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Your GA nomination of 2018 Kentucky Derby

The article 2018 Kentucky Derby you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:2018 Kentucky Derby for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Matt294069 -- Matt294069 (talk) 08:42, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations! Jlvsclrk (talk) 09:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Jlvsclrk. We did it together. –Ammarpad (talk) 11:36, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Welfare Quality

Hi Ammarpad, thanks for your message. Can you elaborate on how you view the/my Welfare Quality page as promotional? I explicitly tried to avoid this, therefore I am a little disappointed with your uptake of it. This is a multi-institutional, multidisciplinary, multicountry research project, it does not sell anything; not implicitly or explicitly. It only explains the project. I set up the Wikipedia page as an archive of the project and to provide information relevant for farmers, animal welfare groups, and anyone else who wants to know more about research endeavours in animal welfare. This makes it inherently encyclopedic in my view. Please elaborate? Thank you, DNMBeljaars — Preceding unsigned comment added by DNMBeljaars (talk • contribs) 15:08, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please read promotion and conflict of interest editing guidelines/policies for more detailed information. Promotion doesn't occur only when you're trying to sell something, it's far beyond that. You should understand this first. In addition, please read the answer given to you here already.–Ammarpad (talk) 07:36, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CL, October 2018

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Tech News: 2018-41

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23:38, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Nominating Petar Brzica for Deletion

Hi, first of all, sorry if I misunderstood the process on how to nominate an article for deletion. I browsed Wikipedia for that and I'm pretty sure it read somewhere to add Category:Delete to the article and that would open it for deletion discussion. I have now followed the process as described in the deletion policy article. Again, sorry for doing it wrong. Kind regards EviL GaMer (talk) 16:03, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You haven't done it correctly yet. You should read this. –Ammarpad (talk) 08:09, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Canadian roads)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Canadian roads). Legobot (talk) 04:29, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ITN

Re your note, yeah, I figured that out after my last post. It happens sometimes. No prob. Sca (talk) 21:22, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Good. –Ammarpad (talk) 06:59, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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22:40, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Draft:Kanishk Sajnani

Please refer to this discussion at the deletion review? It seems you did something wrong while declining the above submission. 2405:205:C84B:66:2CE6:6E14:8018:80A3 (talk) 11:16, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Then you should tell what I did wrong. Declining your draft or what? The draft was submitted to AFC and found non viable for standalone article apart from being deleted multiple times earlier I declined it, you should read the message left for way forward. The discussion you linked is something different and you can continue your argument there. –Ammarpad (talk) 12:32, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft submissions should only be declined according to WP:AFCSTANDARDS. The message that you left on the draft doesn't stand right according to WP:POLICY. You should also mention the specific guidelines which possibly fail for any submission.
Regarding this particular Draft:Kanishk Sajnani, it had already been established in my above cited discussion that the artilce meets WP:PG. I am more than happy to explain it to you (again) in-detail over here.
1) Let me ask you if there is an offical policy that denies notablity just because the listed sources had taken any kind of inputs(as an interview or otherwise) by the subject of the article himself? Jimbo Wales believes there isn't. Please refer to his comment on this Afd.
The draft listed above has references [3] & [2] that involve no direct inputs from the subject himself. Therefore, it should seem safe to state them as Independent Sources.
"The core policy WP:NOT requires that it be possible to verify a subject with at least one independent source, or else the subject may not have a separate article in Wikipedia." Reference- Relationship to Notability at WP:IS
Also, look closely & you would notice that 5/6 references(stated in the article) are based on the subject's work ONLY(Not passing mentions). Furthermore, WP:BLP1E is only applicable when the subject is notable for a single event, Am I correct? The article states 4 different events(at different times) for which the sources are available. I am not sure if Wikipedia:BLP2E could have been applied, even if it was a real thing. Aren't the above facts enough to tell us that the article complies with the WP:BASIC & WP:GNG (official Wikipedia policies) & hence, it is all the evidence that we need? 2405:205:C84B:F990:2068:B4AF:6B32:497A (talk) 13:31, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

AFCSTANDARD is a loose guideline not hard-and-fast rule and opinion of Jimmy Wales holds no special authority in accepting drafts at AFC as you're wrongly assuming. This semi-promotional article has been deleted four times including three AfDs and once salted but you're fighting for it in multiple fronts, AfD, DRV and talkpages not sure why. You can go and resubmit it for another reviewer to review, this is not the first draft to be declined. –Ammarpad (talk) 14:03, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So your excuse is that "Since it has already been deleted 3 times, I am free to do it again without citing any appropriate reasons?" An AFC reviewer should only be concerned about the recent draft that has been put up for submission.
The Draft for a matter-of-fact is non-promotional at this moment.
"You can go and resubmit it for another reviewer to review, this is not the first draft to be declined." is not exactly the correct way to respond to this.
Also, I know Jimmy wales holds no special authority in accepting drafts at AFC. But, he's surely a lot more experienced than you are here, right? I just gave you every possible explanation as to why declining this particular draft was not right on your part. Stop fighting & please get used to accepting your mistakes. 2405:205:C84B:F990:3D03:6BE7:C269:236C (talk) 14:37, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I did no mistake and I stand with my rejection: get this right and stop grandstanding. The fact that you don't see the problem with article deleted 4 times, three times after full discussions and salted as well as your caviling about it across several forums simultaneously speaks volume. "Jimmy Wales is more experienced than me" (What ever the heck that mean) doesn't give his opinion a sort of heavenly powers as you're wrongly assuming and I said this before and I am repeating for the last time.–Ammarpad (talk) 14:59, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you didn't notice that the SALTing was 5 1/2 months ago. That's enough time for new references to appear. Any experienced editor here knows that. The title is currently UnSALTED F.Y.I. An Admin would have done it obviously after re-reviewing the article. What you term as "caviling" is me merely standing FOR Wikipedia's official rules & guidelines. You still didn't clarify for you actions & did nothing but beat around the bush.
I'm out of here. Peace. 2405:205:C84B:F990:3D03:6BE7:C269:236C (talk) 15:18, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Ammarpad. You have new messages at Talk:Jamal_Khashoggi#Stripping_the_article_of_the_death_section.
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NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Ammarpad, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

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As of 21 October 2018, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.

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23:11, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

Thanks for fixing that citation. Quick and efficient. scope_creep (talk) 11:25, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. –Ammarpad (talk) 13:07, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your deletion of part of Killing of Jamal Khashoggi from Erdogan`s speech

Hi, on the 23rd of October you deleted some things that Turkish President Erdogan said in a speech he made on same day which had been added to the wikipedia article "Killing of Jamal Khashoggi", decribing your deletion by suggesting it was lacking in source, and somehow contentious, neither of which are true. Would you mind undoing your error?126.3.20.194 (talk) 20:56, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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