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Welcome

Hello, RaNdOm26, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for your contributions. I hope you like it here and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you will enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! You can sign your name on talk and voting pages using four tildes, (~~~~), which produces your username, the time, and the date. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! -- getcrunkjuicecontribs 16:16, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to Lee Harding. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. CynicalMe 06:19, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't write any nonsense **frowns**.

Welcome and a few things

First, welcome to Wikipedia. You should consider joining the Tropical Cyclone Wikiproject, seeing as you like to edit Australian cyclones (which we need help with). For images, generally you shouldn't use a search engine, unless you know what you're looking for. As a rule of thumb, most images whose urls end in .gov or .mil are public domain or at least fair use. You should double check to see who took the image or picture before going ahead. If it is public domain, you should upload it to Wikipedia Commons, once you get an account there. This is how you upload it. Right click on the Public Domain image, and click "Save Picture as", and name it whatever. Click on the upload icon on the Commons page, and follow the directions given at the top (description, source, date, author, and permission). Inline sourcing is giving the source for the information you added to the article. At the every source you have, do something like this. <ref name="name">{{cite web|author=Person/Organization|year=Year|title=Whatever the Title is|accessdate=Whatever date you put it in (2006-06-22)|url=www.whatever.com}}</ref> I hope that made a little sense. Just add in everything. Hopefully that all makes sense. Hurricanehink (talk) 13:16, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Very glad to hear that. We always love having new members. Good luck with any future plans you have. I hope you're able to work on some southern hemisphere storms or seasons. That is one area of the WPTC that needs some work. See you around! Hurricanehink (talk) 17:53, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Hi

I put the comments in the talk page. The reason you didn't get the newsletter is because you didn't join the Tropical Cyclone Wikiproject. If you put your name in the participants list, you'll get one each month. --Hurricanehink (talk) 13:25, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice, and welcome to the Tropical Cyclone Wikiproject! We're looking forward to any future edits you can make to tropical cyclones, and we're happy to have you on board. Current projects include bettering the existing articles on retired hurricanes to GA or FA status. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Here's the latest version of our monthly newsletter. Enjoy!

Number 2, July 2, 2006

The Hurricane Herald

This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The Hurricane Herald aims to give a summary, both of the activities of the WikiProject and global tropical cyclone activity. If you wish to change how you receive this newsletter, or no longer wish to receive it, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list.

Storm of the month

Tropical Storm Alberto near peak intensity
Tropical Storm Alberto near peak intensity
Tropical Storm Alberto was the first tropical storm of the 2006 Atlantic hurricane season. Forming on June 10 over the western Caribbean Sea, the system moved northwestward as a disorganized tropical depression due to dry air and wind shear. It passed to the west of Cuba, bringing heavy rainfall to Cuba and Grand Cayman. The rainfall damaged 37 homes and destroyed 3 in Havana. It strengthened over the Gulf of Mexico and became a tropical storm on June 11. The center reformed to the northeast near its deep convection, and Alberto reached a peak intensity of 70 mph (110 km/h) before weakening and hitting the Florida Panhandle on June 13. Alberto brought heavy rainfall to the southeastern United States, peaking at 7.16 inches in Raleigh, North Carolina. The rainfall in Florida was beneficial in places as it alleviated drought conditions. The storm indirectly caused two deaths: A pilot who crashed near Tampa due to poor conditions and a boy who drowned in the flooding in Raleigh, North Carolina.

Other tropical cyclone activity

New articles and improvements wanted

Member of the month

Cyclone barnstar
Cyclone barnstar

The June member of the month is Jdorje. The WikiProject awards this to him for his many contributions to the coverage of tropical cyclones on Wikipedia. Jdorje founded the WikiProject in October 2005 and established much of the categorizations the project depends on. His most significant contributions include the Featured article 1928 Okeechobee Hurricane and his track map generator with which he has created hundreds of track maps.

Storm article statistics

Grade April May June July
FA 7 7 10 13
A 4 5 7 6
GA 0 3 5 18
B 62 66 82 79
Start 154 177 168 180
Stub 13 12 10 8
Total 240 263 282 303
percentage
≥Less than B 		69.6 71.6 63.1 62.0

WikiProject subpages

This is a brief description of some of the subpages of the WikiProject, explaining their purpose briefly, to find out more read the pages.

