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dump[edit] in the format (National Security Council's Deputies Committee)

Company (Essential)[edit]



Some bubble tea for you![edit]

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Thank you[edit]

Thank you for telling me what "bint" means on the talkpage of the article on Fatimah. The proposal to rename this page has been mentioned on Wikipedia: WikiProject Biography, so it seems there is a possibility debate will be generated. Vorbee (talk) 18:17, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Johndoe10001 and external links[edit]

Hi Emir of Wikipedia, I recently noticed that Johndoe10001 recently reverted one of your edits, the same user has been reverting my edits over external links as well over the past couple weeks. There is currently a discussion going on concerning this topic and if you are so inclined you may contribute to the conversation. However if you do not feel inclined please do not feel pressured to take part in the conversation, or you may even defend Johndoe10001's edits if you wish. Happy editing Inter&anthro (talk) 21:52, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert[edit]

I don't know why I had done this edit, thanks for the revert. --Mhhossein talk 16:13, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Power Rangers (film)[edit]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Power Rangers (film) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. Time2wait.svg This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Kevin Dewitt -- Kevin Dewitt (talk) 21:41, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Power Rangers (film)[edit]

The article Power Rangers (film) you nominated as a good article has failed Symbol oppose vote.svg; see Talk:Power Rangers (film) for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Kevin Dewitt -- Kevin Dewitt (talk) 04:02, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

@Legoktm and Legobot: This GAN was not failed. Why does the bot say this? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 13:06, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
You can find your response here. --Mhhossein talk 12:05, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

iabot revert[edit]

Sorry for the terse revert, but that was a really annoying bot malfunction. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:00, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Or was it by design? Sorry if you actually did mean to replace all the links now to prevent linkrot later... --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:44, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
@SarekOfVulcan: That is what I did, but the page should now be in the database so it will hopefully make the edits when the links actually begin to rot. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:49, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
Cool. Sorry for the confusion, I hadn't been paying close enough attention to that use of the bot. Thanks! --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:51, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Possibility of providing your input on a Peer Review for Regine Velasquez's entry[edit]

Hi Emir of Wikipedia,

I'm writing to ask whether you would consider having a look at the article. I'm aware that you've been involved with a few PRs before. I've given it a major rewrite and complete overhaul. I began working on the article late October when it looked like this and somehow ended up rewriting the whole thing and aiming for potentially FA. This isn't a process I've been through before, but I have been reading the reviews here in preparation, and am familiar with FAC demands. I would very much appreciate a fresh set of eyes and happily address any concerns you may have.

Thanks! Pseud 14 (talk) 05:54, 7 December 2017 (UTC)



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Thank you for quality articles such as Power Rangers (film), for articles and project work for project United Arab Emirates, for reviewing, fighting a backlog, for welcoming countless new users, for improving accessibility, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:18, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Thanks for this. It is nice to be appreciated. I am grateful for you giving out this award, and I hope it helps to keep users on this project who feel like they are not being recognized. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 13:25, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, I feel understood! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:27, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Saudi monarch infoboxes[edit]

Perhaps King and Prime Minister should be in the infoboxes as separate positions, which they actually are. GoodDay (talk) 15:44, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

@GoodDay: That sounds reasonable to me. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:46, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you for being a great editor. Cheers! CookieMonster755 𝚨-𝛀 04:07, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Reverting to add sources[edit]

Hi, which button do you press to do a revert, but still edit? Sir Joseph (talk) 16:02, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

@Sir Joseph: The WP:undo button. It is more useful that a rollback (both Twinkle and userright) as it notifies the user that the issue has been resolved without needing to ping them. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 16:17, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll have to remember to start using that one. BTW, I did get a ping that my edit was reverted. Sir Joseph (talk) 16:25, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
I meant a manual ping. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 16:29, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Bella Hadid[edit]

Hi The video is free, you could upload another photo from the video. --Panam2014 (talk) 14:08, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

I'll take a look and see if I can see a better photo. Grateful for you finding the video though. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 14:11, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi. Could you upload a new photo ? --Panam2014 (talk) 12:30, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
@Panam2014: Actually I'll ask at Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Photography workshop for them to remove the text. Looking at that video the screenshot you took was probably the best. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 12:41, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mohammad bin Salman[edit]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Mohammad bin Salman you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. Time2wait.svg This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Averroes82 -- Averroes82 (talk) 01:04, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Exo discography / Using scripts that change dashes[edit]

Hi. You recently used a few scripts on Exo discography. Generally these were pretty helpful changes, however, you used a script that changed en dashes to em dashes. Please be careful when using these on discographies in future, as em dashes are the standard for chart columns and the changes are often inconsistent. Thanks. Ss112 03:11, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Stanisław Ryszard Dobrowolski[edit]

You either substantiate this tagging at talk where I've explained my views or else you remove this tag. Thanks. Polska jest Najważniejsza (talk) 16:51, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

IP editor at Weinstein effect‎‎[edit]

Sorry to revert you there. As penance I have warned the IP editor that they really really need to use edit summaries! Cheers DBaK (talk) 17:24, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

PS Sorry about the very bad typing in my edit summary there! I just reread it ... oh dear. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 17:27, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for helping with False allegations edit[edit]

Hello Emir,

You recently reverted some of my edits and let me know why in a helpful way. I am relatively new to Wikipedia and I appreciate you helping me learn proper policies. I know Wikipedia says to "be bold," but I obviously didn't understand the limits and want to do everything by the book. I will take it to the talk page because I'm certain scrutiny will reveal the truth :)

Take care, Plantlady223 (talk) 17:24, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

@Plantlady223: Hi. You have said "False allegations", but I have not edited a page with a name like that. Am I right in thinking you are on about the section on MeToo? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:35, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
@Emir of Wikipedia: Yes, I meant that section on that page. I'm still learning. :) Plantlady223 (talk) 17:48, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
Not a problem. If you want help learning then feel free to contact me. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:51, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
Is it okay if I contact you after I make the section on the Talk page? Just in case you had suggestions. Plantlady223 (talk) 17:55, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
That's fine. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:55, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
Actually, I had one more question. When I'm helping make a biography of a living person, what is the best way to get a picture that's allowed? Is it okay if I take my own picture of them? (I was just curious as an example; I don't think I'll see anyone in person) What about pictures taken by other people? Plantlady223 (talk) 18:18, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

─────────────── The best way would be if you took a picture and uploaded it to Commons, however you would obviously have to put it under a suitable license. With regards to other people's pictures you would have to find a suitably incensed one or persuade a photograph to release it under a suitable license and then upload that to Commons. However with regards to deceased people you can use a copyrighted image under fair use like I recently used File:Hal Finney (computer scientist).jpg at Hal Finney (computer scientist), but this requires certain criteria being fulfilled. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 18:23, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much for answering my questions. I felt so lost and you're making it seem more straightforward. I started documenting the point on the Talk page. I'm going through the stats one by one because every source I've looked at so far is either fake or doesn't match what is said in book. I know that Wikipedia wants to make sure everything is sourced properly to ensure accuracy. Does this look good to you, should I keep going? Plantlady223 (talk) 22:10, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
Thats look like some good work you have done. I will discuss there about this issue to help keep it open for others to contribute. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:40, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Lalvia's talk page[edit]

She can revert warnings. There are only a few things that can't be reverted, eg block requests while the block is in place. I did revert someone else's BLP violation. Doug Weller talk 14:02, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

I know, and that's why I linked to WP:OWNTALK in the edit summary. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 16:51, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Ah. I was confused about the revert and the link. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 17:06, 9 January 2018 (UTC)


