User talk:Jobas

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Ein as-Sahla

Just to correct myself, the source was not the 2008 consensus, but an article on the village mentioned in the article. The village is part of a single municipality and only the population of the entire municipality, which has another two villages is shown in the ministry's list.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 14:38, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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History of Western civilization

What is exactly your problem? The sources mention explicitly the Jewish influence, Judaism is a general definition the also includes 'culture' and that's the correct term for the article. Your game trying to stick to the source word by word is incorrect, let alone hypocrite as none of the sources mention the term 'civilization' for Rome or Greece (don't even mention Rome) for instance. As long as other cultures mention geographic origins Ancient Israel should be mentioned as well. Infantom (talk) 11:38, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Help me pls

I saw that you like my discussions but I am alone and I need support in the discussions, could you help me? --FrankCesco26 (talk) 18:42, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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May 2017

Wikipedia's technical logs indicate that this user account has been or may be used abusively. It has been blocked indefinitely from editing to prevent abuse.

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Doug Weller talk 13:00, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Jobas (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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I apologize for editing while logged out and also using another account and am requesting that I be unblocked in accordance with WP:ROPE. I will not repeat these errors again and am thankful that this block allowed me to reflect upon my actions. I have made several positive contributions to Wikipedia (over 23,364 edits) and ask for forgiveness this one time. I appreciate you considering this request. Respectfully, Jobas (talk) 16:53, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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You've done some good work here, but this is pretty serious stuff. All the more so because you've been around a long time and should have known better. All things considered I'm not absolutely opposed to giving you a second chance, but I'd probably be more sympathetic if the request came after a reasonable period of time. I'm not going to decline the request for now, but if you came back in a month with no evidence of block evasion we might possibly commute the block with the clear understanding that any repetition would end with an indef from which I seriously doubt you'd get another reprieve. Ping Doug Weller for his thoughts as the blocking admin. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:29, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Ad Orientem, thanks for your reply and for your faith in me. If you think that I need a one-month break from Wikipedia, I totally understand and would be happy to apply for an unblock at that time. Respectfully, Jobas (talk) 17:37, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I do think some time-off would be best. It is extremely unusual for someone caught socking to be given short term blocks or unblocked quickly. This is a very serious no-no. That said, I am not going to decline your unblock request until I've heard from Doug Weller, whose input I think is important as the blocking admin. Of course there is nothing stopping you from withdrawing your unblock request, and coming back in a month or two. IMHO such a request would be more likely to get a sympathetic hearing at that point. But I do want to stress that any block evasion would likely torpedo any hope of getting your block lifted. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:36, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I will be traveling over the next couple of days so I may not respond quickly to anything addressed to me though I will try to check in briefly at least once a day. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:39, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ad Orientem: Take a look at Talk:English people. Socks chatting to themselves. Personally I'd argue that a month's time off at least is needed, and more than that, a topic ban from religious topics as that seems to be the focus of the socking and I'm not convinced that Jobas can resist the temptation to sock at those articles. Doug Weller talk 12:26, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly User:Jobas' recent conduct of using sockpuppets has been deplorable. However, I'm not convinced that a topic ban is in order. User:Jobas has done some fantastic work on religion-related articles, such as creating Christian culture and Christian attitudes towards science, in addition to expanding existing articles, such as the one about Religion in Asia. I support defining User:Jobas' current block as being two months, rather than being an indefinite one. During this time, User:Jobas is prohibited from creating a new account or editing with an IP address. After he is unblocked, he should be aware that any violation of Wikipedia's sockpuppet policy will result in another block of a longer duration. Keeping in mind both the nature of the offense, as well as User:Jobas' ten year investment in the project and relatively clean block log during this time, I believe that this is a good solution. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam^Talk 19:17, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A blocked editor is by definition not allowed either to create new accounts or to edit as an IP. I do not suggest for one moment that Jobas has done so. My comment is simply to clarify any possible confusion which may be caused by the edit above from Anupam, which could be seen as showing a lack of understanding in the meaning of a block. --Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 19:36, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks User:Anthony Bradbury, I knew that but highlighted it simply because the reason User:Jobas was blocked concerned editing from other accounts and IP addresses. With regards, Anupam^Talk 19:38, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment only: I have no opinion on this block as I am not aware of the details, but I would like to point out the number of edits quoted is massively inflated because of the bizarre and obfuscating editing history which seems to involve adding one character and then changing it multiple times. I have no idea why except it inflates the number of edits, such as this Mramoeba (talk) 21:26, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I had a technical problem and user:Nyttend said: " ... but when you have more than 100,000 edits on more than 50 wikis in more than 5 years of editing, you're not going to be doing some silly chain of self-reversion for nefarious purposes ... "; I have made a several positive contributions to Wikipedia (over 100,000 edits) on more than 50 wikis and in more than 10 years of editing. Respectfully, Jobas (talk) 22:05, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]