  • Assessments: Provides a series of guidelines to help with the assessment and improvement of articles. Discussion of how to improve specific articles is also held here and future nominations for FAC.
  • Merging: Discussion of articles which could be merged is held here. Generally for less significant topics, their articles are likely to be listed here unless very well written.
  • Article requests: A list of many possible subjects for articles, with comments on the worth of an article. If you have a topic which you think should have an article, list it here.
  • Collaboration: Discussion of the collaboration of the fortnight is held here. Nominate an article for WikiProject collaboration or comment on the existing nominations on this page.
  • Newsletter: The content of future editions of this newsletter and selection of Member of the month are discussed here.
  • Other topics not relating to a specific article are handled on the main WikiProject talk page.

Thanks to Hurricanehink to maintaining the stats table and producing the storm summaries. Nilfanion (talk)

Here's some pointers to making a good tropical cyclone article. Dear Tropical cyclone editor,

As a member of the Tropical Cyclone Wikiproject, you are receiving this message to describe how you can better tropical cyclone articles. There are hundreds of tropical cyclone articles, though many of them are poorly organized and lacking in information. Using the existing featured articles as a guide line, here is the basic format for the ideal tropical cyclone article.

  1. Infobox- Whenever possible, the infobox should have a picture for the tropical cyclone. The picture can be any uploaded picture about the storm, though ideally it should be a satellite shot of the system. If that is not available, damage pictures, either during the storm or after the storm, are suitable. In the area that says Formed, indicate the date on which the storm first developed into a tropical depression. In the area that says Dissipated, indicate the date on which the storm lost its tropical characteristics. This includes when the storm became extratropical, or if it dissipated. If the storm dissipated and reformed, include the original start date and the final end date. Highest winds should be the local unit of measurement for speed (mph in non-metric countries, km/h in metric countries), with the other unit in parenthesis. The lowest pressure should be in mbars. Damages should, when available, be in the year of impact, then the present year. The unit of currency can be at your discretion, though typically it should be in USD. Fatalities indicate direct deaths first, then indirect deaths. Areas affected should only be major areas of impact. Specific islands or cities should only be mentioned if majority of the cyclone's effects occurred there.
  2. Intro- The intro for every article should be, at a minimum, 2 paragraphs. For more impacting hurricanes, it should be 3. The first should describe the storm in general, including a link to the seasonal article, its number in the season, and other statistics. The second should include a brief storm history, while the third should be impact.
  3. Storm history- The storm history should be a decent length, relatively proportional to the longevity of the storm. Generally speaking, the first paragraph should be the origins of the storm, leading to the system reaching tropical storm status. The second should be the storm reaching its peak. The third should be post-peak until landfall and dissipation. This section is very flexible, depending on meteorological conditions, but it should generally be around 3. Storm histories can be longer than three paragraphs, though they should be less than five. Anything more becomes excessive. Remember, all storm impacts, preparations, and records can go elsewhere. Additional pictures are useful here. If the picture in the infobox is of the storm at its peak, use a landfall picture in the storm history. If the picture in the infobox is of the storm at its landfall, use the peak. If the landfall is its peak, use a secondary peak, or even a random point in the storm's history.
  4. Preparations- The preparations section can be any length, depending on the amount of preparations taken by people for the storm. Hurricane watches and warnings need to be mentioned here, as well as the number of people evacuated from the coast. Include numbers of shelters, and other info you can find on how people prepared for the storm.
  5. Impact- For landfalling storms, the impact section should be the majority of the article. First, if the storm caused deaths in multiple areas, a death table would work well in the top level impact section. A paragraph of the general effects of the storm is also needed. After the intro paragraph, impact should be broken up by each major area. It depends on the information, but sections should be at least one paragraph, if not more. In the major impact areas, the first paragraph should be devoted to meteorological statistics, including rainfall totals, peak wind gusts on land, storm surge, wave heights, beach erosion, and tornadoes. The second should be actual damage. Possible additional paragraphs could be detailed information on crop damage or specifics. Death and damage tolls should be at the end. Pictures are needed, as well. Ideally, there would be at least one picture for each sub-section in the impact, though this sometimes can't happen. For storms that impact the United States or United States territories, this site can be used for rainfall data, including an image of rainfall totals.
  6. Aftermath- The aftermath section should describe foreign aid, national aid, reconstruction, short-term and long-term environmental effects, and disease. Also, the storm's retirement information, whether it happened or not, should be mentioned here.
  7. Records- This is optional, but can't hurt to be included.
  8. Other- The ideal article should have inline sourcing, with the {{cite web}} formatting being preferable. Always double check your writing and make sure it makes sense.

Good luck with future writing, and if you have a question about the above, don't hesitate to ask.


