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Hello,

I have submitted an article a month ago and other users provided me feedback about article, what should I correct. I had to add references about the subject, which I did(several news articles) but got no answer. Could you please tell me what can I do to get some information about the status of my submitted article?

Thank you in advance. Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mici quattro (talkcontribs) 10:04, 15 April 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]

Interculturalness

I am kindly asking for help regarding the behavior of an Admin Ohnoitsjamie) that decided to completely delete any intervention done in one year of work on wikipedia, providing for earch intervention different reasons, but, as a matter of fact, deleting one year of serious work. I am an Italian Fulbright Scholar in Intercultural Communication, researcher and trainer, and I am trying to improve the interculturalness of some voices, and I read that Wikipedia appreciates contributions from different cultures (I acted only on topics on which I can have something to add, and where I wrote books or articles, otherwise I would not feel to be competent), so my work has been trying to add contents to the English version of Wikipedia that would otherwise not appear, only published works and with citation of proper sources. I wish to know if I violated any rule or it is normal to have all the work done deleted in one day - this is an example of a deletion of an approach that I think is really detrimental to wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Intercultural_communication&diff=718145622&oldid=714929947 Thanks in advance for your kind attention — Preceding unsigned comment added by Culturalresearch (talkcontribs) 11:22, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a stab at explaining what might be happening but am sure too that I'm going to overlook something, and would solicit further comment from others. I looked over some of your contributions and noticed what to my eyes, appear to be a couple of essential issues with them. I looked at these:
Human Resources
Emotion
Value (ethics)
Skill
Marketing
Personal development
Each of these (except for perhaps "personal development") presents a broad overview of an ordinary concept. Your additions, often to the lead, presented highly specific and (again to my eyes) academically-focused commentary or observations about the subject that were presented without much in the way of context or lead-in. Several seemed to be written more like abstracts, summarizing research without really explaining how the concepts fit into the larger article. More to the point however, is that each of your contributions cited papers by the same author (presumably you but it doesn't matter) - this practice is sufficiently common among editors who are seeking to promote themselves, or their works - rather than objectively improve the encyclopedia, that the term "link spam" has been coined to describe it. See the page WP:LINKSPAM. I don't want to speak for @Ohnoitsjamie: but I would say that between the somewhat tone-deaf nature of your edits, combined with the single-source nature of the references, it was not an unreasonable conclusion that the additions were indeed a variety of link spam and subject to removal. I don't know really anything about your work, or how successfully or appropriately it might be integrated into the encyclopedia, but perhaps what I've said will be useful in some fashion as you go forward it in editing. I hope so. JohnInDC (talk) 14:35, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's pretty clear to me that Culturalresearch is a single purpose self-promotion account, which is why I reverted (and did a bunch of other housecleaning from their last few months of contributions). OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:24, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I wish to thank JohnInDC for the polite answer. I personally do not agree but I respect it, and also the Wikipedia article about SPA, that highlights "Communal standards such as don't bite the newcomers apply to all users. Be courteous. Focus on the subject matter, not the person. If they are given fair treatment, they may also become more involved over time." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Culturalresearch (talkcontribs) 19:30, 6 May 2016 (UTC) Also, I wish to highlight that the issue of interculturalness is still valid, since the material I provided comes mainly from Italian authors and in the future other Latin authors that are really misrepresented in the English version of the topics on which they have written published books. The next author I am about to consider is Francesco Muzzarelli who is absolutely unknown to non-italian sources despite his huge amount of publications in Italian, and Ciro Imparato, one of the world's leading scientists and trainers on paralinguistic research, who unfortunately died recently. I remember clearly of having read about wikipedia values of promoting interculturalness and different points of view within a voice and I hope this attempt to bring in Latin and non-english literature (and the effort to translate it) will be understood and appreciated.[reply]

Tierra (Band)

Resolved

The name of Henry Kenny Roman is misspelled as Romain and also is not on the list of band members past present. He was on the 1973 album TIERRA 20th. Century Label.He played in various groups The Iperials, Loose Caboose, Xochipili, Dave Matthews Band and many others. He was a child prodigy playing drums at the age of 5, preforming with teens 5-6 years his elder. Would be nice to have this corrected as he is no longer with us. Norman Aguilar, Road Dog and Friend in growing up in the Barrio.

