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BBC Vandal

Ron, I'm sorry to bother you yet again, but the BBC vandal has surfaced, yet again, as JPF F1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) making exactly the same unsourced and inaccurate changes. They have been warned on their Talk page, but seems to take no notice. Once again, your help is much appreciated and have a good weekend. Regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 13:05, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@David J Johnson: He appears to have reverted his edits post warning. Might be a different person. Ping if he re-starts. Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:27, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Will do Ron. Best, David, David J Johnson (talk) 19:30, 12 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Re-started again today JPF F1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) with same changes to same BBC associated articles. I'm as sure as I can be that this is block evasion - again. Regards, David J Johnson (talk) 16:03, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@David J Johnson: Ooo, by the time I had gone there and come back, he had blanked this section (waste of time as the notifications still work). Ronhjones  (Talk) 16:23, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ron, thanks for your help. See he/she trying to get unblocked, claiming to be a "journalist" - although they can't spell even that "contribution". They have been warned more times, in both IP's and named accounts, than I care to remember. Regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 16:41, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Georges Léonnec00.jpg

You/your bot tagged this file as being more than 100KB whereas the original file I uploaded was only 46KB......what is going on?......Paul venter (talk) 10:06, 15 August 2018 (UTC)*[reply]

@Paul venter: The guideline is 100,000 pixels, not 100,000 bytes. Bytes are irrelevant. 348x451=156,948 pixels. Ronhjones  (Talk) 15:40, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If that is the case then please get Wiki to change the units of file size measurement in their image description - "Georges_Léonnec00.jpg ‎(277 × 358 pixels, file size: 26 KB, MIME type: image/jpeg)" - to match the units recommended in their guideline. The present setup is irritating and inconsistent..... Paul venter (talk) 16:06, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The file description and the file history always shows the pixel size first, and WP:NFC has used 100,000 pixels as a guideline since 2010. No-one ever talks about the file size, as it is dependent on too many variables (file type, lossless vs. lossy compression, degree of compression, etc.) If you want the data in a different form, then that has to be suggested at WP:VPT Ronhjones  (Talk) 16:21, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rafale Deal Controversy

Hey can you help me to get the content of the deleted page Rafale Deal Controversy?.Akhiljaxxn (talk) 12:25, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Akhiljaxxn: Sent by e-mail Ronhjones  (Talk) 15:59, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Jeff Hunt (music producer)

Hi Ron,

So you deleted my page Jeff Hunt (music producer) which I was creating at the behest of the individual in question, and he holds the copyright on opaque.ink/about which you flagged for copyright infringement. I need to know how to proceed.

And I wish you could undelete the page because you essentially deleted several hours of paid work.

Thanks, Alex — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alakshovel (talk • contribs) 14:38, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Alakshovel: Editors often check articles for text matching that on existing web sites. If the web site is not showing a suitable CC (or similar) licence, then it will get deleted - the automatic default for all external content is "All Rights Reserved". The only other option is for the copyright holder to donate the copyright at Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries - once the OTRS team have validated the permission, only then then it can be undeleted. Alternatively put the logo and text from https://creativecommons.org/choose/results-one?license_code=by-sa&jurisdiction=&version=4.0&lang=en at the bottom of http://www.opaque.ink/about and let me know. Ronhjones  (Talk) 15:55, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ron,

I'm having Jeff put the creative commons logo and text at the bottom of his About page, as per your suggestion. Thank you. Alex

Alaks Hovel 22:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alakshovel (talk • contribs)

@Alakshovel: Page restored. I've added a note to the talk page. Ronhjones  (Talk) 16:35, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Hunt (music producer)

Hi, so I was creating a page for Jeff Hunt, the owner of the "copyright material" over which my page was deleted. Could you undelete so I can do some copyright verification for this?

Thank you, Alex

Alaks Hovel 15:11, 15 August 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alakshovel (talk • contribs)

See note above. We cannot undelete copyright material. Ronhjones  (Talk) 15:56, 15 August 2018 (UTC)\[reply]


Thank you Ronhjones. It seems to have been flagged again for Speedy Deletion but I've left a message with the Wikipedian addressing it, Sphilbrick, to ask that he not delete it. Thank you!

