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I don't know how this article received a rating of GA-class. Although there is a whole lot of information, I would say this article is not very good at all, and should probably be marked with the cleanup, NPOV, and unreferenced tags. There are entire paragraphs that need to be removed. I'm not sure if it's appropriate to override another user's assessment, especially when the assessment is just two days old, and also when it was done by such a prestigious user (User:Plange), so I will leave the rating alone and start editing the article to improve it. I encourage all editors to help me with this article. --Muéro 03:27, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are numerous statements in this article that need sources, so I added the unsourced tag. Once again, although I am planning on working on it myself, any help would be appreciated. --Muéro 17:20, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Jaskaramdeep made a good point on his talk page about the video hosted at TSN, but it is moot, since the whole section about one incident in a hockey game is unimportant; my real problem is with videos ripped from copyrighted television broadcasts, uploaded to YouTube, and then posted on Wikipedia. I would bet that 99% of videos on YouTube are not appropriate for Wikipedia. He has demanded that I list a reason for every word I edit on this page, so here goes:
  • Edmonton declared their intent in the summer of 2006 by signing the potential franchise player [1][2] to a six-year contract [3] . Barring unforeseen circumstances, it will see him earn US $24.6 million, sacrifice three years of UFA status, and enter the 2011-12 NHL season as an Oiler. What does "declared their intent" mean? Declared their intent to what? Who says he is a potential franchise player? A source is needed. The sources here have nothing to do with the text, and should be removed. As for the part about sacrificing UFA status, it's really not needed. He signed a deal. It was his choice. It was a business deal, not a gesture to the organization or anything else. Also, anyone can figure out that barring unforseen circumstances, a 6-year deal will last through the 2011-12 season.
  • The talented playmaker was spotted by North American scouts by year's end, and subsequently became the first selection of the Hull Olympiques in the 2000 CHL Import Draft. "The talented playmaker" is bias/POV and should be removed.
  • Canadian Major Junior Hockey is the primary pool from which the NHL drafts, and young players who perform well in that hockey fishbowl are rarely overlooked. This is extreme speculation and should be removed . . . unless a source is provided.
  • The Edmonton Oilers had suffered from poor draft choices through the mid-90s, primarily due to chief scout Barry Fraser's refusal to properly utilize his scouting staff [4]. Fans successfully pressured the team to release Fraser when it was discovered in 2000 that he spent most of his time scouting players on videotape in Mexico [5]. Kevin Prendergast was subseqently promoted to fill the vacant role of head scout. This is biased, speculatory, and has almost no relation to Ales Hemsky's life.
  • Prendergast also revealed that the draft in 2001 changed to more of a group effort under his guide. "I think every scout has his own favorite players. Our staff works as a team and whomever the player is that we take, we’re taking him as a team. There might be three or four scouts who don’t like that player but the other nine guys on staff do like him." [6] This is biased, speculatory, and has absolutely no relation to Ales Hemsky's life.
  • as it seems likely that young Hemsky will successfully fill Guerin's role as the Oilers' first-line right winger for many more years than Guerin conceivably could have. Wow . . . this is extremely biased and speculatory.
  • The aim was to give Hemsky every chance to prove himself in the NHL before being relegated to the AHL; hopefully resulting in the maturation of his potential into a star-calibre player. [7] The source provided is barely related to the text here. Also, incorrect use of the word "hopefully."
  • However, there were still many games where he would do very little, then would come from the abyss to make the highlight-reel play. Once again, this has very biased wording, and is not verifiable.
  • Accompanied by fellow NHL'ers Milan Hejduk (COL), Michal Rozsival (NYR), Jan Bulis (MTL), Petr Prucha (NYR), and Petr Sykora (WAS), Hemsky would return to the Czech Republic This article is about Hemsky. We do not need to list all of his teammates. This makes the article long, and for no good reason.
  • He seemed to have increased his top speed (or possibly was more willing to use it now), while carrying the puck. This is speculatory and would definitely need a source to be included.
  • However, his improvement during the lockout had many believeing that he made the difficult steps in becoming an elite player while in the Czech Republic, and that it was only a matter of time before he worked the kinks out of his game.Again, this is speculatory (as well as biased) and would definitely need a source to be included.
  • Opposing teams have also picked up on Hemsky's gamebreaking ability. Several times during the course of the season, players have looked to hit with the intent of hurting him. Mactavish has stated that to his credit, Hemsky is much stronger than he appears [8]. The Oilers as a team had their eyes opened by a blatant attempt to injure Hemsky in Buffalo on January 16, 2006. After Hemsky opened the scoring with a fake on a 2-on-1, Jay McKee would make a play which angered many Oiler players and fans. Hemsky was gaining speed through the neutral zone, looking to break across the Sabres' blue line for another odd-man rush when McKee, realizing he would not be able to catch Hemsky should he pass, stuck his knee out and made contact with Hemsky's. This is a very dangerous play in hockey, and has been the cause of many serious injuries. Oilers captain Jason Smith immediately saw McKee's intent, and charged up the ice after him, prompting the outburst of a full-line brawl. (see TSN's video of the incident) This is extremely biased, speculatory, and almost entirely sourceless. It is also unimportant. It may have gotten the fans riled up for a few days on discussion boards, but it does not make it encyclopedic.
  • After the Oilers lost game 4 of the Finals to the Hurricanes, Mactavish was again asked if he becomes frustrated when Hemsky opts to pass instead of taking the obvious shot. He was visibly upset when he responded; "Well, you know what I get frustrated with? I get frustrated with the question. And, I mean, you haven't been here all year, and I get frustrated with the question. The guy has led our team in scoring, he's a playmaker, he wins lots of games for us, yet every Tom, Dick and Harry is telling him how to play the game. The guy is a good player, he's a good passer ... he makes plays."[9] As is his wont, Hemsky responded in game 5, ending Edmonton's 4-game powerplay drought by scoring on an uncharacteristic one-timed slapshot from the right faceoff circle. None of this is encyclopedic in any way. This may be the most unimportant quotation on all of Wikipedia. If you want, add a sentence that says "Hemsky sometimes opts to pass instead of taking the obvious shot." --but only if a good source is provided.
  • As for my deletion of links to YouTube, it is because the television broadcasts were copyrighted.
I have reverted the above passages for the reasons listed. Once again, I welcome discussion about the article. --Muéro 19:34, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]