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List of highest-grossing Indian films : Addition of a new source
Indian Express ,India Today Can these be added as reliable sources to make a change in the existing content here? —Ananth Sk (talk) 17:11 , 5th November 2016 (UTC)
Roopal Tyagi edit
Latest revision as of 04:56, 13 December 2016 (edit) (undo) (thank) Cyphoidbomb (talk | contribs) (Undid revision 754390582 by Detective RDS Good faith edit, but to random readers, it's unclear what this means. We don't use slashes WP:SLASH for the ambiguity they create. Are these different characters? Twins? Reincarnations, what?)
Reply:
@Cyphoidbomb:
Pari used to call herself as Bubbly and the lead Armaan as Bunty most of the time for fun. I believe for that you need to watch the show in the first place, to understand.
At least glad that you have no objection with my last edit on Sasural Simar Ka page (hopefully). But watch out, someone edited and placed wrong actress name for the character Vaidehi. Kajol Shrivastav is playing the character Vaidehi, not Deepika Singh. How did you miss that, I wonder !— Preceding unsigned comment added by Detective RDS (talk • contribs)
Alibabavum 40 Thirudargalum DYK
Alibabavum 40 Thirudargalum is currently a DYK nominee, nominated by me. I want it to appear on the main page on 17 January (the centenary of its lead actor), but the DYK process is severely lagging. Could you please see if I correctly followed the rules, or have something left to do? Kailash29792 (talk) 04:24, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- Just a gently reminder. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:46, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Happy New Year, Cyphoidbomb!
Cyphoidbomb,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Donner60 (talk) 09:39, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
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Ishq Hawa Mein
I think you're familiar with this one. Is "Cyber Power" linked to the farm? I initially thought it might be AwardPunjabi, but I think you and Ponyo know this better. Maybe GSS-1987 knows? I'm not filing an SPI as I don't know this farm, hoping one of you will if Ponyo doesn't get to it first. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 12:33, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- SpacemanSpiff, I'll check if I can find any evidence to link "Cyber Power" to AwardPunjabi or any other farm. Cheers – GSS (talk|c|em) 12:39, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- @SpacemanSpiff: I found some evidences to link "Cyber Power" to S..Yash and few more users (Sock farm AdnanAliAfzal):
- Cyber Power's first edit was to recreate Karan Deol which earlier created by S..Yash but this time Cyber Power made it a redirect and the use of Thanks is common in both users.
- with 4GFLY: Both user created thier userpage with Wikipedia Is My LiFe in bold.
- with Fly Up: The use of capital "I" when writing is ([1][2]).
- There are some more users who recreated S..Yash's work after his block. GSS (talk|c|em) 14:53, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- I'd noticed the Karan Deol thing, but didn't get a chance to look more in detail. Them's some good notes, GSS! The boldface on the userpage is odd. Also, they basically welcomed themself on their own talk page with the giant list of helpful links. Both the creation of the user page + the self-welcome look like standard sock efforts to hide their redlinks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:56, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, they always try to hide their redlinks and Cyber Power also has a tendency to move pages and creating articles about the children of Indian film actors same like previous socks. GSS (talk|c|em) 15:49, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- Including user 3OO per exactly the same behaviour as above e.g. creating user page with Wikipedia Is My Life (in slightly diffrent way My L!fe iS W!kipedia), recreated master's work Ahan Shetty as redirect and same behaviour in moving articles and creating redirect. GSS (talk|c|em) 17:56, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- I think we're going to need a CU here. Looking at some of the articles 3OO has edited, I found AAS-786 as well, who created Nadeem_Javed. @Ponyo: If you get a second, could you please look into this? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:18, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- And Ctrl A too. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:21, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- I notice some intersections with Mriduls.sharma, including at Firangi (2017 film) - article created by sock of Mriduls. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:25, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- The following accounts are Confirmed to each other:
- I've traced the accounts back to 4GFLY and Fly Up so you're looking at this master. They should all be blocked and their contribs nuked where appropriate.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:14, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Ponyo! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:26, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! Ponyo, So is there any need to apply G5 for the articles they created or you'll take care of that? GSS (talk|c|em) 04:58, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- GSS-1987 I think I got most of the article-articles. There were a shitload of redirects that may or may not need scrutiny. Some of them were weird--I doubt someone's going to use parentheses when searching for some of these people, but I don't know that all of them need to be deleted. Maybe I'll have a look tomorrow, or if you want to start flagging some, all the better. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:40, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- For this kind of nonsense Special:Nuke is your friend, I've done that for the remaining stuff from Cyber Power while I've handled the other sock stuff individually. —SpacemanSpiff 05:43, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Oh! got it and everything looks clean and tidy now. Thank you – GSS (talk|c|em) 06:13, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- For this kind of nonsense Special:Nuke is your friend, I've done that for the remaining stuff from Cyber Power while I've handled the other sock stuff individually. —SpacemanSpiff 05:43, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- GSS-1987 I think I got most of the article-articles. There were a shitload of redirects that may or may not need scrutiny. Some of them were weird--I doubt someone's going to use parentheses when searching for some of these people, but I don't know that all of them need to be deleted. Maybe I'll have a look tomorrow, or if you want to start flagging some, all the better. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:40, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! Ponyo, So is there any need to apply G5 for the articles they created or you'll take care of that? GSS (talk|c|em) 04:58, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Ponyo! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:26, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Fatmagul
Just saw your message ob my talk page, and yeah I think we should defiantly start a discussion to end this dispute. Sammy.joseph (talk)
Duplicate
Hi Admin!
