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Contacting me

I prefer to communicate via talk pages. Please only email me if there is a good reason not to conduct a conversation on a talk page. I do not respond to emails regarding link deletions and other issues that should be discussed on your userpage or the article talk page.


Why did you remove my external links?

If you've come here because you want to know why I removed some external links you've added, please read Wikipedia's policies on spam, Wikipedia external link guidelines and conflict-of-interest first. Because of Wikipedia's popularity, it has become a target for folks looking to promote their sites, which is against Wikipedia policies. If you read WP:SPAM and still feel that your link(s) does not violate those policies, let me know.

One common argument I hear is But so-and-so link is on that article, and it's commercial! WP:EL doesn't explicitly forbid In links to commercial sites; it depends on the notability of the link, its content, and if it's a reference or a notable pro/con argument on a controversial subject, etc. On the other hand, I think that many Wikipedians would agree that there are way too many commercial links at present time, so feel free to "prune away" if the link doesn't meet guidelines in WP:EL. Incidentally, if you've come here to complain that I've deleted links to your blog (especially a blog with advertising), don't bother. You'll have to find free advertising somewhere else. A good Google search will reveal plenty of places for that sort of thing.

Vandalism and insults left here will be recycled in the bit bucket. Remember: be nice!







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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:23, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Blatant and unashamed refactoring of another editor's talk page post

I decided that this was one of the rare occasions when changing another editor's post is reasonable. Please reprimand me severely if you disagree. (Incidentally, the editor knows full well that evading a block by using sockpuppets is unacceptable, having been told that in his guise as other sockpuppets.) The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 18:48, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Would we call that a time out? Thank you for correcting my finger slip. Yes, I know that he has been told on other accounts' pages, but he had not been so warned on this one and he hopes, if unblocked, to make this one his only page. So it was for the record, and to create continuity.--Anthony Bradbury"talk" 22:01, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. I quite often post a large chunk of explanation on a blocked editor's talk page about stuff which I know full well he or she has already been told. My comments are ostensibly addressed to that editor, but in fact they are there as a record to help other editors who may need to know, such as administrators reviewing unblock requests. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 18:39, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, I was strongly tempted not to refactor your post, not because of a misplaced reverence for Wikipedia's talk page guidelines, but because the idea of creating an account to avoid a clock seemed like a pretty amazing idea, and worth preserving. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 18:42, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled

Hey, I am a new editor on wikipedia. I already have submitted 2 drafts of general use. This time, i am also writing about on page optimization, if you may see my draft. In meantime i am learning how to use externel reliable sources and for that i used my clinic from where i am taking treatment and what resources for reliabilty i saw i used them. It's ok if you delete my draft article but why have you deleted my user page. It's not ustified. Plese revert your commited action. i want to complete my draft and be continued with wikipedia. Meenakshi Rana (talk) 08:28, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The reasons for the deletion of your articles are contained in the deletion notifications; I understand that this is clear to you. You are correct in saying that I deleted your userpage; it has also been deleted, prior to my action, by another admin. The reason is straightforward, and is completely justified. A userpage is intended to be a page on which you may, if you wish, post details about your activities, hopes, expectations, skills, interests, etc., as they relate to your editing within Wikipedia. It is also acceptable to include brief biographical details. We do not want to know about your past or present employment, your family history, your education, etc. The page is about you as a Wikipedia editor only. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 11:33, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Re-Submitting Content for a deleted page

Hello, I created a page and submitted it for approval but it was declined, and deleted. The message I received is: If you are creating a new page with different content, please continue. If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the user(s) who performed the action(s) listed below. The deleted page was Draft: AutoBuy, and I have new content for that page to submit. I wanted to contact you as it said to first contact the person who deleted the page. Should I just go ahead and resubmit my content? It will be different, more neutral content. Thanks in advance for your help. Crystalhartwell (talk) 03:43, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have revisited your draft. As previously submitted it is grossly promotional in phraseology, and would need a total re-draft to be acceptable. Eliminating all the adjectives would be a good start, although not in itself adequate. Do you have a commercial relationship with this company?--Anthony Bradbury"talk" 12:10, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. May I submit the revised content (I understand about eliminating adjectives, but not just that will make it adequate)? Should I go back to the original draft page and resubmit, or start a new page? Many thanks again. Crystalhartwell (talk) 18:09, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Recommend starting afresh. In my opinion the original draft is beyond redemption. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 18:12, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much. I re-submitted for AutoBuy. I hope I did it correctly. Eager to make any further changes to the new content in order to have it approved. Many thanks in advance.Crystalhartwell (talk) 18:07, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sock from Louisiana

