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African American task force

FYI, there's a request to create a new task force at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/African-American task force -- 67.70.33.184 (talk) 05:07, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm writing, as the point I would like to make is about a discrepancy; which is that Obama was not 'the first black U.S. president, as it is mistakenly written in the section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans#Social_issues and on the wikipedia page for Obama. Obama is mixed race i.e. mother is completely white, and father is completely black. This does not make him the first black u.s. president as he is the first b&w bi-racial U.S. president However, his wife, was certainly the first black first lady as her heritage is mainly of black descent.


thank you. looking forward to seeing the changes made to all of the wikipedia texts incorrectly referring to Obama as the first black U.S. president. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Streykatt (talk • contribs) 20:08, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"The phrase generally refers to descendants of enslaved black people who are from the United States." - I occurs to me as read the above, that in light of the definition in the opening paragraph, technically, Barak Obama is not African-American either (none of his ancestors were slaves in the USA). He is half-African and half-American, by heritage, I suppose.

See Q2 at Talk:Barack Obama/FAQ. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:20, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edit

Linda Keita has repeatedly changed the population numbers without updating the source. If they're accurate, they can be included with an updated source (I couldn't find a reliable source that confirms the numbers but someone else may have better luck). In the mean time, please stop changing the numbers without changing the cited source.--Cúchullain t/c 16:47, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]


I do not agree with your decision. Bases upon your own demographic representation in the population is steadily declining. The African American population has been noted in Wikipedia over a year at 14.1%.
Race and Ethnicity
Black and African Americans
Clearly states that the African American population is 14% so what do you mean?
Your interest should be too monitor and record the declining Welsh and Irish population. Not, to falsify African American population which is video recorded since last year, until it was contaminated with your false statistics. I will not show you the video's, but am also recording this as you propagandize Wikipedia.
"My interests are broad, but my primary focus is on medieval literature, particularly Irish and Welsh, and I frequently work on articles on the Arthurian legend."Linda Keita (talk) 20:22, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
My "demographic" is not relevant here. Wikipedia's rules require reliable sources for information of this kind. If you have an updated reliable source, the figure can be changed. I can help with this. If not, it's not acceptable, and you may be blocked if you continue reverting.--Cúchullain t/c 21:56, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The cited source is a search function within https://factfinder.census.gov. That source, in a new search, still shows the African-American population to be at 12.6%, based on reporting of a single race. If you're looking at the number of people who report they are African-American in combination with another race, then the total of African Americans rises to 13.6%. So Linda Keita's numbers are not supported. Binksternet (talk) 23:20, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like that settles it.--Cúchullain t/c 00:34, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Suggestion to improve -- controversy over validity of term

I think you should possibly consider adding a section that at least mentions this term "African American" being used as a blanket term for all black people could potentially be considered offensive to those who are black or African, but not American.

Likewise the inference that the only "true blacks" are the descendants of former slaves, which could equally be considered offensive to those not included in that group and also not from the designated geographic region.

Plus the lack of recognition that some descendants of former slaves may have long ago left the American continent, that not all slaves in the United States were of African descent, and so on. Also that not all Africans are black. In fact not even all "blacks" are black. Most of those living in the US don't even come close to being genuinely black (in the chromatic sense).

หมีขั้วโลก (talk) 20:37, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

People who are unfamiliar with with American racial classification...

... may be unaware that "Africa" and "South Africa" are not the same. @Flyer22 Reborn: --Prisencolin (talk) 23:08, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No need to ping me to a talk page I'm obviously watching. I reverted you here and here because, like I stated with the first revert, the lead states that the definition of "African American" encompasses "any of the black racial groups of Africa." The lead sentence of the South Africa article states, "South Africa, officially the Republic of South Africa (RSA), is the southernmost country in Africa." So I asked you, "How are you distinguishing?" What WP:Reliable sources state that South African Americans are not included in the definition of African Americans? I also pointed you to Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Hatnotes and its usage guidelines with my second revert. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:18, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Also, you don't see the top of the Africa article stating, "Not to be confused with South Africa." Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:40, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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