Talk:Isogloss
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Merge with Isograph article
hekk yeah do it
why should we do it in fact i belive that if we are to link both pages we need a strong and firm transition from point to point so we do not get our readers confused, also if we were to link them we need to know when to stop comparing the two, so we do not get them confused. that is all i have to say hope u all have a very happy christmas A.A —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.148.183.234 (talk) 23:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I don't think it's a good idea to merge the two. An isograph is clearly not closely related to the notion of the isogloss, as isograph relates to research in writing systems and typology whereas isogloss relates to dialectology, phonetics and sociolinguistics - all disciplines studying verbal forms. The two terms are not closely connected and merging them would only serve to confuse. Eculeus (talk) 16:47, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I agree with Eculeus. One is a function of written language whereas the other is a function of verbal language. From a linguistic standpoint they are vastly different considering elements going into each. Spoken language changes faster and has things like phonological variations which wouldn't be represented in an isograph that would in an isogloss. Merging the two would only confuse people... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.28.192.47 (talk) 07:22, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
- Obviously, this has been done nonetheless. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 10:36, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Contradictory definitions
The article intro has two different definitions of the concept: (1) a geographic area, and (2) a linguistic feature. Please remove one of them or explicitly state the relationship between the two definitions. -Pgan002 (talk) 05:12, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Done --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 10:36, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Usage in article still not clear. Intro says geographic boundary, body talks about linguistic features.--Jack Upland (talk) 00:13, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Mention Centum-Satem isogloss
Under section "Examples", please mention (and briefly explain) the Centum-Satem isogloss, which is, according to the intro, the most important example. -Pgan002 (talk) 05:12, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
- Done --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 10:36, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Ancient examples are confusing
In section Examples, there is a notation that may be unfamiliar to readers; for example, what is "/wld/" and what is "w > y"? -Pgan002 (talk) 05:12, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
- Done --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 10:36, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
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Hella Nor Cal or Totally So Cal?: The Perceptual Dialectology of California
The hella/totally isogloss of Northern/Southern (or Greater/Lesser) California is a good example, and has been the subject of some interesting research:
"Hella Nor Cal or Totally So Cal?: The Perceptual Dialectology of California"; Mary Bucholtz, Nancy Bermudez, Victor Fung, Lisa Edwards and Rosalva Vargas; Journal of English Linguistics; 2007; 35; 325
https://escholarship.org/uc/item/6492j904
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0075424207307780
I don't know their copyright status, but it has some hand drawn maps that might be good in this article if possible.
Cartman nationally popularized NorCal's "hella", but he made it clear which side of the hella/totally isogloss he stands on.