Hi there. Are you able to look at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:104.243.168.194. You have blocked this editor in the past. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:06, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding inappropriate deletion of CSQ Research Canadian Think Tank website at csq1.org

Can I ask you to restore this Canadian Think Tank listing page please? I have explained politely citing facts, that Deb's assessments of: A7 No Importance - Does not apply. Economics, Government Policy, Politics, World Peace NGO Organizations are discussed in more than 150 pages of researched articles and books at this website. Content exceeds sites of other Canadian Think-tanks two or three-fold; and G11 - Unambiguous advertising or promotion - Does not apply. The site documents Worthwhile Venture Impact Campuses, Transition Economics, Maturity Modelling for Government Policy Globally, Certification Programs for Projects Mgmt & Technology Investment, and articles also support Wiki documentation in Economics, Kondratiev Waves, World Peace and others. I just noticed the deletion and question why these very subjective points were not raised for many much more trivial sites presented as Canadian Think Tanks by Wikipedia - Do you have the content text that I added here in May?

I do not see any text by you in May, on this or indeed any other topic. The article you mention appears to have been created by you in late June of this year, and consists of some three lines only; it mentions none of the things you list in your message to me, and does not appear, from the text, to possess any encyclopedic notability. Had I come across it I would have deleted it, but in fact I did not; it was deleted by Admin Deb. It follows that I am not prepared to restore it. You are entirely at liberty to ask the delting admin. If you do so it will save time if you sign you post, which you did not do in your post to me. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 23:03, 29 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – November 2017

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:49, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted userpage

Dude, did you even check the page? Or just hit delete? I went through the requirements for a users page and hit them all. Seriously...

You will note that I repositioned, and correctly titled, your unsigned message. To answer your question, yes, I read the whole page. It absolutely does not fulfill the requirements of a userpage. The personal data appropriate are your skills, intentions, aspirations, expectations, etc. in the context or your editing within wikipedia. Your expertise on kettlebells, which is obviously important to you, is of no interest here; and your editing work on Wikipedia, be it past, present or future is not mentioned. I suggest that you review the userpage requirements, which you say you have gone through. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 22:03, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
On reflection I will concede that the second sentence of your deleted page is within policy requirements; it is, however, the only one which is. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 22:17, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Anthony, you deleted a page I created for Sheikh Tarik. He paid me to create the page hence the content is almost the same. Can you let me know how I go about this since this is the write up he gave me? Regards MUK — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mukaiser (talk • contribs) 16:25, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note

I was in the process of reverting Open Theology to a redirect when you deleted it. I've restored the page but I left the other revisions deleted. Primefac (talk) 15:06, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the Speedy deletion of Chlara Page

Dear Anthony,

I just get shocked today that i received the message about the Speedy deletion of Chlara Page, it claimed"A tag has been placed on Chlara requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.discogs.com/artist/4457401-Chlara. "The wording is similar because i'm the person who also managing the discogs artist profile. And i have all the right to post the information about Chlara because im the person who hired by her record company to edit her profile, instead the information of Chlara in other language is partly WRONG!

Chlara's page is not just for us. Its also for her fans or new fans that who listened her facebook live streaming/ public performance and more performance to know more about her! Therefore, if anything i can do better or you want me to show more sources and evidence to prove my right to all my wordings, please let me know and give me and Chlara a chance to be on Wikipedia, make Chlara's page to the public again.

Regards, Vincent 

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Josearce3 (talk • contribs) 02:34, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am happy to accept that you hold copyright on the material used in the Chlara page. It is nevertheless protected by copyright law, and there is a procedure which you are required to go through before it can be accepted here. Please see donating copyrighted material, and if this is unclear then copyright policy. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 22:58, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Anthony,

I see Wikipedia's point and i will discuss with my boss and send the required documents, since im just employed as a part-time staff, it takes time to communicate to my boss. Please hold the Chlara page and we will do that as soon as possible. Thank You!