Hi, could you please join in these two move discussion – Bhavana (actress) and Robin Hood (2009 film). Let There Be Sunshine (talk) 17:57, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Diana Prince[edit]

Diana Prince should be a separate article from Wonder Woman. The character Diana Prince was not just Wonder Woman, but Diana White, the person who Diana took the identity from. She could be an alternate version of Wonder Woman otherwise but not to be merged with Wonder Woman to avoid confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adwonder (talkcontribs) 06:51, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

@Adwonder: Please discuss at Talk:Wonder Woman#Proposed merge with Diana Prince. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 09:21, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Why not?[edit]

Because the template was originally placed in December 2017 and the dates were subsequently changed by an account who added unsourced POV cruft (that has since been removed) to the article. Seems like the date of original templates' placements should generally be retained within WP (for instance, templates can place an article within internal housekeeping categories) unless there is a clear reason within WP policies/guidelines to change it. Shearonink (talk) 20:01, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

@Shearonink: But how are we meant to know then when it has been checked? Template:EngvarB says This is a dated template. After an article has been initially tagged, and bearing in mind article evolution, periodic script or bot runs clean up spellings, correcting any new introductions since its last visit, and updating the visit date on the template. and Template:Use dmy dates says After being tagged, and bearing in mind article evolution, periodic script or bot runs clean up formats, correcting any new introductions since its last visit, and updating the visit date on the template. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:15, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
So then the template is supposed to be the date the bot/s run their clean-ups etc., not necessarily the date that the template was added to the article....Ok, yeah. But the user who altered the dates in this case wasn't a bot. It's fine. Shearonink (talk) 23:11, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Power Rangers (film)[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 11 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Power Rangers (film), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that all five of the surviving members of the original cast of the Power Rangers series attended the film adaption's Los Angeles premiere in March 2017? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Power Rangers (film). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Power Rangers (film)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:04, 11 January 2018 (UTC)


Hi I just wanted advice the article about askari seems a bit opioniated the birth of his son has been disputed for l9ng and should have somethinf to balance it. I think it will improve the quality of article if we had major perspectives from mainstream sunni sources who say his borth was a hoax. (talk) 16:52, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

I presume you mean Hasan al-Askari, am I right? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 16:53, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Yes I need someone who also edits the page to discuss before I edit since yoir admin I discuss with you first. Becuase opposition is likely shall I take this discussion to the talk page instead? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)
I am not an admin, but I do suggest that the article talkpage is best. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:23, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Essential Phone[edit]

X Prize Foundation[edit]

Moved to User talk:Zach xprize § Welcome!: Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:51, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Emir,

I just received your message in regards to the X Prize Foundation article (

Yes, I do work for the Foundation. We had some requests to clarify some items on our article since they were not accurate. The main summary of changes were as follows:

- The Tricorder XPRIZE was awarded, so I moved that to past contests and added the end year. - We launched two new competitions last year, the Women's Safety and Water Abundance XPRIZEs. I added brief overviews for them. - Removed something listed as a Future XPRIZE that is no longer being pursued. - The Board of Trustees don't run the organization, the Board of Directors (a subset of the Trustees) do. The Trustees are still very active in what we do though, so I separated them out. This change to board structure happened ~2 years ago.

I hope I was able to update the page in an objective manner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zach xprize (talkcontribs)

Thank you for going above and beyond[edit]

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Thank you so much for all your help with editing, sourcing, understanding Wikipedia policies, etc., and for being overall clear and informative. I really appreciate it because you've gone above and beyond the line of duty. Plantlady223 (talk) 20:13, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Symbiotic binary[edit]

Many thanks for straightening out what I originally started as an "uncontroversial" technical request. Everything looks great now. Lithopsian (talk) 19:58, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Template move[edit]

Hi, Emir of Wikipedia: thanks for having made the template move I requested (from Template:Rapid transit in Chile to Template:Urban rail transit in Chile); I'm sorry to bother you again, but something went wrong in the redirect: now in the pages (e.g. Santiago Metro) that contain the "old" template, the navbox is linking to a non-existent template Urban Rail transit in Chile (with a capital R): could you please verify and try to fix the problem? I really appreciate any help you can provide. Best regards, (talk) 22:17, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

I made a redirect from the name with a capital R, but as there was just a few uses of the template currently I just went and changed them manually. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:35, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Thank you! It was silly of me not to have thought about a "manual" fixing... d'oh! (talk) 22:55, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Emir[edit]

Hi Emir, how are you doing? Just wanted to put out a note per this edit of yours that the script User:Lourdes/WDLH.js had been changed to User:Lourdes/Backlinks.js. You can perhaps change the name WDLH in your js file to Backlinks.js. Thanks, Lourdes 01:39, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Muhammad bin Salman[edit]

Hello Emir, I posted recently on the talk page of Mohammed bin Salman. I’ve prepared some potential new paragraphs here in my sandbox for Vision 2030 and Domestic reforms. They cover some of the main initiatives he announced last year, and also further developments in women's rights. Let me know if you can review. Thank you. MOCI KSA (talk) 12:03, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

@MOCI KSA: Sorry for the late reply. Thankfully another editor has approved you changes in the meantime. Your username might be problematic as it just the initial for Ministry of Culture and Information Kingdom of Saudi Arabia which could imply shared use. Could you please see Wikipedia:Changing username and add a personal identifier or something to make it look like the account is not shared. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 12:21, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
@Emir of Wikipedia: thanks for getting back and I get your point on my username – I don’t share this account but I guess it could be viewed that way so I’ll submit a username change request. Thanks. MOCI KSA (talk) 06:44, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Hello Emir, I’m just checking to see if you saw my talk page post about the section in Mohammad bin Salman on human rights activists. It’s quite in-depth but if you do have time I’d very much welcome your view on the points I’ve raised. Thanks. Tarafa15 (talk) 07:36, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Real News Update[edit]

What is the purpose of this? It's not like a double-!voted. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 18:09, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Just so that the closer knows who that the vote is by the opener of the RfC, nothing more nothing less. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 18:52, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Removed with this edit by an admin. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 11:46, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

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Shendoah (talk) 22:59, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Mung beans[edit]

Thank you! Imagine Reason (talk) 23:33, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mohammad bin Salman[edit]

The article Mohammad bin Salman you nominated as a good article has failed Symbol oppose vote.svg; see Talk:Mohammad bin Salman for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Averroes82 -- Averroes82 (talk) 02:41, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

American nationalism and Steve Miller[edit]

Hi Emir,

On the RS Noticeboard, you commented regarding American Nationalism. You got me interested in this. Here is an article on it that I thought you might enjoy: American nationalism. I hope I'm never too learned to still be able to learn.

