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Proposal of a Controversy section

Ben Shapiro is no stranger to controversy. In a sense, he has built his career on it. If you're not a Shapiro fan, you'll see this as him being a hateful right-wing personality. If you are a Shapiro fan, you'll see it as him exposing the left's outrage culture with facts. In any case, it's undeniable that Shapiro is controversial. I would therefore not argue that all of his controversial views should be listed under Controversy, but there are three in particular that I think should be under consideration for that. One is his comments about Middle-Easterners living in open sewage and the like, which were widely deemed offensive and which Shapiro has since apologized for. The other two are interwoven, and those are his claim that the majority of Muslims are actually radicalized, and alongside this his support of killing the families of terrorists. When President Donald Trump made comments along these lines, his page immediately lit up with controversy, but Shapiro's lacks this. I am not a believer that a Controversy section should be a biased thing, nor that it should suddenly be filled every time someone doesn't like something Shapiro says. What I am saying is that it should exist to denote controversies primarily of a racial or possibly prejudiced nature. Jokes about Shapiro's reaction to the song WAP? Not a controversy. Comments about killing the families of terrorists? Controversy. I therefore propose a Controversy section on Shapiro's page, which I think is long overdue. What are everyone's thoughts? PickleG13 (talk) 17:53, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Have you read Wikipedia:Controversy sections? -- Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:18, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've read the page. I think we should implement what PickleG13 suggests but to be more creative and specific with regards to what to call the section. Don't merely call it "Controversy". Call it something more creative like "Controversial Political Activisms and Stunts" Im not afraid (talk) 07:33, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

He also said that hip hop is not music. - Dark Lord Thomas Pie

It isn't. 86.5.158.68 (talk) 16:24, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Music section

This section needs some work. It's focusing on a minor detail in the broad umbrella of Ben Shapiro's musical taste. Also, is his taste in music relevant to encyclopedic coverage? Maybe so, maybe not. If so, this section ought to be a bit more comprehensive. Also, the mentioned tweet is almost certainly meant as a joke. Shapiro's sense of humor relies heavily on sarcasm and mockery. This isn't stated in the cited article. On another note, a better citation would be nice if possible; the Mary Sue article cited is pretty clearly primarily aimed at mocking Shapiro and not trying to make meaningful commentary on his views (mockery against mockery! I love American politics...) Ashorocetus (talk | contribs) 16:23, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2020

Simply change it from "conservative" political commentator to right-wing political commentator XXXNerdSlayerXXX (talk) 20:25, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

LGBT Section Shapiro/Tur interaction is mischaracterized.

In the LGBT rights section the following sentence is misleading.

"After Shapiro repeatedly referred to Tur, who is a trans woman, with male pronouns, she placed her hands around his neck and threatened on air to send him "home in an ambulance".

It should read:

"After Shapiro repeatedly referred to Tur, who is a trans woman, with male pronouns, she placed a hand on the back of his neck and threatened on air to send him "home in an ambulance".

The original sentence makes it sound like she was threatening to choke him. You can watch the interaction on YouTube. She placed one hand on the back of his neck and made the statement after he called her "sir".

 Already done -ink&fables «talk» 10:46, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Additionally, I made an edit to the same section. Shapiro referred to Jenner with male pronouns, not to Tur. The heated exchange between Shapiro and Tur began when he referred to Tur as "sir". The cited sources say the exact same thing so I did not modify the sources. -- zaiisao (talk | contribs) 06:44, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]