User talk:Vmavanti

Record Labels

If Wikipedia:WikiProject Record Labels had a barnstar to hand out, I'd certainly give it to you. Thanks for all the improvements, they are greatly appreciated. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 03:59, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Photos

Actually, I may be able to help with the photo thing. It depends on what you need. That was something in which I have a good amount of advice or info. If not me, there are two others who also have added a bulk of photos as well that I can point you to if it's beyond my reach right now. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 23:29, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Re: Swing

Honestly, I don't know why people make lists like that when categories are a much more efficient way to organize them. A list like that should include non-notable musicians or notable musicians without articles, for it to have any value over a category, but people persist in making lists and then excising them of all the non-notables. Expect pushback if you nuke the list, but not from me. Chubbles (talk) 23:30, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hey Vmanvanti -- thanks for the mods on the Jennifer Condos page. I don't even remember creating a couple of those... must have been late at night. Anyway, your scrutiny is always apprerciated, and I like to think I learn from each error I set free into the world. Scberry (talk) 01:43, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. What do you think about going back and working on some of the entries you've already done? (assuming they need work)
–Vmavanti (talk) 01:46, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Many Thanks!

Vman, thanks for the fix of runoff. I spent many hours writing that paragraph, on a mission to put out a readable, meaningful description of how the nasty debris flows happen. I've been sweating the possibility of destructive editing, so was thrilled to find a constructive edit! I wanted to say "natural debris flows happen where they've happened many times before", with out being offensive. Curiously, the ghastly precipitation rate that drove the Montecito debris flows is originally reported in a tweet by the National Weather Service, Los Angeles. I found that by deep searching, after seeing multiple, unattributed references to intense rain that night. I also looked at the remote recording stations at the NWS, but found no near real-time intensity data. Still a mystery where the data came from, but the NWS is a good source. There is such a thing as an intensity gauge, weighs a bucket, punches a tape that is gathered monthly, published in monthly station reports. In my view, many "news aggregators" use over-dramatized information as bait to much commercial advertising. Erthygy (talk) 20:29, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Invitation to join Women in Red

		Thank you for creating several articles on women and their works over the past few weeks. We have become aware of your contributions thanks to research undertaken by Bobo.03 at the University of Minnesota. You might be interested in becoming a member of our WikiProject Women in Red where we are actively trying to reduce Wikipedia's content gender gap. If you would like to receive news of our activities without becoming a member, you can simply add your name to our mailing list. In any case, thank you for actively contributing to the coverage of women (currently, just 17.37% of English Wikipedia's biographies). Our priorities for January: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/64|Prisoners]] [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/65|Fashion designers]] [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/66|Geofocus: Great Britain and Ireland]] [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/00|#1day1woman Global Initiative]]
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--Ipigott (talk) 16:27, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Fixing links to DAB pages

Keep up the good work, and keep the pressure on. I hope that you beat me in this month's DAB Challenge – because if you do, I will have the pleasure of awarding you a very rare barnstar. Narky Blert (talk) 21:27, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Re: Bob Malach

No good deed goes unpunished, around here. Please stop policing my edits. Thank you. Chubbles (talk) 06:09, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

What good deed? Are you under the impression that creating that article was a good deed? It wasn't. Because you did it half-assed. Use incline citations. Don't tack a source at the bottom and leave the rest of us to clean it up. If you're going to create an article, at least give it a good foundation, one commensurate with your abilities as an experienced editor and educated person. My guess is that everyone skilled enough to use a computer learned how to cite sources when they were thirteen years old. Failing to do it is therefore, to me, a sign of laziness. I'm gone over this point before. I'm hardly policing your edits, unless you consider the act of editing itself policework. I would rather not have to clean up after you. But it's impossible to avoid your editing because you have created so many articles. As I said before, please consider improving Wikipedia over your own self-aggrandizement. I can understand certain kinds of behavior from IP editors. But you know better. That's what annoys me. And you can bet others are annoyed, too.Vmavanti (talk) 01:45, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Super Disambiguator's Barnstar
		The Super Disambiguator's Barnstar is awarded to the winners of the Disambiguation Pages With Links monthly challenge, who have gone above and beyond to remove ambiguous links. This award is presented to Vmavanti, for successfully fixing 2297 links in the challenge of January 2018. This user is also recognized as the Bonus List Champion of January 2018.

I seriously think that some of the headline numbers in WP:TDD could soon be down to four figures if WP:DPL members keep the pressure on. Have you considered signing up? {{Ping}} me if you'd like some links. Narky Blert (talk) 01:47, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

district HQ

Hi. Thanks for fixing the disamb. I see you work a lot in that field, so just an FYI, "district" is a collection of many cities/villages/towns; and district HQ is a city. Like in this edit, Deulgaon tad is a village, Jalna, Maharashtra is a city that is in turn hq for Jalna district. Thanks a lot again! See you around. :) —usernamekiran(talk) 03:53, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Your edits to Sara Niemietz

Hi Vmavanti, on Dec 6 you removed jazz and blues genres from the Sara Niemietz article's Infobox DIF. I see that you've also removed her from the Jazz Project on the talk page. DIF

Would you mind reviewing the following:

• Pokemon Theme Song as Jazz, feat. Sara Niemietz If you listen past the intro, I'm sure you will find that Niemietz is a quite capable jazz artist.
• At Last - Etta James (LIVE Sara Niemietz Cover)

Here are a few more jazz/blues offerings that do not limit her to pop / rock.