One passer by (talk) 12:27, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Palm Beach Clubs proposal[edit]

Hi, Emir - I created a proposal with text and references for the addition of the Palm Beach Clubs section in the article per your request. Atsme📞📧 16:35, 3 March 2018 (UTC) Just adding something I just read - interesting take...but then, who believes CNN polling? 00:58, 4 March 2018 (UTC) One more - I checked the the AP poll they cite. Out of 1,337 adults the poll included a total of 388 black respondents, who were sampled at a higher rate than their proportion of the population for purposes of analysis. They obviously averaged the two according to the chart at the bottom of the page.Atsme📞📧 01:09, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

@Atsme: Thanks for mentioning about the poll. If it is included in the article then the mention of the sample should be included too. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:25, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Taweelah[edit]

Hello, Emir of Wikipedia. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Taweelah".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Legacypac (talk) 08:41, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Request for a page review.[edit]

Hi Emir of Wikipedia I have seen that you are a new page reviewer and so I would like you to review my article Rungano Nyoni. Thank you. Chabota Kanguya (talk) 12:42, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Question about duplicate comment[edit]

Hi, Emir - was that duplicate comment at VP (policy) something that happened when I posted my comment? I've been having some issues and don't know what's causing it. Atsme📞📧 17:41, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

@Atsme: It looks like you did it when you made this edit. No ideas about your issues though, so I can't help with that sorry. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:47, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for catching it right away. Atsme📞📧 18:37, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Rashid bin Mohammed Al Maktoum[edit]

Some new edits at Rashid bin Mohammed Al Maktoum, since you've stopped vandalism there before thought it might warrant your attention. Don't know how much to revert. Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 20:01, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Sockpuppet advice[edit]

Hi! I've seen that you've reported a number of suspected sockpuppet accounts of Thepoliticsexpert. I've recently taken a couple of articles originally created by this user to AfD, and on one there are two keep !votes and a backhanded delete !vote from single-purpose accounts. One of these also removed my PROD from another, now-deleted at AfD, article created by Thepoliticsexpert. Given the sockpuppet activity associated with this user, I was wondering whether this behaviour is sufficient evidence to take these accounts to sockpuppet investigation? This isn't something I've had to deal with before — I hope you don't mind my asking your advice. Thanks in advance! Ralbegen (talk) 16:00, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

The three accounts mentioned have now been blocked indefinitely as sockpuppets. Ralbegen (talk) 19:28, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
@Ralbegen: Sorry for not replying promptly. In the future I suggest you just go straight to the SPI at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Thepoliticsexpert, this is a problematic user who has been engaging in cross-wiki abuse for quite a while now and therefore I suspect many people will be looking at the SPI who can help if I can't. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:04, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Page curation questions[edit]

I notice this in my watchlist:

  • (Page curation log); 14:43 . . Emir of Wikipedia (talk | contribs) marked User:E to the Pi times i/Maintenance as reviewed

Can you explain what that means to me? I've read Wikipedia:Page Curation, but I'm not sure I understand the implications in this case. E to the Pi times i (talk | contribs) 15:33, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

@E to the Pi times i: It just means that the page is fine so there is not really any implications in this case. Page curation is mainly used to review pages in the article space but all new pages such as your User:E to the Pi times i/Maintenance come in it too. If a page had violated WP:UPNOT then I would have tagged it for deletion. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:47, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
Glad to know that there are nice friendly reviewers protecting Wikipedia's encyclopedic goals. E to the Pi times i (talk | contribs) 15:57, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

How is linking to a source copyright violation?[edit]

Asking genuinely in good faith. Referring to your edits on Talk:Mohammed_bin_Rashid_Al_Maktoum#Sheikha_Shamsa_Al_Maktoum_incident . The video linked is a statement by person and channel is managed by the legal firm representing that person. Ohsin (talk) 13:52, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

@Ohsin: Please see WP:LINKVIO. It doesn't matter if the video is a statement by the person or not it matters whether it is copyright infringement or not. The website mentioned in the description of the video attributes the screenshots to "Detained in Dubai" which is different to the uploading page of "Escape from Dubai". --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 13:56, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Detained in Dubai manages that Youtube channel with name 'Escape from Dubai' and website check their contact details Ohsin (talk) 14:18, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
That website doesn't say they manage the YouTube channel it just says their are in association with them. Even still if we use that source we must be careful to comply with all policies. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 14:25, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
I am not sure who owns the video, apparently it was distributed by an unnamed US attorney. Detained in Dubai press release links to same video and it is the primary source to surface publicly with the news, the Mail Online article that broke the news also links to 'Escape from Dubai' website with that video embedded. May be distributor wants to be anonymous? Ohsin (talk) 16:15, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
If you are unaware of the copyright owner then it is best to avoid linking to the video directly. We can however use reliable sources that analyse it. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 16:19, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Ammar Naskshawani[edit]

Hi Emir of Wikipedia,

I wanted to request your support in updated Seyed Ammar's wikipedia. I have noticed you rolled it back. However, in light of some updates, the updates I made were authenticated (some by Seyed Ammar himself) and other's by materials online. Can we revert the version to the one before rollback? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snowbird2017 (talkcontribs)

@Snowbird2017: What do you mean by Seyed Ammar himself? Do you have a WP:COI? --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 14:30, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
@Emir of Wikipedia: No WP:COI - but things that were verbally confirmed through interviews/lectures. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snowbird2017 (talkcontribs)
In that case can you please discuss the changes at Talk:Ammar Naskshawai, this means that other people interested and knowledgeable --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:29, 1 April 2018 (UTC) about the topic can help. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:29, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
According to his Harvard webpage ( the Official spelling of his name is Nakhjavani. Additionally, his most recent academic post is at Harvard. As per the biography, his post before that was at Hartford Seminary. I would update the description on the main page to reflect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snowbird2017 (talkcontribs)
Please discuss at Talk:Ammar Nakshawani, and also sign your posts with ~~~~. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 19:32, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Reception: Review Scores[edit]

Hi Emir,

nearly every movie mentions some kind of 'user-generated scores' (like imdb, rotten tomatoes etc.) in their reception section, just like Terminator 2: Judgment Day or Titanic.

I don't think there is any kind of restriction as these scores are well-established.

Best regards PassioEtDesiderium — Preceding unsigned comment added by PassioEtDesiderium (talkcontribs) 01:27, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

@PassioEtDesiderium: I have removed the IMDb references from Terminator 2: Judgment Day and what I think you meant Titanic (1997 film). With regards to RT there is a difference between the critic scores and user scores. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 19:50, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


I'm trying to figure out this edit. Is the lead transcluded somewhere, or is something else going on? -- BullRangifer (talk) PingMe 04:39, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

@BullRangifer: Portal:Donald Trump/Intro included an outdated (and possibly copyright violating) version of the lead. To fix these issues I attempted to transclude the lead, but the technical version of the lead includes things not needed for the portal so I made a special section for the actual lead text. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 18:41, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Ah ha! Makes sense. -- BullRangifer (talk) PingMe 18:46, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

DS alert[edit]

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Sock of Ehsan iq?[edit]

Since you filed the latest SPI concerning Ehsan iq, would you care to check the edits of WeWuzPhoenicians?

WeWuzPhoenicians editing mirrors on Tiberius Julius Balbillus and Titus Julius Balbillus articles. --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:39, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

@Kansas Bear: I am sorry but I won't be much help there based on behavioral analysis. The only reason I reported it at Ehsan_iq was because an IP randomly brought up that account and admitted to being blocked. It looks like the IP you have mentioned has already been blocked as it matched the range of previous IPs, as the edits are similar I could say that the accounts might be linked but I don't really know the socks behaviours. Apologizes for not being more helpful. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:34, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
That's fine. I believe in ROPE. :) --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:36, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Your note at NeilN's talk page[edit]

Hi, Emir! Just a comment regarding this edit: when you are suggesting that a user may be a problem or suggesting that an eye be kept on them - is it really a good idea to ping that user in your message? --MelanieN (talk) 22:51, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

If they are not a problem with regards to the their username then can defend themselves there. With regards to their editing that is a separate issue that I have not really looked into, but obviously an admin like you can help with that. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:54, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Merge proposal about Charles and Diana[edit]

Hi Emir. As you are already aware there has been a proposal suggested since March 2018 for two different articles to be merged into the article about Charles and Diana's wedding. As you and I have already opposed it and there has been no "support" votes in over a month, is it possible for me or you to close the discussion, or should I ask an administrator to do it? Keivan.fTalk 17:00, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

@Keivan.f: I closed the discussion. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 19:55, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
@Keivan.f: My close was reverted by Capmo --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 19:11, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
I know, and I don't know why he resists on merging those pages. Is there anyway we can close it again or should we just wait for a consensus? Keivan.fTalk 22:45, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
I left a new message on the article's talk page. It's absolutely ridiculous to have those articles merged when we have separate pages for the birdal gowns of lesser known princesses. If these pages get merged, then basically all of those other pages need to get merged as well. Keivan.fTalk 23:05, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
I'll for someone else to close it but thanks for the new message on the article talk page. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 19:07, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Please explain lead transclusion[edit]


I'd like to use the lead transclusion method you applied on Portal:Donald Trump/Intro, but I can't get it to work with any other topic.