If you have a reliable source as defined by Wikipedia for this information, please go ahead and fix it yourself and cite your source or list the request and the source on the article talk page. This forum is not for requesting such requests to be made for you, since Wikipedia is the encyclopedia anyone can edit. Regard, TransporterMan (TALK) 02:59, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Notwithstanding what I've said, above, I've corrected it from Romain to Román (not Roman), per the cited source in the Tierra (band) article. If there are other locations where it needs to be corrected, please feel free to do so, citing that source. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 03:09, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

requested moves

I began a RfC in the article "area of a disk" about changing the title to "area of a circle"...many people have weighed in...I see there's a requested moves noticeboard, should this be there too somehow now?68.48.241.158 (talk) 11:37, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Need help correcting and removing bias from TWA_Flight_800 page

TWA Flight 800 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Dear Editor(s):

I respectfully request help editing and removing bias from Wikipedia's TWA Flight 800 page. This is a controversial story with misinformation from the public and media, but also from the NTSB, CIA, and FBI. For example, Wikipedia's second paragraph cites an FBI claim that "no evidence had been found of a criminal act", while further along Wikipedia reports that "RDX and pentaerythritol tetranitrate (PETN)" (explosives common to missiles and bombs) were detected on wreckage items. Both cannot be true, and therefore great care must be taken on how to frame official pronouncements vs. conflicting evidence.

The official investigation was plagued with abnormalities, including the undocumented removal of wreckage that tested positive for explosives by the FBI and the CIA supplanting the NTSB's official Eyewitness Group Factual Report with a highly publicized CIA animation televised nationally weeks before the NTSB's fact-finding hearing. However, the Wikipedia page puts a positive spin on these instances, while employing the derogatory term "conspiracy" when mentioning those (including six high-level whistle-blowers from the original NTSB investigation) who question those and other abnormal events.

Here is how Wikipedia currently brings up the FBI's improper removal of evidence:

--- With lines of authority unclear, differences in agendas and culture between the FBI and NTSB resulted in discord.[32]:1 The FBI, from the start assuming that a criminal act had occurred,[32]:3 saw the NTSB as indecisive. Expressing frustration at the NTSB's unwillingness to speculate on a cause, one FBI agent described the NTSB as "No opinions. No nothing".[32]:4 Meanwhile, the NTSB was required to refute or play down speculation about conclusions and evidence, frequently supplied to reporters by law enforcement officials and politicians.[22]:3[32]:4 The International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAMAW), an invited party to the NTSB investigation, criticized the undocumented removal by FBI agents of wreckage from the hangar where it was stored.[34] ---

This paragraph makes it seem as though the FBI's removal of evidence was an act by a "Do Something" agency, in response to a "No opinions. No Nothing" NTSB. However the truth of the matter is that Jim Speer, who is now a whistle-blower, and was then an investigator working within the NTSB's investigation, discovered a piece of wreckage early on and recognized high-velocity damage on it. He then had it tested for explosives, and explosives were in fact detected on it. This was not a do-"nothing" effort. And the FBI's removal of that piece was questionable, especially since it remains unaccounted for today. I believe the current spin of this apparently illegal activity goes against Wikipedia's policy of maintaining a neutral tone.

Here is how the article summarizes the CIA's work:

--- [Based upon] how long it took for the sound of the initial explosion to reach the witnesses[,]...the witnesses could not be describing a missile approaching an intact aircraft, as the plane had already exploded before their observations began. ---

This is inaccurate. And it is based on misinformation appearing in a CIA animation, which was broadcast nationally only three weeks before the NTSB fact-finding hearing. The CIA analysis relied on a "sound analysis" applied to one or two witnesses who reported hearing a sound before apparently seeing a missile, while there were 670 eyewitnesses in total. And significantly, the vast majority of witnesses who saw a rising streak of light head up to the area where TWA 800 ultimately broke apart heard *no* sounds until after the aircraft hit the water, after falling from 2.5 miles up. Also, the CIA sound analysis only considered short range missiles fired relatively close to and below the jetliner, which is at odds with a significant number of witness statements describing a longer-range missile originally traveling closer to shore (such a launch could have been heard prior to, or about the same time as seeing a rising object approach the jetliner).

Beyond the CIA animation being misleading (and Wikipedia's summary of it inaccurate) that animation has since been critiqued by a former member of the NTSB's Eyewitness Group and two eyewitnesses whose observations were depicted by the CIA in their animation. This former investigator, together with these two eyewitnesses and myself, explain how that CIA video is inaccurate. Significantly, the CIA alleged that the eyewitnesses had changed their original testimony--that testimony conflicting with the CIA scenario. As you will hear if you watch the following point-by-point critique, the witnesses say that they never changed their testimony. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyluFVxqBlo (this link is just for reference in this request for Editor Assistance).

The current Wikipedia page on TWA Flight 800 contains inaccuracies and it is biased, but before making any corrections, I felt that contacting an experienced WikiPedia editor may be in order due to the controversial nature of this incident.

I look forward to hearing from someone willing to look into these issues.