This account was created by me (for me), but I forgot it's password. I then made this account (which I am using), and want to continue using this. I recently tried to recover that through my email address, but now I think I don't want to use it... Is there any way to delete that account? (My edits here in early 2015 were reverted by you, and on that time I was very very weak to understand Wiki) Please, I don't want to be trapped in "sockpuppet case".
Sorry for my weak English (as I had said earlier too), and thanks for always being helpful! M. Billoo 20:35, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- Hi M.Billoo2000 Thanks for the disclosure. I see edits from MBill00 in December 2016. Are you sure you've forgotten the password? You are allowed to have multiple accounts so long as you aren't using them for any disruptive reason. Some disruptive reasons would be: vandalism, edit-warring, voting from both accounts, harassment, etc. Legitimate reasons to use another account might be to edit on a public computer or a public network. You might consider putting Template:User alternative account name on the user pages, just so everything is out in the open. Being open about stuff is the best policy. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:26, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, I have forgotten password, again after recovering. (I don't know why I thought to put a hard one there, currently working on easy passwords.) The userpage I had created saying "My nickname is Bill..." was just a fun I was trying... But now I don't want to use it, I want to be (some kind of) "expert user" from this account. Also, recently I asked for help on help desk (keeping hidden the December's edits), but nothing happened. Thanks for your kind response! M. Billoo 21:50, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
You have blocked this editor (only for 31 hours, conceded) for what appears to be a single edit, a section blanking in an article, performed six days ago. Am I missing something? --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 22:21, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Anthony Bradbury, the user blanked the plots section at Dangal (film) once, twice, thrice, I warned them here with a very clear explanation for why it was inappropriate, they blanked their talk page and then blanked it again. I didn't see the requirement to climb up the warning tree with them, since they were obviously doing something that was opposed by other editors. Hope that helps. Regards and happy new year, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:10, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Anthony Bradbury: - Had to edit above, so I'm re-pinging. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:11, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- My error. I had a long day and clearly missed seeing the other reversions.--Anthony Bradbury"talk" 16:01, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Dangal (film)
Cyphoidbomb I found you active on Dangal (film) so I need your assistance. Please take a look at this ticket regarding cinematography credit in the article. GSS (talk|c|em) 13:25, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- @GSS-1987: I don't believe I have access to OTRS. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:26, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Okay, so the customer claiming to be the cinematographer of the film but he believes that the credit for cinematography is wrongly credited to Sethu Sriram (who is a cinematographer from the South India film industry) whereas it should be credited to Setu (Satyajit Pande). I did a little research but can't find anything in reliable source expect this which mentioned his name "Satyajit Pande" as a cinematographer of Dangal but a search result for Sethu Sriram as cinematographer of Dangal shows many reliable sources. As per my request, he attached some sources which included his name as a cinematographer but I'm not sure if those are reliable [3][4][5][6][7][8][9]. GSS (talk|c|em) 17:12, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- I don't remember what was on screen when I saw it but [10] [11] seem to support Sethu Sriram. —SpacemanSpiff 17:47, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- even me I think better to wait till I call the production house tomorrow for the confirmation. The customer also said that he shot Taare Zameen Par where he was credited as Setu. GSS (talk|c|em) 18:05, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- @GSS-1987: Looks like the change was made without explanation here by Josephjames.me. Joseph, can you please shed any light into where you got the information on who the cinematographer for Dangal was? You made this change 2 months before the film was released, so WP:CRYSTAL would have been a concern then. Setu was originally added here, but without a reference, and it's pointing to an unreleated article, so that's problematic. I'm inclined to change it, since we don't usually have people contesting something like this unless the information is wrong. My guess is that maybe Joseph made an assumptio/span>]] (talkn about who "Setu" was. I'm a bit confused, because the Reuters source that Spiff mentions above says very clearly that they updated the article to reflect that Sethu Sriram is the cinematographer, but then I also see this source which covers a social event and indicates Pande as DP. Why don't I remove the content and add a note that it needs to be verified from the onscreen credits? I'm just concerned that lazy journalists have used Wikipedia for their information and that we've become our own reference. