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Ireland

Ireland is a predominantly light-haired country! 36% have dark brown and darker hair, 31% have light brown hair, 10% have red hair, 23% have blonde hair mainly of golden shades. This translate that 64% have light hair (non-dark brown/black) is similar to that of Northern Germany. Furthermore more than 80% of Irish have blue or green eyes and 76% have very fair skin types (I/II). They are palest-skinned of all Europeans.

Italy and Sardinia

First of all where are the sources? I think those Italian datas are based on a research done by a military doctor called ridolfo livi on conscripted soldiers born in 1863, not by Biasutti, that wasn't a doctor or ananthropoligist, but a geographer. correct it! Sardinia's datas are wrong infact blondism in Sardinia range by 2.4% in the south, and from 2.4% to 4.9% in the north, according to livi's study brought back by biasutti in xxi century, in the book "le razze e i popoli della terra". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daygum (talk • contribs)

Why are Veneto, Friuli, Valle d'Aosta and Bolzano given as the only examples of 'northern and central regions' of Italy? All four are in the far north of the country, and are not 'central' by any stretch of the imagination!213.127.210.95 (talk) 16:34, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How about adding a symbolism and meanings behind different hair colours, please?

Iamnofool6 (talk) 05:22, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Buddhacarita

@Editguy111: point out which specific text in Buddhacharita claims Brahmins were blonde and blue eyed.

@Joshua Jonathan: can you address this issue? you have more knowledge about Buddhist texts. His source is from rather controversial figure Gendün Chöphel, who is not a historian.

Source Problems for the The Southern Europe section of the Folklore & Mythology section.

(Novoneiro (talk) 17:25, 24 September 2016 (UTC)) I just checked the Internet Archive for any mention of Pindar describing Athena as "fair-haired", and could not find it, and there is no source cited. However, the Muses of Apollo are described as "fair-haired" in the First Pythian Ode. Bacchus is also called fair-haired in the Seventh Isthmian Ode. But it is possible that I may have missed something.[reply]

Also, the source: Myers, John Linton. Who Were the Greeks? University of California Press, 1967, is cited for the other Greek gods, but I just checked the University of Cal website, and nothing came up for this book in their archives. However, it does appear on Amazon under a different publisher. Therefore, the page numbers cited may not be accurate either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Novoneiro (talk • contribs) 17:25, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Britain

What's the percentage of light brown/blond hair in Britain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nero011 (talk • contribs) 10:58, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

For the east coast of Britain it's 60%, there are a lot of sources but most revert back to same source which is the 'Blonde Map of Europe'. [1], [2], [3]. Zarcadia (talk) 19:29, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relation to age - Recent change to show up to 16% natural blond is based on a citation in an article that has not been proven.

As blond hair tends to turn brunette with age, natural blond hair is rare. Natural blond hair is rare in adulthood, with claims of the world's population ranging from 2% naturally blond[35][self-published source] to 16 percent.[36]

I have searched and searched and cannot find a single source other than the article cited on this entry that shows up to 16% of the world being naturally blond in adulthood. Sixxgirl77 (talk) 17:07, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Blond, not light brown

Since this article is about blond, I think the map should be removed; light brown counts as brown. Melaneas (talk) 18:06, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Too many pictures of classical representations

I never thought I would be saying this, but this article clearly has way to many pictures of classical sculptures and paintings depicting blonds. There are thirteen rows of pictures. Over half the article is a photo gallery. I will be clearing out some of the less notable depictions and depictions where the blond hair is not clearly visible or easily discernable to the naked eye. --Katolophyromai (talk) 22:13, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I went in and cleared out a whole bunch of images where the blond hair could not easily be seen without clicking on the image to enlarge it. I may remove a few more images in the future because there are still a lot of them, but now the number of images is not too terribly outrageous. --Katolophyromai (talk) 22:49, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Katolophyromai, thanks for this and this. Yes, some editors need to familiarize themselves with WP:Gallery. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 06:20, 27 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

platinum blond currently redirects here. This needs a hatnote. Please add:

"platinum blond" redirects here. Not to be confused with Platinum Blonde.