This works: {{#section:Donald Trump|Lead text}}

This doesn't work: {{#section:Physical geography|Lead text}}

What is {{#section:}}, and please provide links to documentation on this.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   23:18, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

P.S.: please {{ping}} me in your reply.

@The Transhumanist: Hello. You are probably aware of this already but please see Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Ending the system of portals before putting in any time, effort, or hard work in the portals that may soon be undone.
The lead transclusion method I used at the Donald Trump portal is to transclude a manually marked section. {{#section:}} transcludes a section of a page, the technical lead includes the the infobox and the hatnote so I marked the actual lead text with <section begin=Lead text /> and <section end=Lead text />, you can obviously label this something else instead of "Lead text". This is documented at Help:Labeled_section_transclusion#Section_marking, there could perhaps be a more elegant solution but this works. Hope this helps, sorry if it is a bit confusing but I can't think how else to word it. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 14:43, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I am aware of the of the MfD that was posted as an RfC. The primary way that deletions are averted is to fix the problem with the nominated page(s) while the deletion discussion is taking place. Fixing 1500 pages is a challenge, but a worthwhile one, I believe. Also, unless the opinions of the newcomers to the discussion shift radically toward deletionist, the portals are safe. Currently, there is no new consensus. leaving the portals to people wishing to improve them. Once the problems are fixed, the rationales to delete them will be minuscule in the face of the support to keep them.
Looking over the problems of portals reported in the discussion, they boil down to 1) out of date / lack of maintenance (lack of volunteer labor) 2) useless (static / unchanging) and 3) low traffic (few repeat visits).
The 3rd is to be expected, since portals get their traffic internally, rather than from external search engine results. Traffic would naturally be higher if users found portals worthwhile enough to return to them. Dynamic content, in the form of randomly generated on-topic selections, would be a valuable service, turning the portals into a form of periodical or newsletter.
The initial design concept for portals was that they would each be a main page for a subject. The reality has been that they have become a snap shot (one day's version) of a main page for their respective subjects. Imagine if Wikipedia's main page never changed its content. That portals never became what they were envisioned to be is the crux of the matter here.
I believe the solution is automation, which is why I am interested in the method you used. Refreshing the intro entry so it doesn't go stale, using transclusion, is one form of automation that can help. Thank you for taking the time to explain it to me.
By the way, you were right about there being more elegant solutions. For example:
{{#invoke:String|match|pattern='''.+|s = {{#lsth:Water}}}}
That transcludes the lead from water, but only everything after the first bold code, in order to skip hatnotes and gripe tags. The regex in that example could be modified to remove templates as well, and infoboxes, etc. The benefit of this approach is that it requires absolutely no coding to be added to the source pages.
I'm looking for volunteers interested in helping to make portals configurable and automated, to turn them into specialized main pages that do not rely on human labor to keep them maintained. In addition to programmers, we need designers, to help figure out what portals need to be able to do, to locate where the resources (content) are for accomplishing that, and discern how to differentiate that content so that it can be selected automagically.
Are you interested? If I created a page or thread to share ideas on improving portals, would you drop in from time to time to comment?    — The Transhumanist   01:12, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
P.S.: please {{ping}} me in your reply.
@The Transhumanist: I think you should mention at the RfC that you have solutions to the problems. With regards to helping with other portals I don't really have that much experience but I would be willing to learn and contribute if you made a page or thread about their improvement. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:20, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
I think the RfC has nearly run its course. To make it in before someone archives it, I've posted a response there; and I used some of the wording you inspired above. (Thank you). By the way, you have yourself a deal. I'll let you know when a project page is ready.    — The Transhumanist   23:12, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
I've been looking around the portals, and they are rather impressive. I don't see what the naysayers are complaining about. It is true that many of the pages are static and so the repeat visitors (editors) probably got bored with them. But there seems to be an endless supply of new readers, as page traffic remains pretty steady.
As I peruse them, I keep finding gems. Like the fully automated Portal:Wikimedia featured content.
Okay, I'm working on the page you suggested above about improving portals. I think I'm not even half done with it yet. Would you mind taking a look at what's there so far, and let me know what you think of it, whether it is easily understandable, how it can be improved, and so on? I intend to write opening statements for each of the empty sections on the talk page, but I don't think I've even identified all the features of portals yet. There will be a discussion section for improving the design of each common component.
Any and all feedback, ideas, and suggestions are welcome. Feel free to post them below...    — The Transhumanist   12:59, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
P.S.: please {{ping}} me in your reply. Thank you. -TT
@The Transhumanist: WP:WPPORT looks like a good start. The main thing I would suggest now is to highlight this to other editors, we don't want this to end up inactive like people claimed about portals. Also if you are not aware there template:nw which writes a message asking to be pinged in replies instead of manually typing, something else that we can somewhat automate 😊. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:47, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
There's no danger of it becoming inactive while we're around. It's not ready for prime time yet. The revamp needs to be completed before spreading the word. But, you need not worry, I will be sending out invites. As you have probably noticed, the volunteer section indicates that updates will be sent to those who sign up. That should help establish some ongoing lines of communication, and get additional people involved. The wikiproject page overhaul should be done in a few days, hopefully less. By the way, thank you for volunteering, and thanks for the template idea, I've made a new one ({{pme}}).    — The Transhumanist   23:06, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
P.S.: Please ping me in your reply. Thank you.

Saeed II of Dubai 's brothers[edit]

Do you still think that the brothers of Saeed bin Maktoum bin Hasher Al MaktoumSheikh Juma bin Maktoum Al Maktoum and Sheikh Hasher bin Maktoum Al Maktoum—should be given their own articles? Векочел (talk) 04:12, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

@Векочел: I am not sure at this moment. What do you think? We need to keep in mind that there could be Arabic sources about them if not in English. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 14:45, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Perhaps we can add their articles. There should be more information about Sheikh Juma than about Sheikh Hasher because Sheikh Juma is the paternal grandfather of Hind bint Maktoum bin Juma Al Maktoum. --Векочел (talk) 14:52, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
@Векочел: Start a draft on Sheikh Juma then in the draftspace or your userspace. I will try and help you with that. If that goes well then we'll try and see what we can find on Sheikh Juma.
@Emir of Wikipedia: Here is the link: User:Векочел/Sheikh Juma bin Maktoum Al Maktoum — Preceding unsigned comment added by Векочел (talkcontribs)
Here is another draft of mine that you can edit if you would like: User:Векочел/Hashemites --Векочел (talk) 01:46, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
@Векочел: I am grateful for you informing me of that page but you do know that Hashemites exists right? --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:21, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
Yes, it is an addition of more information to the Hashemites page. --Векочел (talk) 22:38, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

A little extra caution[edit]