Regards, Vincent — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josearce3 (talk • contribs) 07:40, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Vincent; deleted material always remains within the server memory and can be accessed if appropriate. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 11:00, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Anthony,

Very Sorry about that, the situation is that im the part time staff of the company evomg and the boss is often here, and my English is not really good but i tried to understand it. My question is that if i want to activated my Chlara Post i need to send a "statement of permission"(Which is the template from wiki) to make my Chlara content available? And do i need to provide more statement to prove that? Very sorry about my confusion.Josearce3 (talk) 02:13, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks and Regards, Vincent — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josearce3 (talk • contribs) 02:13, 21 November 2017 (UTC)Josearce3 (talk) 01:19, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Anthony,

My Boss called Ashley, he already sent the email to the permission email address, please help check and let me know if the information is not enoguh

Thank you and Regards, Vincent Josearce3 (talk) 02:08, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

repeat

Draft:Deng Zhonghan also exists.So have tagged Draft:John Deng Zhonghan for speedy deletion — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biyadishamo (talk • contribs) 13:30, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a valid reason for deletion of either of the drafts. When (if) one is accepted as an article the other can be deleted.--Anthony Bradbury"talk" 14:47, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Mehrdad 12 and Sockpuppetry associated with User:History of Persia / User: Artin Mehraban

There is an issue with User:Mehrdad 12. A friend of mine stumbled upon this historically innaccurate map (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:131Etendue_de_l%27Empire_Fran%C3%A7ais1.png) added to a the French colonial empire page. It was created by the afforementioned user. User:Mehrdad 12 has accounts on the Persian Wikipedia as well as Wiki Commons. He freqently falsifies image edits and contributions without sources and adds his self created images to articles. Most of his edits have been reverted by me, or others such as User: LouisAragon. I feel his image edits in particular are damaging to the integrity and mission of Wikipedia and Media Wiki.

I have a good reason to suspect that this is User: Artin Mehraban who formerly had a sockpuppet account as User:History of Persia. The MO is very similar. Bad English, no reason for edits, false information, and focus on revising Persian History, "Afsharia"("Mehrdad 12" associates with this on the Persian Wiki, and "Artin Mehraban" edited this article on the Persian Wiki) and image editing without sources. I also should point out that the name is very similar (Mehrdad v Mehraban.) I am bringing this to your attention because i believe action needs to be taken to block the account based on the history of edits. -- User:R9tgokunks (gespraec) 04:54, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This sockpuppetry appears to already have been noted and acted upon; both accounts you mention are checkuser-blocked. as to the map in Commons; I am not an admin, or even an editor, there. I take your point about the map, and suggest that you take the matter up within the Commons framework. Obviously, of course, I have no authority within the Persian Wikipedia.--Anthony Bradbury"talk" 11:55, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your signature

Please be aware that your signature uses deprecated <font> tags, which are causing Obsolete HTML tags lint errors. Your signature is also causing Tidy bug affecting font tags wrapping links.

You are encouraged to change

--<font color="Red">[[User:Anthony Bradbury|'''Anthony Bradbury''']]</font><sup><font color="Black">[[User talk:Anthony.bradbury|"talk"]]</font></sup> → --Anthony Bradbury"talk"

to

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Respectfully, Anomalocaris (talk) 18:41, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please restore User:Luang Pradit Pairoh

Hi. User:Luang Pradit Pairoh contains page history that should be histmerged into Luang Pradit Pairoh. Please restore the page. Thanks in advance. --Paul_012 (talk) 02:34, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, all sorted. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:08, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red World Contest

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Removed speedy delete tag

Hello! Please, could you explain why you removed the speedy delete tag from this sandbox? The author has not edited it since 2008, and is not present in enwiki for five years. Article (List of municipalities of Norway) is being actively updated for this period. It is obvious to me that it is the abandoned draft. With respect, --109.238.80.85 (talk) 13:10, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the editor is not active in enwiki. But CSD G13 deletion only applies to articles previously submitted via WP:AFC, which this sandbox was not. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 13:17, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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DRV

Hi, I notice you did not ping me nor left any comment while deleting a page I created.I still say that it justified its notability and have started a DRV.Bingobro (Chat) 04:17, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging the author in this situation is not a policy requirement within Wikipedia. As to the article, I suggest to you that this airline may well achieve Wikipedic notability when it commences operations; until that, in my opinion, it has none. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 11:31, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom 2017 election voter message

