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Mesha Stele- Authenticity not doubted by any scholars today

Hi Doug. You reverted my edit made on Oct.15 on the Mesha Stele page in the Authenticity section. You said it is "far too strong a statement to be made in Wikipedia's voice." I respect your opinion, however I would like to ask your opinion about 2 things. Firstly, I wrote on the Mesha Stele page: "...provided absolutely conclusive evidence of the Mesha Stele's authenticity" and so taking into account your concern I would like to edit it again , changing it to: " provided evidence for the Mesha Stele's authenticity." Do think this is okay for me to add?

The Khirbat Ataruz Inscribed Altar and its subsequent translation and interpretation by noted scholar Christopher Rollston and A. Bean et al. in the published 2018 Levant article I cited, showed, through its Moabite language text's narrative and linguistic connection to the Mesha Stele , that the famous stele is genuine.

Secondly, do you think that the first paragraph of the Authenticity section should be deleted since it says that several scholars in the early 20th Century doubted that the Mesha Stele was genuine? All scholars and archaeologists today believe the stele is genuine. The view that the Mesha Stele is a forgery has been debunked and in my humble opinion should not be on Wikipedia's Mesha Stele page. It is ultra, ultra fringe and harms Wikipedia's credibility. Would it be okay that I (or if you can do it, I will appreciate it ) delete the first paragraph in the Authenticity section? Take your time to respond Doug.--BuckRogers25 (talk) 03:36, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@BuckRogers25: thanks for your message. I think I've fixed the authenticity issue, let me know what you think, but probably on the talk page. Ping me - eg I wrote {{re|BuckRogers25}}. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch should help you with writing style. I wouldn't use "also" by the way. And as I said in my edit summary, it needs a bit more. When using a journal article a lot of us feel that it's the conclusion or discussion section at the end which should be drawn upon normally rather than the detail. One issue that needs to be considered is that papers such as Rollston et al are [{WP:PRIMARY]] papers and we prefer secondary. When do we use a new discovery? Some editors put it in immediately, others would prefer to wait until it is discussed in secondary sources. See WP:UNDUE. I wish there had been more discussion, it seems as though it only has one citation, in this. But never mind, go ahead. Doug Weller talk 11:25, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your input and advice, Doug.--BuckRogers25 (talk) 05:56, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CIR issue

Hi Doug. I would really appreciate it if you could have a word with this editor who doesn't seem to understand how consensus works. Having seen that both I and Kansas Bear disagree with their cherry picking, and instead of taking a step back to wonder about how they managed to alienate the very editor they invited to the discussion, they are now resorting to calling me "too stubborn", edit warring,[1][2] harassing me[3][4] and probably even socking to force their POV. Best regards. M.Bitton (talk) 14:17, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@M.Bitton: I'm sorry, it's not nice to ask for help and be ignored for two days, many apologies. I see that this has come to some sort of halt. I'm glad they deleted at least one attack on you. If it starts up again, how about an WP:RFC? Doug Weller talk 12:57, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, I really appreciate you taking the time to look into it. The personal attacks aside, what makes any discussion with them nigh on impossible is their complete lack of interest in what anyone else has to say, while expecting the others to pay close attention to their monologue (as clearly demonstrated in their interaction with myself and Kansas Bear). That's why I've given up trying to reason with them and I'm simply waiting for the pinged editors to share their thoughts before inviting Kansas Bear to rejoin the discussion to see whether we could improve the way the information is presented. If we can't, then a multiple choice RfC could be considered. Thanks. M.Bitton (talk) 00:01, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Instruction on Appropriate Procedure

Hi, Doug Weller. What is the appropriate process for closing an ANI thread? It does not seem that any of the participating parties in the article content discussion are willing to adjust behavior, and it seems futile to continue investing energy into the article content discussion. 021120x (talk) 23:16, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Noting that this editor was blocked today for a week due to battleground behavior, POV-pushing, and personal attacks. Doug Weller talk

Fine People Hoax

Hi, regarding the Unite the Right edit, the identity of the "some people" in the USA Today article is explained in more detail further down the article (have to scroll past all the ads!). --Pakbelang (talk) 03:55, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

disruptive editor

Edion Petriti is getting to be a major nuisance (see Gospel of Matthew and its talk page. Can anything be done? Achar Sva (talk) 09:56, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Londinium

I don't think you can have intended your edit at [5]. Can you take a look. Dudley Miles (talk) 12:32, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DJ Foxx Tha Roc

There were some issues with the article below https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:DJ_Foxx_Tha_Roc

I have since made some changes with additional information and would like to request for the article to be reviewed for publishing. Thanks. Francinelumbala (talk) 14:03, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

POV PUSHING and Bans

It's very interesting for me to see that anyone making neutral edits on Wiki gets blamed of POVPushing. The last edit I made was reverted and called POVPushing for simply mentioning ethnicities of Pakistan and Ethnic poets. The one before that was reverted when all modern day nation states such as Afghanistan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan were mentioned in the wiki page of 'Journey to the West', but when I simply put Pakistan there it was removed as POVPushing? All my edits are undone by Indians who have Systemic Biases against Pakistan and don't even allow Pakistanis to edit pages on their own history because the moment one does it automatically becomes POVPushing for them. The current Wiki Page on 'Pakistani Nationalism' was edited by an Indian who removed all the original content and shifted it with Anti Pakistan narratives and how Pakistani nationalism is redundant. But when we try to edit it back, we are said to be POVPushing. Don't believe me? go check the wikipage yourself. All countries and their history is mentioned by their contemporary names, yet when it comes to Pakistan and we put the name of our country over regions which existed in this country, it is magically POVPushing? It is honestly shameful for me to see that Wiki is now a site which is solely run by people who are biased towards a certain community and have the backing of actual supposed neutral moderators. I hope you can reconsider and actually look into the edits of mine that are claimed to be POVPushing and see if literally mentioning ethnicities of Pakistan is somehow POVPushing and if it still makes you feel as if it is POVPushing, then you can go ahead and permanently block my account because I'd find it shameful to be a part of a community that is supposed to impart knowledge to millions of people but casually overlooks systemic bias in their own community. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mehtar10 (talkcontribs) 14:42, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adams bridge page

Respected sir It has been suggested to me by the editors of my page to merge the page with the Adam's bridge page. You deleted the changes while I was in the process of doing it.