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Your submission at Articles for creation: Kenneth R. Rockwell (July 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by TheImaCow was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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--TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 16:57, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Raymondr1877! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! --TheImaCow (talk • contribs) 16:57, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kenneth R. Rockwell (July 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Loksmythe were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Needs third-party, independent sources. Loksmythe (talk) 17:15, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Kenneth R. Rockwell and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Kenneth R. Rockwell, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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Loksmythe (talk) 17:15, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kenneth R. Rockwell (July 13)

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Jovanmilic97 was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: A forum post and the subject's official website aren't going to establish notability per WP:BIO.

Jovanmilic97 (talk) 18:10, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ken Rockwell (July 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SamHolt6 was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Ken Rockwell and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Ken Rockwell, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

SamHolt6 (talk) 14:44, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ken Rockwell (July 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Amkgp was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Ken Rockwell and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Ken Rockwell, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

~ Amkgp 💬 15:07, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ken Rockwell (July 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by KylieTastic were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Ken Rockwell and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Ken Rockwell, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

KylieTastic (talk) 15:21, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ken Rockwell (July 14)

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Dr. Kadzi was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Unfortunately this person still does not meet notability guidelines, there are not enough reliable independent sources that give K Rockwell significant coverage. You also have had Draft:Kenneth_R._Rockwell rejected and have made this version without consulting the teahouse or asking for help. Not to mention, this page has already been deleted twice for not being notable (I accept this was years ago, but this person still is not notable enough for an article). Sorry.

  Kadzi   (talk) 16:09, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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July 2020

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Your recent talk page comments on User_talk:Dr. Kadzi were not added to the bottom of the page. New discussion page messages and topics should always be added to the bottom. Your message may have been moved. In the future you can use the "Add topic" link in the top right. For more details see the talk page guidelines. I will answer your query soon however please be careful when editing my talk page   Kadzi   (talk) 16:44, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Query regarding Ken Rockwell

thank you for messaging me regarding your rejected draft of Ken Rockwell

I appreciate that you spent your time creating the article, however this subject has not shown to be notable at the time.

The reason for that is that you have not included enough reliable sources that are independent of the source, and show that he has significant coverage. Please study Wikipedia:Notability to understand what this is.

I know that you feel that they are notable, however the sources at the moment simply do not show that.   Kadzi   (talk) 16:47, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Dr. Kadzi: Hi, thank you for your answer, why is a print article of an established magazine (which is not an interview), a TV broadcast and a radio broadcast not enough as sources for an wikipedia article about a "prototype" "influencer", meaning for someone who exists only inside of the internet?

I did read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2008_April_23#Ken_Rockwell

but here non of the independent professional publications I put as references are mentioned...

I'm not the same author, I'm also not connected to the subject of the article, I'm seeing the 'influencer' aspect in its historical context and think this Wikipedia entry is missingRaymondr1877 (talk) 20:03, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate drafts

I don't know what your purpose was in creating more than one copy of the same content in different draft pages, but:

Doing so serves no useful purpose, and can cause various problems, such as making it difficult for editors to keep track of changes.
It is likely to result in reviewers reviewing a draft without being aware of previous reviews, which can lead to their wasting time duplicating work.
It runs the risk that editors may get the impression that you are deliberately and dishonestly trying to be obstructive by hiding the past history of a draft from new reviewers. If people do get that impression you are likely to be blocked from editing.

I shall therefore merge the histories of the two drafts. Since the text of the second draft when it was created was identical to that of the first draft when you abandonned it, the second is effectively a continuation of the history of the first, so merging should cause no problems. JBW (talk) 20:08, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@JBW: hello, thank you for the info, can you delete Draft:Kenneth R. Rockwell please? This was the wrong name (I did not find a proper proof of the name and I did not find a way to change the name of the article,,,) thanks... the second draft is the right one