• Otis Redding - I've Been Loving You Too Long
• "Nobody Knows You When You're Down and Out" (Live)
• To Love Somebody (Live) (blues piano arrangement)
• God Bless the Child

Niemietz is also currently on her 5th tour outing (to include US, EU, AUS, Brazil, India, Dubai) with Postmodern Jukebox, a band that rearranges popular titles into jazz, blues and ragtime covers.

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

I'm hoping that you will reconsider and reverse your edits, I have a COI and cannot restore these genres that I know are very important areas of study to the artist, thank you ESparky (talk) 16:14, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

I'll take a look at the links you gave me, but the fact that you have a conflict of interest doesn't do much for your credibility. First, you need to understand that Wikipedia's purpose isn't to promote or advertise. It may be yours, but it isn't mine. I'm supposed to be impartial. Wikipedia isn't the place for cheerleading. It's an encyclopedia. I don't know if you grew up with encyclopedias. Those heavy black Britannica volumes. Probably not. Most people thought they were boring. Wikipedia documentation has a rule called notability. Generally the person has to have made some kind of substantial contribution, accomplished something endurable, historical speaking. For notability regarding music, see here. Don't bother showing me articles that break Wikipedia's rules. I already know there are plenty. Editors have trouble keeping up with the quantity of information submitted. I wish people who wrote articles knew the rules. I also wish there were more common sense.

"On Wikipedia, notability is a test used by editors to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article. For people, the person who is the topic of a biographical article should be "worthy of notice"[1] or "note"[2] – that is, "remarkable"[2] or "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded"[1] within Wikipedia as a written account of that person's life. "Notable" in the sense of being "famous" or "popular" – although not irrelevant – is secondary."

You might want to read that last sentence again. I don't consider Postmodern Jukebox a traditional jazz group or organization. When I hear about a musician, the first place I look is AllMusic. On AllMusic, Sara Niemetz has one album, a live album from 2003. She is listed under the genre "Children's." Here's something I wrote about a month ago regarding how to determine if a person qualifies as a jazz musician:

"Determining whether a person is a jazz musician might seem like a hair-splitting, academic task, but it's simple most of the time. My approach is to ask questions such as

• Have all or most of their albums and performances been called jazz by reliable sources?
• How do jazz critics define them?
• How do they define themselves?
• Have they been educated in jazz?
• Do they appear in jazz magazines, web sites, and radio stations? Has their work be seriously reviewed by jazz critics?
• Are they signed to jazz record labels? Have they recorded often for those labels?
• Do they work often with other jazz musicians?
• Is their contribution to jazz substantial?

These questions are aimed at defining a body of work. I try to find representative characteristics rather than exceptions. Barbara Streisand at the beginning of her career sang standards. But most of her career has been spent in pop, rock, musicals, and so on. Diana Ross portrayed Billie Holiday in the movie Lady Sing the Blues. But most of her career has been in pop, rock, and R&B." So I don't consider them jazz singers, though of course they are talented, successful, and quite capable of singing jazz.

I don't expect you to like what I'm saying, but I'm too old and tired for b.s., so I won't insult you by pretending, whitewashing, or lying to you. I'll try to find more information about her, and if I change my mind I'll change my edit. My instinct right now is that she's not among the better known jazz singers, and I'm curious why there is an article about her at all. Maybe you should take what you can get and not push it.
–Vmavanti (talk) 17:37, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

@Vmavanti: Checking back a week later, maybe I can make your research a little easier.

Postmodern Jukebox has 16 albums that have charted in the top ten Billboard Jazz Album chart. Yes, Niemietz is signed with a jazz label and appears 21 times on albums and singles. Plenty of people seem to consider Postmodern Jukebox well within the jazz genre, you may be the outlier.

Even outside of PMJ, Niemietz is known as a jazz/blues musician by her performancesWP:N.

I'm supposed to be impartial. Wikipedia isn't the place for cheerleading.
— User:Vmavanti

I'm not cheer-leading, I'm stating published fact. (Some of these references are in the Niemietz bio, most are not, usually don't have to prove somebody belongs in a genre.)

Niemietz has also charted as a co-writer with Melissa Manchester, the album charted #17 on Billboard Jazz Albums (February 28, 2015). This review says that the first single, “Feelin’ for You”, debuted at number two on the smooth jazz charts.

She also describes herself as a life-long student of blues and jazz classics.