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:12, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- I don't remember what was on screen when I saw it but [10] [11] seem to support Sethu Sriram. —SpacemanSpiff 17:47, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Okay, so the customer claiming to be the cinematographer of the film but he believes that the credit for cinematography is wrongly credited to Sethu Sriram (who is a cinematographer from the South India film industry) whereas it should be credited to Setu (Satyajit Pande). I did a little research but can't find anything in reliable source expect this which mentioned his name "Satyajit Pande" as a cinematographer of Dangal but a search result for Sethu Sriram as cinematographer of Dangal shows many reliable sources. As per my request, he attached some sources which included his name as a cinematographer but I'm not sure if those are reliable [3][4][5][6][7][8][9]. GSS (talk|c|em) 17:12, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Yes! you are right and it's really sad that some lazy journalists write what they see on Wikipedia without doing their own research. I found these 2 videos on UTV Motion Pictures official channel. In this video at 3:09 the closing credit screen mentioned "SETU" as the DOP and in this video at 3:07 you can actually see him standing with the cast next to Girish Kulkarni (first from right). GSS (talk|c|em) 04:21, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
- Cyphoidbomb do you think the above information is enough to include the name of the DOP as SETU? GSS (talk|c|em) 04:49, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- @GSS-1987: I think it's reasonable to change it to include Pande. I do wish they'd have included his full name in the trailer credits, because I fear this issue will come up again, and it's not really clear who Setu is. But I certainly won't object. You planning to use Template:Cite AV media? I would consider it just as a preventative measure. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:53, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- Cyphoidbomb do you think the above information is enough to include the name of the DOP as SETU? GSS (talk|c|em) 04:49, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- Yes! you are right and it's really sad that some lazy journalists write what they see on Wikipedia without doing their own research. I found these 2 videos on UTV Motion Pictures official channel. In this video at 3:09 the closing credit screen mentioned "SETU" as the DOP and in this video at 3:07 you can actually see him standing with the cast next to Girish Kulkarni (first from right). GSS (talk|c|em) 04:21, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
- I think it's better if we use only SETU for now same as credited in the film and I notice he was also credited with the same name in Charas (2004 film), Taare Zameen Par and Dedh Ishqiya. The use of Template:Cite AV media will be the better option to avoid any issue in the future. GSS (talk|c|em) 07:19, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- I think I read about him and his work on Dangal in an interview. Can't find it now though :( — JosephJames 13:34, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
@Josephjames.me: I don't know when and where you read that interview because I tried a lot but failed to find anything and your changes were also unsourced so I think it's fair enough to make changes now as Cyphoidbomb said above we don't usually have people contesting something like this unless the information is wrong. The customer emailed again and he is ready to provide more evidence if needed. GSS (talk|c|em) 10:12, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- I just found this source in Business Standard originally published by ANI News yesterday mentioned his full name as Satyajit Pande. GSS (talk|c|em) 05:22, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
- @GSS-1987: Since Joseph hasn't responded with any further information, maybe it's wise to add Pande's name. The alternative would be to present it as disputed, with both names listed, until we get a more definitive confirmation. But again, I think it's probably more likely than not that Pande is the right guy. If not, well, joke's on us. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:28, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
- I think as for now it's better to add just Setu to keep a safe side and if in future we get to see anything from the officials we can add the full name of the DoP whether Pande or Sriram. GSS (talk|c|em) 05:47, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