Alaks Hovel 16:40, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Request access to view the deleted content of Jianjun Shi

Hi, I created the wiki page of Jianjun Shi, and due to my inexperience part of the article was taken from his personal website and resulted in deletion. Can you send me a copy of the content of the page so I can make sure there is no copyright infringement and so I don’t have to start from scratch? Thank you Haronexavier (talk) 06:18, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Haronexavier: You need to set up your e-mail in your preferences. Ronhjones  (Talk) 16:22, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Hunt (music producer)

You undid my speedy nomination of Draft:Jeff Hunt (music producer)

I acknowledged in my nomination perhaps to cryptically, that the source material did have a CC license but it was not one of the acceptable ones.

According to: Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright, CC BY 4.0 is acceptable but CC BY-SA 4.0 is not.

The source is licensed:

"This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License*

Do you think I'm missing something or do you think the FAQ is wrong?--S Philbrick(Talk) 16:56, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Sphilbrick: What a pain. It's my fault - I told him to put 4.0 - Too used to commons licenses! It's obviously his page and we aren't going to get any problems, I'll tell him to alter it. Ronhjones  (Talk) 17:45, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I've managed to make two types of errors relating to CC 4.0. I once accepted something because it sounded like a plausible license and got my hand slapped. Then I rejected something that was CC BY 4.0, thinking that the problem was the version, but it's a little more subtle it's the SA aspect I believe. I suspect that they aren't too thrilled because they thought they were taking your advice, but we will get it sorted out. I'm not going to restore the tag on the assumption that a suitable license will be provided shortly. (Someone needs to double our pay).--S Philbrick(Talk) 18:47, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Will placing {{bots|deny=RonBot}} on my user page / user talk page work? I upload larger image on purpose knowing RonBot will fix them later.Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:24, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@Softlavender and Headbomb: The bot is exclusion compliant and obeys the bot/nobot template - {{Bots|deny=RonBot}} will work. Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:39, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
User page or talk page? Or either? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:44, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Headbomb: The page the bot is proposing to edit. Bot gets the page contents, passes to Template:Bots#Python to see if it can change that page. In this case, of course, the user talk page. Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:49, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

File:1884 attack on London Bridge.jpg

Kindly return the deleted revision and tag the file with {{PD-US-1923-abroad}}. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:16, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Finnusertop: Done and moved to commons, as it's over 120 years old it can have {{PD-old-assumed}} (commons only template) for source and {{PD-1923}} for US Ronhjones  (Talk) 16:17, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yermi.mp4

File:Yermi.mp4

I don't care if this file that was only uploaded as a test is deleted as G2, but to the best of my knowledge it wasn't a copyright violation. Alexis Jazz (talk) 19:11, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Alexis Jazz: The nominator said "as per uploader own admission" and your description said "has copyright", and it was not set up as fair use - I don't see anything amiss. Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:17, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Did you even watch it? Did you see the size? My description said I cut it short because the music would be copyrighted. The clip doesn't even last a second and I don't think it even contains any sound at all due to the (ugly) way I had cut it. Even if there had been 1 second of audio, that would be de minimis for a test file. Alexis Jazz (talk) 21:30, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No, the deletion rationale matched the description you wrote. Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:33, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This was the description: "Just testing if I can upload mp4. (I cut it short because the music has copyright and there is no need to upload a large file)"
The original file had copyrighted music, so for the test I cut it short to make sure it wouldn't. And it didn't. In hindsight I guess I should have worded it more clearly. I am so sorry I didn't look up Big Buck Bunny to upload that instead.. Alexis Jazz (talk) 22:24, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Advice

Hello! I noticed that you've changed the protection level of list of fastest-selling products to extended protection. I will like to add Exo's achievement into the page but I want to heed your advice first. I will like to add these three achievements into the concerts section:

