February. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.174.93.147 (talk) 07:56, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why you asking that question if you are Indonesian you should know the rules. The fact is Minister Decree is more higher than Governor decision of course because Indonesian airport is established in a ministerial decision. Local Government is Balikpapan government not province. Calm down and let's see that the name will legalize by Minister Decree as happened in Kuala Namu Airport (North Sumatra) and Lombok.TetapSepinggan (talk) 09:11, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, your question have been answered before. You still do not understand the procedure. It has been explained on the news posted by you. You ask again about Balikpapan government. It was clear that Balikpapan government also the legislature has agreed with it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.4.106.157 (talk) 10:55, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Back again and seems you are the one who don't know the procedure. The Balikpapan Major agreed by political intervention from Governor but The Balikpapan parliament was not agreed and not sign any letter until now, the chairman of parliament was not in the meeting. And the parliament already sent the rejection letter to minister since 6th of January 2014, concerning this rejection letter, minister will considering the proposal of governor.TetapSepinggan (talk) 03:12, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You are repeating your question. The legislature (parliament) has agreed with the new name (read the latest news).--120.174.189.125 (talk) 22:15, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A link to a specific news source would be more helpful than just "read the latest news". —C.Fred (talk) 01:18, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Open all news links by Satria before, it is already there. It's clear.

Read the third paragraph on portalbalikpapan.com, also the fourth paragraph on kontan.co.id and koranabri.com (DPRD/legislature agreed with the new name) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.180.120.57 (talk) 00:51, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulation to new Sepinggan International Airport Balikpapan for officially in operation last Saturday, March 22, 2014 with the name still Sepinggan International Airport Balikpapan as we can see from Kompas Newspaper Adverstisement below and Angkasa Pura 1 as the Airport Management informed that they didn't receive any instruction to change or add the airport name from Minister of Transportion; http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i469/ryan_azhar/Sepinggan_zps29142a00.jpgTetapSepinggan (talk) http://www.angkasapura1.co.id/detail/berita/921-angkasa-pura-airports-siapkan-sdm-untuk-kelola-bandara-internasional-sepinggan-baru 05:20, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

New name has been regulated since February. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.219.116.137 (talk) 06:18, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Based on Minister of Transportation's decree KP No. 647 on July 1st 2014, Sepinggan International Airport has changed name to Sultan Aji Muhammad Sepinggan International Airport — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fakhrizain (talk • contribs) 01:03, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The name is Sultan Aji Muhammad Sulaiman Airport (in Indonesian: Bandar Udara Sultan Aji Muhammad Sulaiman). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mazta2012 (talk • contribs) 00:35, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Update The Picture Page

I need to change the picture page, because Sultan Aji Muhammad Sulaiman's new terminal building has been built. It will be necessary to show the new one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrePramadhana (talk • contribs) 15:24, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't opened officially yet.--114.4.23.56 (talk) 07:58, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Protection

This article needs protection. I added some image and tried to improve the article but some anonymous user keep reverting my edits. Thank you. Calvin Wisanto (talk) 23:17, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not the airport logo, transit, etc. Revert vandal (Calvin Wisanto).--120.169.255.184 (talk) 23:20, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is not obvious vandalism. You should be discussing changes here on the talk page instead of reverting. See WP:EW and WP:3RR. clpo13(talk) 23:21, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I already explained that in the edit summary, he always revert all revisions, so I return it to last version. Not the airport logo, transit, terminated dstn, inappropriate use of img gall., etc.--120.169.255.184 (talk) 23:34, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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