{{redirect-distinguish|platinum blond|Platinum Blonde}}

-- 65.94.42.131 (talk) 11:23, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 11:56, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Swedish Blonde

It's One Of My Favorite Natural Hair Colors. LaShondaFelton01 (talk) 00:34, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It is unclear what changes you wish to be made to the article. --Katolophyromai (talk) 17:06, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Blondes in Asia

Where it says "From the times of the Russian Tsardom of the 17th century through the Soviet Union rule in the 20th century, many ethnic Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, Poles, and Germans were settled in or exiled en masse to Siberia and Central Asia." please remove Ukrainians from the list. Why? Because Ukrainians are never blond/e. The only white people (w/ red, brown, blond/e hair that is) you may have seen whose nationality happens to be "Ukrainian" are either Poles, Russians, Hungarians, Jews or even Tatars. Ukrainians are descended from Turkic tribes, such as Cumans, Torks, Berendeis and Pechenegs, which were all brunet/te/s and of Mongoloid race. After the Holodomor many Russians were moved into Ukraine in order to replace the ones Stalin starved to death. Therefore all the blondes you see in Ukraine are not ethnically Ukrainian. You can see plenty of white people in Africa, for example, due to European colonialism, but that doesn't mean the minority of Caucasian settlers represent the entirety of the continent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.134.31.86 (talk • contribs)

Do you have an academic source for any of this rambling? No? Then why even bring it up on the talk page? For starters, Turkic Cumans, Berendei and Pechenegs weren't the only peoples who were native to historical Ukraine before the arrival of Poles, Jews, Hungarians, or even Russians (a history which stretches back to the ancient Greeks colonists and nomadic, Iranian-speaking Scythians). The principle state of medieval Ukraine was Kievan Rus, founded by Oleg of Novgorod, brother of the Varangian ruler Rurik. The core of medieval Ukrainian society were ethnic Rus' people, largely descended from North Germanic/Scandinavians, who wed into the existing local culture and communities of the East Slavs of early medieval Ukraine and Russia. The people of Kievan Rus spoke Old East Slavic, which was also spoken at the time in Belarus and parts of Russia, which demonstrates that these were more or less the same peoples, or at the very least retained similar Slavic cultures. In light of that, your attempt to paint the core population group of Ukrainians as Turkic peoples is rather humorous and an idea I've come across before when listening to rabid Russian nationalists who were desperate to deny any sort of historical link between Russians and Ukrainians. If you want to argue that the East-Slavic-speaking Cossacks are partially descended from earlier Khazars, that's one thing, but to extrapolate this to the entire core Ukrainian ethnic group is quite another. --Pericles of AthensTalk 14:09, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"an idea I've come across before when listening to rabid Russian nationalists" I would actually argue that it was the Russian nationalists (read: imperialists) who invented this pan-Slavist racial ideology. The hypothesis suggesting the Chinese (Taklamakan Desert) origins of modern-day Ukrainians actually seems more grounded in reality than the fascist myth about Vikings/Scythians/Aryans and whatnot stormfront kiddies like you love sperging out whenever there's a discussion on the Internet about race, "white people" or an "International Jewish/Zionist NWO conspiracy". --212.111.202.6 (talk) 09:58, 17 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I know what I look like. I can easily tell the difference between an ethnic Ukrainian and Russian invaders from the north. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.134.31.86 (talk • contribs)

Your absurd anecdotal observations are worthless considering WP:FORUM. Unless you have some sort of academic source, like a book or journal from a scholarly institution sharing this view of yours, then we can just go ahead and cut this conversation off right now. As an editor or commentator at Wiki, your opinions don't mean anything. The only thing that matters is Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Even then, one source usually isn't enough, considering academic consensus versus WP:FRINGE. The idea you are presenting is almost undoubtedly a fringe idea, and one that's perhaps only discussed on random blogs, not by serious anthropologists. Pericles of AthensTalk 19:20, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You're not a real historian. Your diploma is fake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.50.48 (talk) 21:45, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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