- Cyphoidbomb, Do you want me to make the changes as per the film credits and close the ticket or you think we need to wait a little more? GSS (talk|c|em) 11:22, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- @GSS-1987: I defer to your judgment. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:21, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- Since I'm studying on this case I watched some official theatrical trailers of their films and I notice Sriram never credited as Setu but Pande always credited as Setu and I found one of his interview with Indian Express where he confirmed his full name as Satyajit Pande and the customer also sound very confident about his claim. So, I'm going to add Satyajit Pande using Template:Cite AV media and also will cite another reference to support his full name. I hope this is ok with you. GSS (talk|c|em) 16:57, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- @GSS-1987: Okay... Please go ahead. — JosephJames 17:26, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- Since I'm studying on this case I watched some official theatrical trailers of their films and I notice Sriram never credited as Setu but Pande always credited as Setu and I found one of his interview with Indian Express where he confirmed his full name as Satyajit Pande and the customer also sound very confident about his claim. So, I'm going to add Satyajit Pande using Template:Cite AV media and also will cite another reference to support his full name. I hope this is ok with you. GSS (talk|c|em) 16:57, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- @GSS-1987: I defer to your judgment. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:21, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- Cyphoidbomb, Do you want me to make the changes as per the film credits and close the ticket or you think we need to wait a little more? GSS (talk|c|em) 11:22, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- I think as for now it's better to add just Setu to keep a safe side and if in future we get to see anything from the officials we can add the full name of the DoP whether Pande or Sriram. GSS (talk|c|em) 05:47, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
- @GSS-1987: Since Joseph hasn't responded with any further information, maybe it's wise to add Pande's name. The alternative would be to present it as disputed, with both names listed, until we get a more definitive confirmation. But again, I think it's probably more likely than not that Pande is the right guy. If not, well, joke's on us. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:28, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
- Done Thank you very much! for your kind cooperation. GSS (talk|c|em) 17:30, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Surprisingly I just found this new ticket from akpfilms.com to confirm their DoP as Setu (Satyajit Pande) for Dangal and also Taare Zameen Par and they request to make necessary corrections which we have already corrected but I'm going to add Setu as well same as they mentioned in their message to avoid any misunderstandings. GSS (talk|c|em) 10:25, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
LDMaster1998 again
Hi Cyphoidbomb,
Katniss here, letting you know that LDMaster1998 is back off of his second block (both from you) continuing to add more unsourced, disruptive material to the same articles he was previously blocked for disrupting, in one case deleting other air dates while adding his fake "2017 TBA" ones. Diffs: 1 2 3 4. Thanks and happy new year! Katniss ♥ 19:50, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- @KatnissEverdeen: I've indeffed them since I don't get the sense that they understand what they're doing here. If they choose to communicate I'd consider unblocking them. Thanks for the info. Happy new year. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:11, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Questions
I think you're still active, so I'm going to ask you a few questions if you don't mind. Man, a lot of this stuff that seemed so obvious now seems either complicated or in shades in gray. An obvious sock of LTA vandal Jaredgk2008 just edited through the extended confirmed protection on Howie Schwab. I've worked on this article somewhat, mostly just to add a few references. It's OK if I block this sock, right? It's clear BLP-related vandalism, and this is a sleeper account made solely to vandalize ECP BLPs. There's another sock that I've found. He's contested the speedy deletion of two obscure articles created by the sockmaster, and he's restored a few of the sockmaster's reverted edits. Thing is, I was involved in arguing for this sockmaster's block at ANI, and I reverted a few of the edits from both the sock (before I was sure it was a sock) and the master. What about this guy? Can I block this sock? Argh. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:04, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
- @NinjaRobotPirate: I've debated this very thing myself for months and took many steps to solicit lectures from other admins at AN and in other venues about 'involved', and few people really stepped up to help codify what being involved means. I'm guessing they'd prefer to wait until I screw up then lecture me about "what you ought've done is..." The general sense I get though, is that clear vandalism is fine. I'm of the opinion (and this means that I'll come to your defense when you're facing your first witch hunt at AN) that whether or not you participated in chasing a disruptive user before, if that disruptive user is back in violation of a block, block 'em. If you're confident that any other admin would have arrived at the same conclusion, I'd say go ahead. The whole point of getting the tools is that you're helping to take some of the pressure off other admins and to facilitate your usual stuff. Or, if you're not comfortable, you can always ask someone else until you get more comfortable. "Hey, I miiiight be involved here, can you take a look at this guy..."
