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Please check new refs in both articles. Thanks as always T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.32.82.245 (talk) 12:26, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
Please check new refs on this page too if you can thanks again T — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.32.82.245 (talk) 09:33, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
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Hi Keith. Please could you kindly have a look at the history of the above article, and give me some idea what to do? The article started as a biography of killer Kate Dover, and included her trial. Paired with it was a biography of the victim, Thomas Skinner. In response to criticism on the article's DYK template, I changed the title to the name of the trial. I then received criticism that the murder victim had an article, the trial had an article, but the killer did not. So, because we had plenty of biography material on the killer, I split the trial article into Trial of Kate Dover and Kate Dover. There is now a single persistent editor who wants to keep changing the header of the Kate Dover article - as far as I can make out, these edits are removing individual notability of Kate Dover so that her biography can be re-merged back into the trial article. I fear that if I do re-merge the biography back into the trial article, the whole circle will go around again. At the moment, everyone seems to be happy with three articles Kate Dover (killer), Trial of Kate Dover, and Thomas Skinner (etcher) (victim). Only one person is constantly arguing for a re-merge and is apparently editing the article to fit that requirement. So what do I do? At the moment I really need to work on the article properly, with more research and clarification of Kate Dover as a stand-alone biography, but this interference is obstructing my work. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 10:01, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, I have had a look but unsure as to what you can now do apart from see the outcome of the RFC that it looks like the other editor has started, though this is not clear from the text. Personally I would go with the separate articles as they were split out as a result of comments by others and there is just a single editor wanting to head for a merge. Probably not much help to you at the moment. Keith D (talk) 20:35, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, Keith. I asked for your assistance because in the past your advice has been very neutral, and because where I have disagreed with your opinion I have nevertheless cooperated with it on the grounds that neutral advice counts. So thank you for your reply, even though you cannot help at the moment. I value an honest reply.
- Meanwhile, regarding the current RFC, as you will have seen, I just want to be able to cooperate and help to resolve any problems. Please could you tell me whether the the RFC is officially preventing me from editing the body of the Kate Dover article, or whether it refers only to the header? If I can perhaps userfy a copy of the body of the article and get it more in line with what the commentators want, then I can resolve a lot of the disjunction which has arisen between header and article-body.
- I should add that the last time I was bullied like that (on William Swinden Barber) it stressed me out to the point that I left WP for a year or two, and that was a pity. I had been helping out a lot as a DYK reviewer (not just QPQs), and of course there is my heavy contribution to Commons. Tomorrow if I am lucky I shall be able to go to Leeds and photograph part of a set of caricatures which had been lost, to contribute to a planned article on a group of artists who were instrumental to the creation of Leeds Art Gallery. I also know where more of their lost art is, and am working on getting a chance to photograph that for Commons. (All C19 and out of copyright of course). But I am only human, and these people don't realise that if they bully a useful contributor, they will lose contributions to WP that no-one else is going to make. So far my WP research has informed English Heritage sufficiently to list two buildings, and has informed Leeds Civic Trust sufficiently to produce two blue plaques for Leeds. So these WP bullies don't realise what they are undermining here. Storye book (talk) 21:27, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- The RFC appears to be concentrating on just the lead so I would say that edits to the body of the article are OK and not covered by the RFC. Keith D (talk) 21:56, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. Storye book (talk) 08:58, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
- The RFC appears to be concentrating on just the lead so I would say that edits to the body of the article are OK and not covered by the RFC. Keith D (talk) 21:56, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- I should add that the last time I was bullied like that (on William Swinden Barber) it stressed me out to the point that I left WP for a year or two, and that was a pity. I had been helping out a lot as a DYK reviewer (not just QPQs), and of course there is my heavy contribution to Commons. Tomorrow if I am lucky I shall be able to go to Leeds and photograph part of a set of caricatures which had been lost, to contribute to a planned article on a group of artists who were instrumental to the creation of Leeds Art Gallery. I also know where more of their lost art is, and am working on getting a chance to photograph that for Commons. (All C19 and out of copyright of course). But I am only human, and these people don't realise that if they bully a useful contributor, they will lose contributions to WP that no-one else is going to make. So far my WP research has informed English Heritage sufficiently to list two buildings, and has informed Leeds Civic Trust sufficiently to produce two blue plaques for Leeds. So these WP bullies don't realise what they are undermining here. Storye book (talk) 21:27, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Please check recent edits. Thanks alwats T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.33.248.139 (talk) 12:05, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
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I mainly found you because I intend to nominate Draft:HasanAli Nodoliya (NRI) for deletion and saw that you made a minor edit. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 16:04, 19 September 2019 (UTC) |
MfD nomination of Portal:Lincolnshire
Portal:Lincolnshire, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Lincolnshire and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Lincolnshire during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:49, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
British to English
A user, using different accounts and IP address, has started repeatedly changing and edit warring to change the lead description on articles from English to British with no genuine reason. They appear to have been based in Holland, but are now back in Brighton and have since opened 2 different accounts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Politovsky https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Capristic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/135.196.181.166 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/81.205.147.245
A prime example of the pov pushing of this editior using the 81.205.147.245 IP - "If his mum is Irish, his dad is Welsh, and he was born in Wales, he is definitely not "English". And your info about his birthplace is conflicting. First you say he was born in Newport, Gwent and then you say he was born in Avonmouth, Bristol. Mistakes happen, but you should not automatically refer to people as "English". That word is a dreadful insult to many". The reference on the article has Evans referring to himself as English. I thought the days of this nonsense on Wikipedia were over. I don't know what to do in this situation, and as an IP editor I doubt I'd be taken that seriously but would appreciate it if you could look into this issue as it is clearly wrong. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:BAC5:7800:E41A:A943:7B18:773C (talk) 12:38, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
archive-date → archivedate
Is there a reason why you're changing it to the alias? BaldBoris 16:48, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
- Only reason is to stop the wrapping which is difficult to spot the dates when it wraps. Keith D (talk) 16:55, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Lunar magma ocean article
Hi Keith, I'm new to editing Wikipedia and I'm currently working on the Lunar magma ocean article. It would be great if you could kindly give me a few pointers on how to improve the article. Viranga13 (talk) 03:00, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hello, the article is way outside my field, but the obvious need of the article is to make it understandable to the average person. There needs to be some links to articles that give explanation of the various terms used or notes added to the article. Another problem with the article is the title should it be Lunar Magma Ocean as used in the text or should the text be de-capitalised as per existing title? Hope this helps. Keith D (talk) 08:44, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you! Please let me know if certain areas of the article need to be made clearer. I just looked through this Wikipedia editing guideline page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Make_technical_articles_understandable and I'll do my best to make the subject as accessible as possible. As for the title, the term that is generally used in the planetary science community is Lunar Magma Ocean. It seems that proper names should be capitalized on Wikipedia articles, but I'm not quite sure how to do that. Viranga13 (talk) 01:20, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Also she considers herself still married to Rene Angelil and he was the only man she ever kissed and loved. And her stylist and dancer Pepe munoz is an openly gay man. Celine has stated she has no nannies to look after her children she has the help from her sister and mom.
Celine doesn’t have any eating disorders and eats whatever she wants she just works out now. Celine twins sleep with her ever since the passing of her beloved husband rene TiannaRoberto31 (talk) 06:35, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
Please check new refs and leave in all quotes - thanks as always T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.33.248.139 (talk) 07:28, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Lincolnshire portal
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A tag has been placed on Category:Lincolnshire portal requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 02:38, 28 September 2019 (UTC)