If you don't want the article in the Jazz Project because she is not exclusively jazz, that is fine with me, my interest is in the broader description of the artist in the infobox. ESparky (talk) 16:18, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

• @Vmavanti: Thank you for your edits and clean up. Jazz pop is a good call. ESparky (talk) 17:36, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

References

Edits to Bob Welch

Bob Welch was, in fact, a singer-songwriter, lead and rhythm guitarist who, according to Mick Fleetwood, was a jazz guitarist who also played R&B and soul, thus bringing a new sound to Fleetwood Mac, and he did move to England via France to join the group. He also committed suicide by shooting himself in his Nashville home and did record for Capitol Records, so please be careful who you single out in regards to adding other categories. 203.221.128.210 (talk) 12:38, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are talking about. Your suggestion that Bob Welch was a jazz guitarist is news to me. As far as I know, he never recorded any jazz albums and never played in any jazz groups. He was known throughout his career as a pop and rock guitarist and singer, first with Fleetwood Mac, then solo. Those are facts, not value judgments. What any of that has to do with suicide or recording for Capitol is a mystery to me.Vmavanti (talk) 20:34, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

As I said earlier, Mick Fleetwood himself acknowledges in the documentary "Two Sticks and a Drum: The Mick Fleetwood Story" that Bob was a jazz player as well as in the "Family Trees" special on Fleetwood Mac (narrated by John Peel), where he describes him as a jazzy and R&B or somewhere along the line of those adjectives. Virtually any artist who records or did record for Capitol Records would go into the Capitol Records artists category and people who committed suicide in Tennessee by firearm is no exception. Bob initially played rhythm guitar alongside Danny Kirwan and Bob Weston on lead guitar, but obviously became the lead guitarist after Bob Weston was fired for having an affair with Mick's wife Jenny.60.240.8.249 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:06, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Set Indices

Please read WP:SETINDEX before making any more edits to ship index pages. Thank you. Llammakey (talk) 11:14, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

What article are you referring to? So I can see the diff.
–Vmavanti (talk) 16:38, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Obersee

Hi, dear Vmavanti, it was me, who translated the text from the german article for the english article on House Lemke. I did on purpose not put into square brackets the term Obersee - because non of the given options at wikipedia is THE Obersee, which is mentioned in this article. The Obersee you mentioned, is in bavaria, but the house is in Berlin. So, i will revert your change on the article and i hope it is understandable, why. Thank you and kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 22:36, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

OK. You mean there is no article for THE Lake Obersee in Berlin? Then it should not be linked.
Vmavanti (talk) 22:39, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Vmavanti, i'm sorry, i'm sick at the moment and really feeling out of order... when i get better, i will at least add the Obersee in Berlin to this disambiguation site, right now, i cannot even think, sorry. Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 00:09, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

automated edits

This strikes me as the sort of purely cosmetic change that we generally try to discourage as a mass-editing task with either bots or automated tools. Beeblebrox (talk) 02:08, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of that. Thank you.
Vmavanti (talk) 02:09, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Topicons

{{DPL topicon}} and {{WikiGnome topicon}} are fun things to add to your Talk Page. Narky Blert (talk) 01:53, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Stumper list

The Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation pages with links#Stumper list seems to have been very successful. Do you have more pages for it? You could either release a few dozen every few days and move any outstanding ones into a "super stumper" list, or just dump the whole list there if it's available or easy to create. Alternatively, if you have a method for identifying these pages, just let me know and I can do the job myself. Thanks, Certes (talk) 22:13, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

I like this initiative. When I signed up to WP:DPL, there were something like 11,800 tags in Category:Articles with links needing disambiguation. I helped get that down to c. 4,700 (I may have solved half of those problems, but certainly no more than that.) Now that the count is down below 2,400, it looks like a good time to invite other editors into specific problems for concerted attacks. (I have had some success in reaching out to various WP:WIKIPROJECTs for help. Some are very good – knowledgeable, and keen to get articles in their speciality right. Three WikiProjects have failed to address any issue which I have raised, and are, in my frank opinion, for that reason, useless. They have a common characteristic: all relate to the same topic area, Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion.) Narky Blert (talk) 22:55, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

A DABfixer's tip

If you come across a link from one DAB page to another but improperly linked (usually as a see-also), the trick is to (a) add a (disambiguation) qualifier to the link in the source page, (b) open the redlink you've just made, and (c) redirect it to the proper place. See e.g. Cox and how I fixed the problem.

If you come across a DAB page with no (disambiguation) redirect into it, it is always right to create that redirect.

Unless, of course, the target already has a qualified name, because double qualifiers are no-nos. Then is the time to scream, shout, move a page, create a WP:SIA, ask for help, or give up in despair. Yrs, Narky Blert (talk) 22:00, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks.Vmavanti (talk) 22:11, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Help

Hello. Help expanded article by Maureen Wroblewitz from [1]. Thanks you.Kim Mai 13 (talk) 03:00, 19 April 2018 (UTC)