- Yeah, you're right about the shades of gray. My mantra has been that it's my job to enforce community guidelines and that sort of crap. If someone's editing way off base and they're unresponsive to discussion, then I'll probably wind up blocking them. I think NeilN (who has described himself as very conservative when it comes to involved) told me once that if you've expressed an opinion about content or a topic, that you're probably involved. I believe he even suggested that I try to avoid community discussions, say at WikiProject Television, because being part of the discussion process might make me involved. (At least I *think* he said that...) I don't subscribe to that type of rigidity, because everything can boil down to a content opinion. "My opinion is that you are misusing the
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parameter of the TV infobox... My opinion is that mentioning in detail salacious gossip about this actress's romantic life is totally inappropriate." I dunno. It's my job to wrangle the encyclopedia into some semblance of a shape, and I feel that in many ways, this is exactly what IAR is about. To give you an example, I've got this Campaign of Ignorance I've been dealing with for months. Editors going out of their way to remove actual real-world information, misuse parameters, edit contrary to any number of MOS guidelines, using bizarre interpretive language like "Second parallel female Antagonist"--anyway, it's been nuts. Am I embroiled in content disputes here? Is it a misuse of the tools to prevent these ignorant editors from fucking up the encyclopedia? You're a good guy with a conscience, so I know you'll wrangle with this as I have. I say go with your gut. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:40, 5 January 2017 (UTC)- Yeah, there isn't really much in the way of instruction on Wikipedia. You get something akin to "try not to screw up too badly, and here's a few pointers. By the way, you can ignore all those pointers. But if you ignore them, we might lynch you." I was just reading through that Campaign page, actually. I hadn't seen those issues before – fascinating stuff. I've seen "secondary antagonist" but never "second parallel female antagonist". I used to search Wikipedia for key phrases, such as "it should be noted" and "critical acclaim by critics". It got to be a bit depressing to make so little headway, though. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:20, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
- @NinjaRobotPirate: That's why you got to get AWB! Although sometimes you wouldn't want to just swap out the phrasing, like if it were within the context of a quotation. I kinda wish AWB would just highlight selected phrases so that I could look at them and make the call. I did get rid of tons of "passed away" (instead of "died") instances with AWB. And yes, it's some weird shit that in Indian articles people feel compelled to tell you who is male and female. She's the lead FEMALE character? You don't say. Anyway, definitely read WP:INVOLVED and see if you can work out some kind of moral behavior set that seems convincingly in keeping with that. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:30, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
- I was going to request access to AWB, but then I got distracted by other stuff. I'll probably get around to it some day. The whole "female" thing is perplexing to me, too. I'm guessing it's someone who really, really likes to be explicit about stuff. There was one gun-spotter who would go through dozens of articles and describe every firearm in loving detail, especially in plot summaries. I don't know what happened to him, but I'm glad it died down. The LTA vandal got blocked by a fast-acting admin, so that's one less problem. I think I'll just block his next sock on sight. It seems uncontroversial to me. The other case is still tough for me to figure out. I'm thinking it's alright, but I'll ask a CU for advice first. Thanks for the help. I do feel a bit less overwhelmed and confused by it all. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:01, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
- @NinjaRobotPirate: That's why you got to get AWB! Although sometimes you wouldn't want to just swap out the phrasing, like if it were within the context of a quotation. I kinda wish AWB would just highlight selected phrases so that I could look at them and make the call. I did get rid of tons of "passed away" (instead of "died") instances with AWB. And yes, it's some weird shit that in Indian articles people feel compelled to tell you who is male and female. She's the lead FEMALE character? You don't say. Anyway, definitely read WP:INVOLVED and see if you can work out some kind of moral behavior set that seems convincingly in keeping with that. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:30, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, there isn't really much in the way of instruction on Wikipedia. You get something akin to "try not to screw up too badly, and here's a few pointers. By the way, you can ignore all those pointers. But if you ignore them, we might lynch you." I was just reading through that Campaign page, actually. I hadn't seen those issues before – fascinating stuff. I've seen "secondary antagonist" but never "second parallel female antagonist". I used to search Wikipedia for key phrases, such as "it should be noted" and "critical acclaim by critics". It got to be a bit depressing to make so little headway, though. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:20, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi! Am not sure if you have notice it or not, but the annual editing competition Wikipedia:WikiCup has started and the signup is open till 5 February 2017. The cup encourages content improvement and tries to make editing on Wikipedia more fun; and it did that for me last year. I have hence decided to drop this friendly note hoping that you would take part. Although the signup ends on 5th Feb, the earlier you sign in the earlier you start scoring. Happy New Year and Happy Editing! §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:51, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
