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National Socialism

National Socialism (AKA Nazism) needs to be mentioned on this page, at least in some capacity. It was called socialism, the Nazis themselves referred to it as socialism, prominent Nazis frequently talked favorably about socialism, Hitler himself based many of his political ideas on socialist ideas and talked about his philosophy as being a fusion of both the left and the right, numerous similarities have been noted between national socialism and contemporary socialist ideologies like Stalinism (in fact, there's a whole article about this), and national socialism itself was an attempt to make a nationalist form of socialism. National Socialism was one of the most prominent brands of socialism in the early 20th century, and while it differed in many ways from Marxist conceptions of socialism, this page does not exclude much less prominent socialist ideologies that were not adopted by major powers like Nazi Germany.

The Nazis were very hostile towards the communists (and vice-versa), but they perceived their version of socialism as the "true" version, as is common in various schisms. But it isn't really Wikipedia's job to take a side in such cases, generally speaking.

| I put a bit about it in the history section, as it was a very prominent branch in the 1930s and 40s before it was more or less destroyed and discredited by World War II and the Holocaust, but another user reverted it on the basis of it not being socialism. Given that they reverted it, I felt it was necessary to discuss it here on the talk page. Titanium Dragon (talk) 06:38, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Roman Catholic communion rite"

In Protestant England, the word communism was too culturally and aurally close to the Roman Catholic communion rite; hence, English atheists denoted themselves socialists.

This sentence doesn't make sense to me. The Church of England also uses the word "communion". If anything, the more "Catholic" term for it is Eucharist, but the CoE uses that too (though more often in the High Church). Hairy Dude (talk) 10:46, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2017

Hello.On the subject of The Czechoslovak invasion, on August 21 1968,you quoted the opposing communist parties of France and Italy but nothing about Nicolae Ceausescu's speech in front of the Romanian people,condemning the invasion. The Socialist Republic of Romania openly opposed the U.S.S.R. invasion of Czechoslovakia. Thank you. 

  rvalahu Rvalahu (talk) 14:13, 7 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Nihlus 15:23, 7 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Socialism

This Wikipedia article is the most unreliable definition of socialism I have ever seen. The definition is very simple and Nazism was socialism too. 1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods 2a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state 3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done.

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