I am aware that some sources are in Korean and Japanese which are common as Exo has been promoting in both countries. I feel that the exclusion of this information in the fastest-selling products page is not updated. I hope that these sources justify the inclusion of these concerts. Having read the talkpage, I will also like to apologise for the immature actions of some fans who must be new to Wikipedia. Exo has one of the highest page viewership in Wikipedia and this situation portrays the group and fans in a negative light. Lastly, I will like to seek advice not as a fan of Exo, but as a Wikipedian who wishes to update information in Wikipedia. I hope to receive a response soon. Thank you. Requiem II (talk) 15:22, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Requiem II: I was hoping that after the protection, we would get a nice clear discussion about what should be on the page. Sadly that has not happened, and all we have is various rantings, both on the talk page and endless e-mails at OTRS. The lack of discussion made it clear that these editors were just waiting for the 27th Aug, when the (original) protection ends. So I extended the protection by a month. Checking the history it's clear that the warring is all down to fairly new(ish) accounts. WP:SPAs, and IP - so in the hope of attracting some seasoned editors, who know how to properly edit, I changed it to extended protected. It not a subject I know about (one gets a call on WP:AIV about edit warring, and you have to dive in). The issue (as described at the time) was that a lot of the sources were blogs, fan sites, etc., - effectively written by the fans, and not a proper reliable source. My suggestion (if you are not 100% sure it's a RS), is to ask at WP:RSN. But it would be nice if it gets sorted out before the protection ends. Ronhjones  (Talk) 17:05, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ "EXO thrills fans with 30 songs at KL concert". July 9, 2018.
  2. ^ "엑소, 콘서트 팬가족석 '0.4초'만 매진..28일 가온K팝어워드도 출연". Jan 21, 2015.
  3. ^ "EXO、単独コンサートのチケットが1.47秒で完売に". April 17, 2014.
Thank you for your reply! I've started a discussion at WP:RSN regarding the sources and I'm currently waiting for responses. If they are verified to be reliable, can I include these information into the page myself, or do I need to seek consensus first? Requiem II (talk) 01:08, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Requiem II: Be bold. - WP:BRD - You can discuss if someone objects. Hopefully you can find all the RS, and get it fixed before the fans get back. Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:21, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Images - Futsal Dinamo

Hi, Ronhjones, I've seen you messaged me about the size of the pictures I've put on the Futsal Dinamo's page. The images are less than 100 KB, they should be even smaller? And pleas explane me a little better, what does your message mean, that the pictures will be deleted in one week if I do not reduce them? Thank you for your time, --Jerkovic9 (talk) 17:23, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jerkovic9:Ever one gets fixated about bytes - we don't care, it's pixels that count. 100,000 pixels is the guideline. If the image is over 105,000 pixels...
  1. It gets tagged by RonBot3 as oversized
  2. It gets reduced by DatBot6 (jpg/png), RonBot2 (gif), RonBot4 (svg) (or declared for manual reduce if tif/pdf)
  3. The old version(s) (only) gets revision deleted by RonBot1, 7 days later. Leaving the one current version showing.
Now if you have reduced the image to get under 100kb, then the next reduction can make it a poor image (especially if it's a jpg) - you can either upload on top of the current image the original image and let there be a single reduction by the bot, or reduce it yourself to get under 100,000 pixels first (and not worry about the bytes!) - see what I did on File:Elon Musk's submarine.jpg - original on web site was 1024x576. It was reduced to 600 × 338, with a high compression, when that went to 421 × 237 (and only 17kb) it was poor, taking the original in Photoshop and making a 421 × 237 image of lower compression (108 KB) was a much better picture. Being a jpg makes it do that as it's a lossy compression. Ronhjones  (Talk) 18:14, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly the same person

Thanks for this, although I technically prefer to call it "trolling" rather than "vandalism" when other editors' work (either in the article space or on user/other pages) hasn't been touched directly. Anyway, they're still at it. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 09:20, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Sorry to bother you. But seems the user you just blocked has a new nickname and is making cuts in articles without proof and cutting verified sourced articles. His name is Review 2018. Can you please do something? 