Hi, Emir - I'm of the mind that it would be a wise investment for me to get a different perspective from an uninvolved editor (or two) about what/how much would be reasonable to add. I've queried an editor whose views doesn't always align with mine, but whose judgement I trust, especially considering the added material is likely to be challenged. Does that make sense? Atsme📞📧 17:23, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

@Atsme: That makes complete sense to me and I think it is a good idea to do. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 18:52, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Allison Stokke[edit]

The article Allison Stokke you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold Symbol wait.svg. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Allison Stokke for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 18:01, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Just an FYI....[edit]

Remember the discussion at MastCell's - parts of it were edited and posted on the TP of NeilN and BullRangifer in a POV way that is typical of the author... Atsme📞📧 05:22, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Allison Stokke[edit]

The article Allison Stokke you nominated as a good article has failed Symbol oppose vote.svg; see Talk:Allison Stokke for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MWright96 -- MWright96 (talk) 16:41, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Current Talk page discussion about your good edit at Avengers film[edit]

There is currently Talk page discussion about your good edit at the Avengers film here: [1]. Another editor User:Shayaan is supporting your position and you might take a glace at it. Good edit. FutureForecasts (talk) 15:25, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

RSN "Sentence in Jordan Peterson and its sourcing"[edit]

I don't understand capping the sourcing at RSN as you did here. the whole point is for people to look at the refs and the content... How is hiding them "better"? (real question, not rhetorical..)

Would also appreciate input on the question asked there. :) Jytdog (talk) 00:25, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

@Jytdog: Apologies. That was listing all the references on the pages which is confusing but not your fault I edited from the section and not the whole page so when I previewed I thought it just showed the sources for your section. Adding input now. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 12:21, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 14:28, 9 June 2018 (UTC)


The page has been ready to move for quite some time now. This is not a single purpose editor asking for a move. There are multiple respected, long time users wanting it to be moved. I wanted to go through WP:RM but the template explicitly says it is not to be used for moves from draft space to article space. So please move the page or advise me on what you think is the better solution. I am referring to move Draft: List_of_box_office_records_set_by_Avengers:_Infinity_War to the article space. Tutelary (talk) 20:03, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

@Tutelary:  Done --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:09, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jared Kushner[edit]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Jared Kushner you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. Time2wait.svg This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of JohnWickTwo -- JohnWickTwo (talk) 20:20, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

This 1st GAN has been closed as failed. It should not be re-opened which is against Wikipedia policy. A second GAN may be opened by you or any other editor when the article is ready according to GAN policy. JohnWickTwo (talk) 19:00, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
I would like a second opinion please. Your review did not look at the GAN policy but instead whether it fit your desired sectioning. Let's hear what the second opinion says before passing or failing. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 19:04, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
It is against Wikipedia policy to do that for a review which has been closed. Please read the policy the policy statement for re-nomination of articles at WP:GAN. A closed GAN should not be re-opened once closed. JohnWickTwo (talk) 19:08, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
You are currently listing your nomination in two separate categories which is against Wikipedia policy. Please remove the nomination which you manually re-added to the GAN list which is against WP policy and appears to be edit warring. JohnWickTwo (talk) 19:24, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Where is this? It is only listed in one category. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 19:28, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Hat of Amy Coney Barrett RSN[edit]

Seriously, what is this?[2] All the users who have advocated for removal of content sourced to the NYT source have characterized the NYT article in question as unreliable (two users referred to it as a hit piece, and the third claimed that the article contained unsupported insinuation). I demonstrated this in the thread in question, yet you claim "Nobody is saying it is not RS from what I can see." Snooganssnoogans (talk) 15:10, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

From what I can see the users you are on about have not said that it is unreliable. If you are on about Lionelt they have literally wrote "This is about WP:DUE amongst other things. Not WP:RS". I did not see anyone say it was unreliable if someone has said that they feel free to take off the hat and present that there, but otherwise you should get a Wikipedia:Third opinion if the talkpage of the article is not helpful. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 16:03, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
When someone says that a source is a hit piece and that it contains unsupported insinuation and that it should be removed for those reasons, are they not saying that the source is unreliable? The claim that the NYT is not a RS is of course so absurd that nobody would cop to it, but the reasoning for excluding the source is solely based on arguments that the content in the source is unreliable (e.g. it's a "hit piece" and contains "unsupported insinuation"). Snooganssnoogans (talk) 16:26, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
@Snooganssnoogans: Has the issue been resolved now? Have they decided to include the content from NYT? Feel free to remind them about Wikipedia:RSOPINION if they have forgotten that. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:29, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
No, the content has not been included in the article, and I'm pretty sure that it never will unless I take it to a RfC or get broader Wiki input. My experience with Lionelt is that the user will edit-war to keep the content out (in particular, if another editor partakes), staunchly oppose any inclusion no matter how reliably sourced (i.e. more RS won't matter) and threaten sanctions if someone takes action without his explicit approval. The dispute still revolves around the accuracy of the NY Times (i.e. it's a dispute over whether the NY Times articles is reliable), regardless of what the users on that talk page say when they face scrutiny by the broader Wikipedia community. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 17:47, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
@Snooganssnoogans: You don't have to go as extreme as an RfC for broader input, other options like WP:3O and WP:DRN are available. If that user is problematic then you should report them to an admin, they should definitely not be threatening sanctions at anyone which sounds like a WP:OWNER. If the dispute is about if the NY Times article is an RS then tell them nobody on the noticeboard said it was unreliable, if they are bringing forward the argument that it is undue then you will have to prove it is due. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:11, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

ANI discussion by User:Govvy[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Govvy (talk) 21:46, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Wei Dai Copyright attribution simplification? Suggestion[edit]

Hello Emir of Wikipedia, I saw that you added this Copyright notice to the Wei Dai article. This expanded upon the notice added by User:Diannaa. I wonder if all this can be simplified as I am the author of the referenced article. The original article was actually written for Wikipedia, but was later deleted per WP:N. I then decided to publish on the Bitcoin Wiki. Eventually it made its way back to Wikipedia (thanks to User:Xinbenlv) and recently passed another WP:N challenge. Seems it is finally here to stay.

Does it still make sense to reference the external ( "source"?

If so, we can probably remove Taras as an author of the copy/pasted text because his stub article was 100% removed when I published the actual content which was later used here on Wikipedia (see diff).


@Diannaa:, @Xinbenlv: Anything to add here?

Cheers, JonathanCross (talk) 17:52, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps we could just add a note for further attribution? Like this: "This content was previously published on Wikipedia as User:JonathanCross/Wei Dai. Please see the history of that page for attribution."Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:05, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Diannaa, Sure, that would be fine. Would you care to make the edit (and remove any info no needed)? -- JonathanCross (talk) 18:43, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 Done. I have left the other attribution data in place so patrollers will be made aware that all these webpages have been compatibly licensed. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:48, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! -- JonathanCross (talk) 19:26, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Awesome~ Xinbenlv (talk) 19:41, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

@Diannaa, Xinbenlv, and JonathanCross: Is this issue all resolved then? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:24, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

I noticed that User:JonathanCross/Wei Dai is deleted so we can't see the history for attribution, should we perhaps restore and change it to a redirect? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 18:05, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
@JonathanCross: I have restored the userspace draft and redirected to Wei Dai to provide a better attribution chain. Not sure this is legally required under the terms of the license's legal code but better to be sure. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:35, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Restoring the draft is a great improvement -- the entire editing history is now available for anyone interested. Thanks! -- JonathanCross (talk) 22:02, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Explanation for Recent Contribution at Ivanka Trump[edit]

Hello Emir of Wikipedia!