Thank you,

Stalcup (talk) 13:07, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not seeing any evidence of a dispute in progress, so I don't think there's a particular need for the sort of dispute resolution being requested here. Stalcup, your first step should be to go to Talk:TWA Flight 800 with your concerns. You haven't done that, at least not recently (I see you did try to engage people there back almost 9 years ago, then stopped editing until just now). I haven't looked in depth other than to note the personal website you link on your userpage seems to be focused at "getting the truth out" about TWA Flight 800... so while I would normally suggest you be bold and try to improve the article, I will add a caveat that you should be very careful about inserting fringe material into that article, because it'll get removed, and rightly so. Some of what you're pointing out here seems to be fringe. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 15:44, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Mendaliv, thanks for looking back at my past effort. Was "getting the truth out" my language? If so, I can see how it could be misread. My goal then, as it is now, was to make that page accurate and maintain a NPOV. I'll take your advice by expressing my concerns on the Talk page, and I definitely will not insert any "fringe" material. I hope you may be willing to monitor my efforts on that page to help ensure no such material is inserted, and if possible, it would be helpful if you could provide any example of fringe material that you believe I have pointed out, so that I can specifically avoid that/those areas.

Stalcup (talk) 06:48, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tigrayans

Tigrayans (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - The long-standing title of the page was changed from "Tigray-Tigrinya" to "Tigrayans". Based on an n-gram analysis it was determined this was more used term. Tigrayans is however a reference to the people of a region (people of the Tigray region), not a culture group. According to analysis of a sample of sources focused on ethnic groups "Tigrinyas" is the more common label (>10 references on Google Books), while Tigre is second most common (Tigre is not used as it refers to a ethnic group). Tigrayan is third most common with limited use by some encyclopedias (approx. 3 on Google Books using it as the primary reference). Multiple rename requests have neared consensus but not achieved consensus. Need assistance to move forward. Merhawie (talk) 18:41, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Could you please provide some clarity on BLPPROD. Myself and another editor both prodded this as it doesn't have sources - Twitter, FB et al are not reliable sources. @Donottroll: However another editor disagrees and keeps removing the prod. Can you give some guidance on which approach is correct? Thanks Gbawden (talk) 06:18, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct about the sourcing, but once the PROD is removed by any editor for any reason (I guess, short of vandalism) the PROD process is over and the article must be nominated for deletion at Articles for Deletion. The process is a bit more cumbersome and can stretch out for several days, but it can't be stopped by an objecting editor. If you think the page should be deleted, go to AfD and follow the instructions there! Meanwhile I've removed the PROD template, because that process - for better or for worse - is no longer available for that article. I hope this helps. JohnInDC (talk) 10:53, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Geographic location question

Just wanted to know if this reversion of content is correct? Didn't have any problems in the past with [City, State], but now more and more users (I understand new users do this, but not the old ones...) start arguing about this and use [City], [State] instead. The main policies, to my knowledge, regarding this are WP:USPLACE, MOS:OVERLINK and WP:SEAOFBLUE. However, some people just ignore it and argue for no reason. Any thoughts would be appreciated. – Sabbatino (talk) 21:34, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've made a small mistake that requires a technical solution; I'd like to know how to enact that solution both to correct this mistake and for future reference.
I created the article Chief Justice of Indonesia and then linked it to the Indonesian language article for the Chief justice of their Supreme Court. However, they also have a Constitutional Court which also has a Chief Justice.
I need to separate the Indonesian language article for Chief Justice of the Supreme Court from the English language article (now a disambiguation page) Chief Justice of Indonesia so I can add it to the new English language article Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Indonesia. Does anybody know how I can do this? MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:15, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You need to edit the entry at Wikidata to do that. The easy way is, where you're on a page that links to the incorrect foreign language article, is to go to the "Languages" area on your left sidebar where the links are. There should be an icon that says "Edit links" or "Add links". Click that and follow the instructions. I've done this one for you. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 13:23, 20 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kanthapuram A. P. Aboobacker Musalyar

Now the Kanthapuram A. P. Aboobacker Musalyar page is under misusing, Welcome and revert to the Old version, I will be edit, cleanup and add third-parties. Please block these accounts User:Vasikhali and User:Nashar.Elaf form editing. • ArtsRescuer 09:25, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I remember removing a ton of uncited information from that article back in 2013; the citation tag had been sitting there for months. There also seems to be quite a bit of uncited information there now. What is the problem, and why are you coming to an editor assistance page to demand that other editors be blocked? MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:42, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Help with the content

I wanted someone to guide me over my content.

Also, I was trying for lice chat help but my server was banned which too much unprofessional.