Hello, Anthony Bradbury. Voting in the 2017 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 10 December. All users who registered an account before Saturday, 28 October 2017, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Wednesday, 1 November 2017 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

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About deleted userpage

Hello, I created a page and submitted it for approval but it was declined, and deleted. I attempted a contest, but the removal was very quick. The message I received is: If you are creating a new page with different content, please continue. If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the user(s) who performed the action(s) listed below. The deleted page was Ray Brown (Producer), and I have new content for that page to submit. I wanted to contact you as it said to first contact the person who deleted the page. Should I just go ahead and resubmit my content? Should I do this from an account not named for the Wikipedia entry? Did you have concerns with references or notability? Do you have the deleted page as the copy editing and links and references were work I would like to retrieve and edit as possible.Ray Brown (Producer) (talk) 23:14, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You did not, in fact, create an article; you created a userpage, although I assume that this was not your intention. The edit you created is correctly quoted by you as User:Ray Brown (Producer). A userpage in Wikipedia is a page on which a user can indicate his/her interests, skill, achievements, expectations, expertise, etc. as these factors apply directly to his or her Wikipedia editing. Brief biographical details are acceptable, but a retailed resume is wholly unacceptable.
Secondly, the creation of autobiography here is strongly discouraged. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 23:34, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks I moved to a draft in my sandbox and submitted for review. It looks like more work required to avoid "autobiography". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akumalbay12 (talk • contribs) 17:08, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2017 Military Historian of the Year and Newcomer of the Year nominations and voting

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Clearing a backlog, need advice

Clearing through old requests at CAT:UNB, and came across User talk:RealJohnBambenek. I don't know enough of the background of the case to close his request intelligently, but it looks like you do. Can you resolve his unblock request one way or another? It's been 9 days and probably should be taken care of. Thanks! --Jayron32 16:28, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:2015–16 Alaska Anchorage Seawolves men's basketball team

This article went through AfD, so is not eligible for G13 speedy deletion.  Unscintillating (talk) 23:43, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unscintillating, G13 deletions are normal practice for drafts that have not been edited for 6+ months. You are welcome to request a REFUND. However, given that you're the one who moved the page to the draft space I'm surprised you're contesting the deletion. Primefac (talk) 12:52, 12 December 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)[reply]
This was an out-of-process deletion, not "normal practice", so the puzzle is that you aren't encouraging an administrator to follow "a widely accepted standard that all editors should normally follow".  Unscintillating (talk) 12:37, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Had it remained as an article, with a previous history of AfD resulting in a "no consensus" decision, then a speedy deletion would be very unlikely although not forbidden by policy. But any draft which is neither edited nor submitted within six months may be deleted under CSD category G13. And it was. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 16:06, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest that you read the CSD policy, as there is no ambiguity for G13.
As for the idea that G13 can be applied to articles in mainspace, articles in mainspace are not bread that goes stale.  There is a different concept that comes from software, where Wikipedia policy and practice might be lacking, which is maintainability.  Unscintillating (talk) 12:37, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As of August 2017 G13 can now be applied to any page in the Draft space. While I personally do not agree with this decision, it was made. There is nothing done "out of practice". Primefac (talk) 14:54, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Primefac: I am sorry that you do not like my decision (I assume that you referred to that, not to the CSD policy). You will, of course, be aware that the text remains available if called for. I feel that there is little option is this situation; if a draft exists, has not been edited for six months or more, and the author has been notified of impending deletion, what else is there to do? I am aware that this draft, unusually, had been brought back to draft space from article space, but even so it must be treated in the same way as any other draft. There was, you will appreciate, a lot of time in which the draft could have been edited, and it was not. Certainly I could have returned the draft to article space, or I could have moved the draft into the requesting editor's talkspace, but neither is really in line with current policy. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 17:04, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I find your decision to delete it perfectly sound. I was indeed referring to the G13-for-all decision earlier, mostly because I know a fair number of editors affected by it who then have to immediately turn around and request a REFUND. Primefac (talk) 17:11, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies for misunderstanding your point. Even after the change in policy I have tended to avoid heavy-handed deletion of drafts which are time-expired but were not initiated at AfC. Most, surely, are deletable but some can sensibly be saved, by one means or another. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 17:23, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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