Need your eagle eye
Happy New Year, Cyphoid! We've got an IP editor 24.197.246.91 who persists in adding Thomas as the last name of the Harold Finch character from Person of Interest in the character's article (see Harold Finch (Person of Interest). From what I can gather, he's gotten a fuzzy screenshot of the death certificate of Finch's father, and decided the placement of the name Thomas (which in dialogue is the father's first name) on the death certificate we can only partially see indicates that is Finch's last name. (He's also pushing the edit on the Wikia site as well, where the image can be seen: [12]; the admin there has also told him that the image is not sufficient to assume the Finch's real last name is Thomas). Trouble is, full images of Iowa death certificates of the period show the last name of a decedent are under the word Death on the certificate, and the first name is under Certificate, making the image consistent with dialogue identifying father's first name as Thomas, but the image is so fuzzy it's not reliable, regardless. Anyhoo, he's been reverted by at least two editors, but has reverted five times in the past 36 hours or so. He's gone quiet for the night, but I expect will begin again before long. If he does, it might be helpful to protect the article for a short time to make the point that the image isn't a reliable source. Would you mind casting an eye over the situation, and see what might be the best move? I could go to WP:RFPP of course, but that can be time consuming and this has gone on long enough. --Drmargi (talk) 16:05, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Drmargi: It hasn't happened in the last 8 hours. I'm inclined to wait for one more. I've dropped a warning on their talk page. If it happens again, I'll block them. If they hop IPs, then I'll semi-protect. I prefer protecting only if there are multiple IPs involved. Why penalize everybody, y'know? Happy new year! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:25, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- That seems reasonable. The least draconian approach to getting the problem solved is all that's needed. That's why I like to come to you with these issues: you understand the TV articles and take the least disruptive approach to them. --Drmargi (talk) 21:32, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:34, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- Awwwwww.... Back to reality: the Arizona IP is back at User:2600:8800:3080:8370:49AC:70AD:8B91:B548. See Huell Howser and California's Gold. Ugh. --Drmargi (talk) 01:36, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Drmargi: - Handled. Thanks. Blocked 1 week. Most edits reverted. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:43, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- That was quick. I love the exercises in insanity on Wikipedia. He expects a different outcome every time. The shame is he does do a certain amount of good editing, but it's so lost in the nonsense. --Drmargi (talk) 02:41, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- I know it's satisfying to try to get to the "this guy's an X!" answer, but we deal with so many different types of people here that it's so hard to figure anything out and even if we do, what does it really matter? Maybe he's got a limited number of creative/intellectual outlets? Maybe there's a cognitive impairment affecting his ability to understand certain stuff? We can't assume everybody's equipped with the same skills that we might all take for granted. The best we can do is to try to be understanding, try to communicate, and if that doesn't go well, we ramp up the admin crap to protect the project. I mean, some of his/her edits are not bad, it's just when they turn off the main road that they become problematic. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:19, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- That was quick. I love the exercises in insanity on Wikipedia. He expects a different outcome every time. The shame is he does do a certain amount of good editing, but it's so lost in the nonsense. --Drmargi (talk) 02:41, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Drmargi: - Handled. Thanks. Blocked 1 week. Most edits reverted. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:43, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- Awwwwww.... Back to reality: the Arizona IP is back at User:2600:8800:3080:8370:49AC:70AD:8B91:B548. See Huell Howser and California's Gold. Ugh. --Drmargi (talk) 01:36, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
- Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:34, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- That seems reasonable. The least draconian approach to getting the problem solved is all that's needed. That's why I like to come to you with these issues: you understand the TV articles and take the least disruptive approach to them. --Drmargi (talk) 21:32, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
You're more charitable than I was (blush!) but I think I'm still coming off the drama with Twobells and all his accusations. And you're right; there are a lot of reasons why editors "don't get it" so to speak. It's nice of have the problem solved, at least for now. Given his previous persistence, I suspect he'll be back in time. --Drmargi (talk) 22:37, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
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Phoenix IP is back again at 2600:8800:3080:8370:3935:92E4:DF96:F48D. Should we be opening SPI reports on him, do you think? --Drmargi (talk) 01:27, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Drmargi: It might be a good idea to log some of this in the MisterAnthony SPI, or at least to start an LTA report somewhere. Would you be willing to get this started? I've tried to tag my blocks with MisterAnthony / 24.251.24.185 or Phoenix, Arizona, so searching here for some of those terms might help with some of the busy work. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:03, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