Heraldique21 (talk) 19:42, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ronhjones,

I am not the same user but another and I also removed the contributions of Heraldique21 because there are hoaxes about fake titles (same problem with this user on french Wikipedia). I suggest you block Heraldique21 for vandalism. Thanks. --Review2018 (talk) 19:52, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Review2018

Hello Ron Clearly this user is a fake or troll, who just join Wiki not even an hour ago. I suggest he goes to History class before calling someone qualified a hoax when he is clearly a vandal Heraldique21 (talk) 19:57, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Would you mind reviewing the discussion I've been having with Heraldique21 and Review2018 on their talk pages? One of the reasons I haven't unblocked Review2018 was because I'm assuming they're this IP address you blocked. My own assessment of Heraldique21's edits leads me to conclude that reverting them was appropriate (I've even gone and reverted several more). Ian.thomson (talk) 01:42, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Ian.thomson: It's a weird one. Obviously Heraldique21 is a new editor, and (from where he left the vandal report - WP:BOTREQ!) does not know his way around. But he's been here a short while, made quite a few edits, no warnings up till that time. It did seem at the time that 194.199.4.202 was just hounding him, with a "copy and paste" edit summary and reverting all his edits. I think your message on Heraldique21 is fine - he does need to get good sources for his edits - I don't know about fr-wiki, maybe they are not so hot on WP:RS - he may have been used to a different environment. Review2018 - he's either the IP or a friend. Maybe there is a group following him around... Ronhjones  (Talk) 14:11, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Fr-Wiki appears to have their own versions of WP:V and WP:CITE. Their equivalent of WP:RS is still a part of the WP:CITE page. There's a reason I don't have {{user fr-0}} on my userpage, though.
All I've find on Heraldique21 on Fr-Wiki are four reverted edits with the same goal, promoting Henry Salas-Perez's claims of nobility. I think we've got two SPAs, but I'm less inclined to believe the one that's claiming his claims of nobility are supported by non-existent citations to a legal gazette started by a gov't that was hoping to get rid of the nobility. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:33, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Heraldique21 blocked indefinitely for hoax on French Wikipedia

Hi Ron,

Heraldique21 took us for fools on French Wikipedia with a hoax concerning fake titles given to a guy named "Arnaud Henry Salas-Perez (these affirmations are totally fake : these titles are extinct and have nothing to do with this guy) and he tried to do the same on English Wikipedia.

A sysop blocked him for that on French Wikipédia [2]

Heraldique21 took also everybody for fools on English Wikipedia and because It was difficult for me to explain everything on english Wikipedia, I was blocked by Ian.thomson who firstly trusted him.

But now everything is clear : Heraldique21 has been blocked indefinitely by Ian.thomson as in French Wikipedia and the problem is fixed.

Last thing : Heraldique21 is not a new editor but a sockpuppet of a banned editor on French Wikipedia.

To clear a misunderstanding, I confirm that I am not at all 194.199.4.202, and I hope you trust me this time and you will trust me next time. Best Regards. --Review2018 (talk) 17:42, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Review2018: He obviously has a pre-defined agenda, and knows how to game the system. The problem is not going away just yet - https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%89%B9%E5%88%A5:%E6%8A%95%E7%A8%BF%E8%A8%98%E9%8C%B2/Heraldique21. I've dropped an English speaking ja-wiki admin an e-mail. Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:18, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Ronhjones: Thanks for the information, also Heraldique21 was previously blocked in April 2018 under the name Heraldiqueconnoisseur --Review2018 (talk) 22:27, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Ronhjones: and he was a lot of others sockpuppets [3]... --Review2018 (talk) 04:31, 25 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Review2018:Thanks - I've added those names to that list. That will show he is still active. Ronhjones  (Talk) 12:01, 25 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A cookie for you!

Thanks for the heads up! Infinite0694 (Talk) 14:24, 25 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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