Thank you for reaching out to me, it was very helpful and I am grateful. I am still very new here on Wikipedia and am constantly learning. What has me so interested in contributing is my love for grammatical editing.

The explanation for my contribution on Ivanka Trump's page was not its being a controversial topic, as it's labelled. As you saw, I edited her described Alma mater. As she completed her degree from the University of Pennsylvania and not Georgetown University, it additionally included from where she transferred. I edited this for consistency with the rest of Wikipedia's pages. People do not regularly include in their Alma mater their first school if it isn't where they completed their degree or switched elsewhere. If we are to begin including the schools from where people transfer, we would also have to add Fordham University in Ivanka Trump's father's page and Villanova University in Bradley Cooper's. There are so many different examples. Now, those are changes I would not be against contributing, but in removing the one from Ivanka Trump's I only made a step toward consistency.

Again, I am grateful for your help. I did not previously see the location to add explanations to contributions. This response to you can in a way explain my decision making. Although you saw my choice for editing Ivanka Trump's page for being a controversial topic, it was instead for grammatical consistency with other pages and the understandings of other users and readers. Please, reach out to me if you want to understand my point more. I would be glad to hear more and listen more to greater advice in my future editing.

Cheers, StPaddyC (talk) 19:56, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Salman of Saudi Arabia[edit]

@Emir of Wikipedia: Do you think the article on the the current king of Saudi Arabia should be nominated for good article status? Векочел (talk) 19:15, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

@Векочел: It is worth a try, looks like there a still a few small issues to fix though. I suggest you read Talk:Salman of Saudi Arabia/GA1 and Talk:Salman of Saudi Arabia/GA2 before you nominate it though. Sorry but if you nominate it soon I probably won't be able to help but I wish you the best. Good luck. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 19:20, 8 July 2018 (UTC)


Thanks for [3] it was a misclick, I was about to revert it. Seraphim System (talk) 19:57, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Sam Harris[edit]

Hi. I saw your edit to Sam Harris. A person's full name is probably the most central and basic part of a biography. Do you agree? Can you please explain why you removed it? --MZMcBride (talk) 23:05, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

As I said in the edit summary because of WP:BLPPRIMARY. If there is a secondary source stating the full name or if Harris himself has stated it then use that as a reference, but we can't use birth documents unless a secondary source has confirmed it is him. Also in the future I think a discussion like this should take place on the article talkpage so other editors can contribute to it, as this is not a discussion about my personal conduct but article content. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 23:08, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
This is most certainly a discussion of your personal conduct, since you made the edit I'm discussing. :-) But sure, I can leave a note on the article talk page. --MZMcBride (talk) 23:10, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

For what it's worth, sources such as <> use this name as well. Are you disputing the accuracy of this information? --MZMcBride (talk) 23:08, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

That source was not the one used in the article. I have not seen anything to such that source is incorrect so go ahead and cite that in the article please. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 23:10, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Cool, thank you for the quick replies! I've added the text back and started a discussion on the article talk page. --MZMcBride (talk) 23:15, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Southern Poverty Law Center[edit]

Some IP editor hid your 11 July 2018 reply to TFD at Talk:Southern Poverty Law Center:

This is not about if they are an RS, that discussion is currently taking place at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Southern Poverty Law Center, but rather whether they are "widely cited in academic and media coverage of such groups and related issues".

Dervorguilla unhid. Now Malik Shabazz is advising her:

Unless you want to start seeing aggressive archiving of the talk page, knock off your edit-warring.

--Dervorguilla (talk) 03:32, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

I do not know the IP, so I can't make any comments. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:32, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Zayed (birthdate)[edit]

Wotcha. Tiny, tiny point on Sheikh Zayed and that 1916 birthdate. Although the article linked does give 1916, the UAE is currently about halfway through celebrating 'The Year of Zayed' - 100 years since his birth. So that one online source is sort of arguing with an entire nation... ;) Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Yep that source does say 1916, so writing "His birth date is also reported to be in 1918" makes no sense when the article says 1918 already. I am not denying the celebrations but that source says " in 1916 (some put the date as 1918)", it not arguing but just presenting the differing views. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:33, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Fine by me! :) Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:06, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

women in STEM[edit]

Hello, I see you reverted my edit. Carlton and I are having no luck reaching an agreed conclusion on the talk page. Could you or an wiki admin join the discussion? --2001:8003:4023:D900:1840:A296:7972:846 (talk) 21:20, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Another user seems to have joined in. Good luck with the discussion. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:54, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination[edit]

I plan to nominate a DYK for Julia Domna, if my GA nomination is successful. "Julia Domna helped philosophy to flourish in Rome and was involved in many building projects". Seeing as you have done a DYK nomination before, you may be able to give me some information about the nomination process. Векочел (talk) 23:01, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

@Векочел: You might be better off asking someone listed at Wikipedia:Did_you_know#DYK_participants. I have only done one DYK I think. Good luck. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:20, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update #016, 15 Aug 2018[edit]

Future portal tool[edit]

Discussions are underway on the design of a portal tool (user script) that will hopefully have features for modifying portals at the click of a menu item, to make editing them easier. It might do things like change the color for you, add to a selection, add a new section, move a section, and so on.

If you'd like to be involved and suggest features for the tool, please join us at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals/Design#What would you want a portal tool to be able to do?.

Progress report: upgrade of portals[edit]

As new portal components are built by our Lua gurus, those components are being used to upgrade portals. Each component automates a section of a portal in a particular way.

The sections that are mostly upgraded so far are the Intro, and the Associated Wikimedia section.

The sections currently undergoing upgrade are: Selected image, Categories, and the Intro.

The Intro? Isn't that done already?

Yes, and no.

The upgrade of the excerpt in intros is mostly complete (there are about 70 non-standard portals that still need it).

Now we are doing another upgrade of intros in the form of adding a panoramic picture at the top of the intro, on portals for which such a picture is available on Commons:. Dozens of panoramas have been added so far, and they are really starting to affect the look of portals — the portals that have them look really good.

Regions are the most likely subjects to have panoramas, but a surprising number of other subjects have banner-shaped pictures too. Some examples of non-geographic portals that they have been added to are:

Speaking of pictures, several hundred Selected image sections have been upgraded to include image slideshows.

Progress report: design[edit]

The push for automation continues, with new components under continuous testing in the field. As problems are spotted, they are reported to our programmers, who have done a fantastic job of keeping up with bug reports and fixing the relevant Lua modules fast. I am highly impressed.

Construction time on new portals is now down to as little as a minute or less. Though not in general. If you are lucky enough to spot portals that fit the profile of the new tools (their strengths), then a portal can be complete almost as soon as it is created, with the added time it takes to find and add a panorama. Source page titles are not generally standardized, and so it source pages in many cases must be entered manually. Where source page titles follow a standard naming convention, portal creation for those subjects goes quickly.

So, we still have some hurdles, but the outlook on portals is very good. New features, and many improvements to features are on the horizon. I'll be sure to report them when they become available.

What will the portal of the future look like? That is up to you!

See you on the project's talk pages.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   21:03, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update #017, 22 Aug 2018[edit]

This issue is about portal creation...

Creating new portals[edit]

Myself and others have been testing and experimenting with the new components in upgrading existing portals and in building new portals. They have now been applied in hundreds of portals.

The templates are ready for general use for portal creation.

They are still a bit buggy, but the only way we are going to work the rest of the bugs out is by using them and reporting the bugs as we come across them.

I look forward to seeing what new portals you create!

Be sure to report bugs at WT:WPPORTD.

The main portal creation template is {{box portal skeleton}}.