- And here he just does a lot of weird crap from butchering a reference, to arbitrarily lower-casing some of the templates, to blatantly ignoring the referencing requirement of
|other_names=
. In other words: the usual... Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:06, 10 January 2017 (UTC)- That IP and another one were blocked overnight. Is it still worth doing? Given he seems to get himself blocked quickly; LTA seems more reasonable. I just can't help but think we should get those IPs documented. --Drmargi (talk) 20:32, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
- Holy, cow! I take a breather while my laptop charges and all hell breaks loose! --Drmargi (talk) 09:19, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- That IP and another one were blocked overnight. Is it still worth doing? Given he seems to get himself blocked quickly; LTA seems more reasonable. I just can't help but think we should get those IPs documented. --Drmargi (talk) 20:32, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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Another Sage of the Six Paths sock
Boy, this guy is persistent.[13][14][15] —Farix (t | c) 18:20, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- I'll stop, but I want to make a deal. 2601:8C:4000:1177:20C9:4646:67BA:9CA3 (talk) 18:33, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- I don't make deals with liars.[16][17] Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:35, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Muppets LTA
Hi Cyphoidbomb. This isn't my usual area, but what would it take to get User:Cyphoidbomb/Muppets LTA listed at Wikipedia:Long-term abuse? I keep bumping into this/these person/persons. Thanks! 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 17:33, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
- Hi 78.26, I moved it to Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Muppets LTA. So the short answer is: It wouldn't take much. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:06, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
- Ooh, I like the easy stuff. Thanks! 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 18:37, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
- @78.26: I went the extra mile and created a shortcut to the LTA. Check out WP:MUPPETSLTA. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:33, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
- Ooh, I like the easy stuff. Thanks! 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 18:37, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Sorry for that and Thanks for Pointing
Its a request please Help me to save this Article .This deletion request and Consensus is out of nowhere. The Article is genuine and is verified too. Please Help Me Saving it. Thank You. HNGM (talk • contribs) 00:36, 11 January 2017 (IST)
- @HNGM: I nominated it for deletion because I don't believe it warrants a unique article. Therefore, I have no interest in trying to save it. At best it should have been a single sentence at Comedy Nights with Kapil. Not everything in the world deserves a unique article. We have notability criteria for articles. See also our general notability guideline. I don't blame you for not understanding our guidelines as a new user when you created the article, but this is sometimes the effect of creating articles without having any experience or researching how to go about it. Just a thought. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:37, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
User:PlutoniumBackToTheFuture
I have a strong belief that User:PlutoniumBackToTheFuture may be a sockpuppet because of how familiar he is with editing, despite having made his first edit in October 2016. Could you please look into this? Kailash29792 (talk) 05:29, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Kailash29792: Any idea who I might be looking for? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:50, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- Possibly Kichappan or AniceMathew. Kailash29792 (talk) 13:54, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi Admin! I want to complain about unexplained removal of content on Arijit Singh discography by 503hsuya, who was also warned on removing content from Arijit Singh's biography. (Is this complain allowed or not?) Thanks! M. Billoo 14:39, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
- Hi M.Billoo2000, if it happens a few times, you are encouraged to contact and warn the user yourself before notifying an admin. See WP:WARN for a list of the various templates you could use. You'll notice that they the warnings are arranged from left to right according to severity. Typically we start off with the lower level warnings, which are a little friendlier, and escalate if the behavior continues. Each template should allow you to include an article title as well as space for any additional comments, if relevant. Click on the template you're interested in for more info. I've warned this user for you. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:21, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for your kind response and for always being helpful! M. Billoo 23:19, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Box office gross for Dangal
SalmanKhan243 (talk) 17:03, 16 January 2017 (UTC)Sir, sorry for not providing links, but the amount given in BollywoodHungama is less than the actual gross, and according to the website koimoi, which provides the box office gross for films, Dangal has already grossed more than 700 crore rupees. Please check it out. Thanks. SalmanKhan243 (talk) 17:03, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
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Let me edit list of highest grossing indian films there are so many wrongs there i can correct them. Ñóbßý øoooó (talk) 17:22, 16 January 2017 (UTC)