See you around. --Hurricanehink (talk) 13:18, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Track maps

Glad you like them! I do have some BoM raw data and am trying to figure out how to interpret it at the moment, it would be much better to use BoM data instead of the JTWC. The BoM track for Steve shows things differently to the JTWC, for instance the fact the storm reached the Bight instead of dissipating overland. On the colouration, I think the track maps should show sustained winds (and so the US scale), as they need to allow global comparison. That's why the SSHS category determines the colour in the infobox.--Nilfanion (talk) 09:47, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ele and Huko have now had their track maps updated.--Nilfanion (talk) 18:20, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And that's that lot done. Marcia doesn't have one as the JTWC didn't actually track that system. Could you finish off the South Pacific storm summaries in that article? And no problem glad you appreciate :)--Nilfanion (talk) 23:03, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #3

The August issue of the WikiProject Tropical cyclones newsletter is now available. If you wish to receive the full newsletter or no longer be informed of the release of future editions, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:22, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: MOTM

Thanks! By the way, great job with the 1999-2000 Southern Hemisphere season. Hurricanehink (talk) 18:06, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Hellooooo!!!!!

:) Sorry, but I focus on the northern hemisphere. I think, in total, I've made about 5 edits to southern hemisphere articles. I'm not sure where you can find good links for the southern hemisphere seasons... Maybe google it? Hurricanehink (talk) 12:41, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the only good sources I am aware of online are Gary Padgett's summaries and the BoM. However, the JTWC ATCRs starting in 1985 also provide information. (The pertinent chapter is typically the one after the one marked "LARGE". However, if you activate your email and send me an email, I can then send you a copy of Jack Beven's weekly summaries for 1991-95.--Nilfanion (talk) 16:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CIV, WP:OWN

Re this edit summarry, please be civil. No one owns articles, and anyone is free to edit. Chacor 16:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chacor, check your spelling, will you? RaNdOm26 15:05, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Again. WP:CIV, or you may be liable for a block. Chacor 15:07, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I am not very concerned about being blocked because Wikipedia is not my priority, I am more concerned about whether I feel happy about contributing to Wikipedia or not. I don't like working in an unfriendly environment. RaNdOm26 15:34, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You are very welcome to fork or leave, actually. If you really want to work in a friendly environment you should help make it friendlier, not make it worse. Chacor 15:36, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If that's so, I guess I shouldn't be talking to you anymore, since I can't get along with you anymore. RaNdOm26 15:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If I am making a lot of edits to an article, which results in an edit conflict, what are you supposed to do about preventing any edit conflicts, since they are definitely a real pain. RaNdOm26 08:27, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The best thing to do is to add {{inuse}} to the article while you are doing major work.--Nilfanion (talk) 09:51, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Hello!!

Well, Alastor Moody says he was born March 15, 1994. But I'm almost 12 1/2. But Alastor has only made just over 1000 edits. íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 21:22, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ACE

Formula for ACE is windspeed in knots, divided by 1000, then squared. Therefore 40 knots = (40/1000)*(40/1000) = 0.4*0.4 = 0.16. Unit is 104kt2. Only works with full 1-minute six-hourly advisories. Chacor 09:04, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it would be divided by 100, then squared. The other numbers above are correct, just replace 1000 with 100. So 40 knots = (40/100)*(40/100) = 0.4*0.4 = 0.16. Also, the figured is generally given in 3 significant figures. --Ajm81 13:25, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, heh, was busy working on an article for Kyle (2002). Chacor 13:26, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see, thanks for that, Ajm81! RaNdOm26 09:08, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

Cyclone Catarina
Thank you for voting in my RfA. I would especially like to thank those 18 people that supported me. But I'd also like to thank those that may have not voted for me, but gave me advice to make me a better wikipedian. Once again, I thank you all. Unfortunately, the final result was 18 supporters, 32 opposers, 9 nuetrals, therefore I wasn't promoted to sysop. I hope to see you vote in my next RfA in late 2006, early 2007. Hopefully you'll support me. íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 15:28, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IRC

Hey, if you're there, could you go on the WPTC's IRC? Just go to http://www.ircatwork.com/ and type in a nickname (your username would be good), then type in "#wiki-hurricanes" in the box that says channel next to it. Hope to see you there; I'm really bored. íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 12:58, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you go on now? íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 01:08, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chart websites

Hello! The website for Billboard charts is http://billboard.com/bbcom/charts/genre_index.jsp and the Canadian charts are physical singles airplay. This is the UK singles chart website. I'd advise to not use the poorly-maintained sites [1] because they often have incorrect positions. :-) — getcrunk what?! 23:15, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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