Portal creation tips[edit]

After starting a portal using {{box portal skeleton}}...

  1. Placing a panorama (banner picture) at the top of the intro section is a nice touch, and really makes a portal look good. {{box portal skeleton}} doesn't automatically insert panoramas. So, you will need to do that by hand. They can be found at Commons:. For some examples, check out Portal:Sharks, Portal:Cheese, and Portal:Florence
  2. The search term provided in the Did you know? and In the news sections is very basic and rarely matches anything. It is best to replace that term with multiple search arguments, if possible (separate each argument with a pipe character). For example, in Portal:Capital punishment, see Searches in templates use Lua search notation.
  3. Check the In the news and Did you know? sections for mismatches. That is, sometimes entries come up that shouldn't be displayed. If there are any, refine the search strings further, so they don't return such results.
  4. Finish each portal you've created before creating a new one. We don't want unfinished portals sitting around.

Need a laugh?[edit]

Check out the Did you know? section on Portal:Determinism.    — The Transhumanist   02:21, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Dear AWB'er[edit]

I noticed over at the Portals WikiProject that you have or use AWB (or JWB).

There are some tasks that have turned up that are perfect for AWB.

We have many new portals, and they need:

  1. To have a {{Portal}} template placed in the See also section on the corresponding root article, outline article, and index article.
  2. A {{Portal}} template placed on the corresponding category page.
  3. A link placed at the end (in the "bottom" section) on the corresponding navigation template. For an example, see Template:Birds.

The new portals can be found on Category:Single-page portals along with some revamped ones. You'll need to use the skip feature of AWB.

If you have any questions, please {{ping}} me, and ask them below.    — The Transhumanist   01:59, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update #018, 04 Sept 2018[edit]

Bug hunt![edit]

As you know, portals are now supported by a number of new templates, which are in turn supported by some new Lua modules.

Those templates and modules are being put to the test, in the new portals that have been created since this WikiProject rebooted, plus a number of existing portals that have been revamped.

The new portals, and revamped ones, can be found at Category:Single-page portals.

Please browse the new portals at your leisure, and report any and all problems that you spot. Post bug and other portal problem reports at WT:WPPORTD. Please report bugs, quirks, awkward aspects, or anything weird or off that you notice. Compliments and suggestions are also welcome. :)

When you report a bug, please indicate the portal's name, the section that the problem appeared in, and the name of the article appearing (first) in the section with the problem. Most problems will likely be encountered in the Selected general articles" section, due to quirks in a displayed article's wikicode that the lua modules don't handle yet. Your help in spotting those is of utmost value. Thank you.

Don't delete portal subpages just yet[edit]

For portals that have been converted to the single-page design, we are not deleting their subpages at this time, because we are working on ways to harvest the data from those pages. For example, the Selected picture subpages include filenames and captions that would be valuable for the image slideshows. Please don't delete portal subpages, for now. They'll be slated for d-batch speedy deletion after harvesting. Thank you.

Development notes[edit]

We are currently testing a feature added to {{Transclude files as random slideshow}} that allows it to accept both sourcepages and filenames. Courtesy of Evad37. This will pave the way for harvesting files and their captions from portal subpages, for use in image slideshows.

We need your help[edit]

The bulk of the work is being done by a handful of editors. But we can't do it all. We need help with spotting bugs, refining the search parameters in new/revamped portals (in the "Did you know..." and "In the news" sections), adding images to slideshows for a broader selection (they default to showing the images on the root article page but are capable of showing so much more), adding panoramic pictures at the top of the intro section of region portals (cities, counties, states, provinces, countries, continents, and other regions), to name but a few task types.

It is rewarding to be a part of the growing portal phenomenon. And you get to see its expansion and refinement up close.

Feel free to join in on the fun. ;)

Thank you,    — The Transhumanist   06:50, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Wotcha. Ping me an email? Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 13:57, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

AWB task request: please help with the backlog[edit]


If you have AWB laying around, please dust it off and crank it up! ;)

We have a growing backlog!

There are now 3,681 portals. Of those, 2,368 are of the new design.

Many of the new portals are orphaned or near orphaned, and need links pointing to them:

  1. A portal link at the bottom of corresponding navigation footer template. E.g., Template:Machines for Portal:Machines. See examples of a portals link at the bottom of Template:Robotics and Template:Forestry.
  2. A {{Portal}} box in the See also section of the corresponding root article for each portal. If there is no See also section, create one and place the portal template in that. (Rather than placing them in an external links section -- they're not external links).
  3. A {{Portal}} template placed at the top of the category page corresponding to each portal.

To make a list of corresponding templates, you can use AWB's make list feature to make a list of the pages in Category:Single-page portals. Then you copy that list to a sandbox, and replace \nPortal: with ]]\n* [[Template:, using WP:wikEd. That will give you a list of templates to work on. Then you set skip in AWB to skip the ones that already have the portal link.

To make a list of corresponding root articles, make a list of portal links, and then remove "Portal:" from the links.

To make a list of category links to process, make sure you use a leading colon (:) in the category links, like this: [[:Category:Blue Öyster Cult]].

All new and revamped portals can be found at Category:Single-page portals.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   20:44, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018[edit]

Hello Emir of Wikipedia, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.

Project news
As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.
Moving to Draft and Page Mover
  • Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
  • If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
  • Articles that have been created in contravention of our paid-editing-requirements or written from a blatant NPOV perspective, or by authors with a clear COI might also be draftified at discretion.
  • The best tool for draftification is User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js(info). Kindly adapt the text in the dialogue-pop-up as necessary (the default can also be changed like this). Note that if you do not have the Page Mover userright, the redirect from main will be automatically tagged as CSD R2, but in some cases it might be better to make this a redirect to a different page instead.
  • The Page Mover userright can be useful for New Page Reviewers; occasionally page swapping is needed during NPR activities, and it helps avoid excessive R2 nominations which must be processed by admins. Note that the Page Mover userright has higher requirements than the NPR userright, and is generally given to users active at Requested Moves. Only reviewers who are very experienced and are also very active reviewers are likely to be granted it solely for NPP activities.
List of other useful scripts for New Page Reviewing

  • Twinkle provides a lot of the same functionality as the page curation tools, and some reviewers prefer to use the Twinkle tools for some/all tasks. It can be activated simply in the gadgets section of 'preferences'. There are also a lot of options available at the Twinkle preferences panel after you install the gadget.
  • In terms of other gadgets for NPR, HotCat is worth turning on. It allows you to easily add, remove, and change categories on a page, with name suggestions.
  • MoreMenu also adds a bunch of very useful links for diagnosing and fixing page issues.
  • User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js(info): Installing scripts doesn't have to be complicated. Go to your common.js and copy importScript( 'User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js' ); into an empty line, now you can install all other scripts with the click of a button from the script page! (Note you need to be at the ".js" page for the script for the install button to appear, not the information page)
  • User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js(info): Creates a scrolling new pages list at the left side of the page. You can change the number of pages shown by adding the following to the next line on your common.js page (immediately after the line importing this script): npp_num_pages=20; (Recommended 20, but you can use any number from 1 to 50).
  • User:Primefac/revdel.js(info): Is requesting revdel complicated and time consuming? This script helps simplify the process. Just have the Copyvio source URL and go to the history page and collect your diff IDs and you can drop them into the script Popups and it will create a revdel request for you.
  • User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js(info): Creates a "Page Curation" link to Special:NewPagesFeed up near your sandbox link.
  • User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/deletionFinder.js: Creates links next to the title of each page which show up if it has been previously deleted or nominated for deletion.
  • User:Evad37/rater.js(info): A fantastic tool for adding WikiProject templates to article talk pages. If you add: rater_autostartNamespaces = 0; to the next line on your common.js, the prompt will pop up automatically if a page has no Wikiproject templates on the talk page (note: this can be a bit annoying if you review redirects or dab pages commonly).

Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:11, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update #019, 22 Sept 2018[edit]

Portals progress report[edit]

Don't blink. You might miss something.

As of a few days ago, portals had doubled in about a month and a half.

Also, there were 98 incompleted portals in Category:Portals under construction. Now there are just 43.

The WikiProject page has been thoroughly revised[edit]

The goals, plans, and task sections have all been updated.

Orphaned portals need a home...[edit]

Many new portals are still orphans, and need links pointing to them:

  1. A portal link at the bottom of corresponding navigation footer template. E.g., Template:Machines for Portal:Machines. See examples of a portals link at the bottom of Template:Robotics and Template:Forestry.
  2. A {{Portal}} box in the See also section of the corresponding root article for each portal. If there is no See also section, create one and place the portal template in that. (Rather than placing them in an external links section -- they're not external links).
  3. A {{Portal}} template placed at the top of the category page corresponding to each portal.

All new and revamped portals can be found at Category:Single-page portals.


This is the main list of portals.

Nearly 2,000 of the new portals need to be listed here.

They can be found at Portal talk:Contents/Portals#These are not listed yet. Instructions are included there.

Customized Portal Rating system is now in place[edit]

Portals now have a new rating system of their own designed specifically to support portal evaluation! We were trying to use the standard assessment system for articles, but that doesn't fit portals very well.

Many thanks to Evad37, Waggers, AfroThundr3007730, SMcCandlish, Tom, BrendonTheWizard, and Pbsouthwood for their work and input on this.

The new system can be found at the top of all portal talk pages, in the WikiProject portals box. Those with "???" ratings need to be assessed, which makes up most of the older portals.

Most of the new portals were started out with an initial "Low" level of importance when their talk pages were created. Those deserving higher importance should be promoted as you come across them.

Improving the new portals[edit]

The starting point for new portals included minimal parameters and content, in the form of default values in the template(s) used for their creation.

Embellishing embedded search strings[edit]

So, for the search strings in the "Did you know..." and "In the news" sections, this was the magic word {{PAGENAME}}, which represents the portal's name. Unfortunately, the resulting term is alway capitalized, which limits its effectiveness as a search string for anything but proper nouns. Results for those two sections can be improved, by replacing the "PAGENAME" magic word with multiple search strings, and search strings that begin with lower case letters. There is no inherent limit as to how many search parameters may be included. Lua search notation is used. The more general the subject, the more subtopic search terms you may want to include. For example, on Portal:Avengers (comics), {{PAGENAME}} turned up nothing. But, when more parameters were added, as in the wikicode below...

{{Transclude selected recent additions | {{PAGENAME}} | Iron Man | Spiderman | Antman | Hawkeye | The Hulk | Incredible Hulk | David Banner | Captain America | Scarlet Witch | Black Widow | Tony Stark | Nick Fury | Age of Ultron | Infinity War | months=36 | header={{Box-header colour|Did you know... }}|max=6}}

... that returned several results in the portal's DYK section.

Be sure you make the improvements to both the DYK section and the "In the news" section, as they both require the search strings.

Expanding the slideshow contents[edit]

The default starting selection for the image slideshow in most new portals is whatever images happen to be in the corresponding root article (via the PAGENAME magic word). You can improve image slideshows by adding more sourcepages and filenames as parameters in the "Selected images" section of portals.

See Template:Transclude files as random slideshow/doc for instructions.

More exciting things are to come...[edit]

Portals used to take about 6 hours or more to create. Now, for subjects that have particular navigation support, we've got that down to about one minute each, with even more content displayed than ever. True, that means the new portals pick you, rather than the other way around. Creating a specific portal that doesn't happen to have the requisite navigation support is still pretty time consuming. But, we are working on extending our reach beyond the low-hanging fruit.

And efforts are ongoing to keep shaving time off of the creation process. Eventually, we may get it down to seconds each.

In addition to improving automation, we're always looking for new features and improvements that we can add to portals, and there is plenty of potential to expand on the standard design so that new portals are even better right out of the starting gate. Additional designs are also possible.

On the horizon, there are many more portals waiting to be created. And we can expect to see at least a few more section types emerge. I never expected slideshows, for example, especially not for excerpts. Who knows where innovation will take us next?

Keep up the great work everyone.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   07:06, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Hatnote RfC[edit]

Per your edit here, this RfC may be of interest to you. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 00:37, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update #020, 12 Oct 2018[edit]

Whew, a lot has been happening.

A bit of defending of the portals has been needed. But, most activity recently has been directed upon maintenance and development of existing portals.

The majority of portals now use the new design, about 2400 of them, leaving around 1200 portals that still employ the old style.

Newest portals[edit]

Please inspect these portals, and report problems or suggest improvements at WT:WPPORTD. Thank you.


Since the last issue of this newsletter, Nineteen portals were nominated for deletion. All posted by the same person.

Two portals were deleted.

One resolved as "no consensus".

Sixteen resolved as "keep".

Links to the archived discussions are provided below:

  1. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Air France
  2. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Alexander Korda
  3. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:August Derleth
  4. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Average White Band
  5. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Bee-eaters
  6. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Ben E. King
  7. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Benny Goodman
  8. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Bill Bryson
  9. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Billy Idol
  10. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Billy Ocean
  11. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Bob Hope
  12. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Bobbie Rosenfeld Award
  13. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Body piercing
  14. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Canton, Michigan
  15. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Compostela Group of Universities
  16. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Diplo
  17. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Diversity of fish
  18. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Pebble Beach
  19. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Peter, Paul and Mary

Many thanks to those who participated in the discussions.

To watch for future MfD's, keep in mind that the Portals WikiProject is supported by automatic alerts. You can see them at: Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals#Article alerts: portals for deletion at MfD

Creation criteria[edit]

There was also some discussion of creation criteria for portals. The result was that one of the participants in the discussion reverted the portal guidelines to the old version, which has the minimum number of articles for a portal included in there: "about 20 articles", a guideline that was in place since 2009.

Many of the portals that existed prior to April 2018 do not have that many (being limited to however many subpages the portal creator created), and therefore, these portals need to be upgraded to the new design (which automatically provides many articles for display). Using the new design, exceeding 20 articles for display is very easy.

Linking to the new portals[edit]

Efforts have been underway to place links to new portals (all 2200 of them created since April).

  1. Link (portal button) from corresponding category pages.  Done
  2. Link from See also section on corresponding root articles. check Partially implemented
  3. Link from bottom of corresponding templates. check Partially implemented
  4. Link for each portal on Portal:Contents/Portals. check Partially implemented

Your help is needed. It is easy to access the page mentioned in #1, #2, & #3 from the portals themselves.

AWBers could do these tasks even faster (that's how the category pages were done), except #4...

Item #4 above pretty much has to be done by hand. (If you can find a way to speed that up, I would be very impressed). The links needing placement can be found at Portal talk:Contents/Portals#These are not listed yet. Instructions are included there.

The conversion effort: news sections[edit]

There are still around 1200 old-style portals that have only undergone partial conversion to the new design concepts, still relying on subpages with copied/pasted excerpts that have been going stale for years, out of date (manually posted) news entries, etc.

The section currently being tackled on these is news. You can help by deleting any news section on the old-style portals that has news entries that are years old (that is the dead giveaway to a manual news section). Be sure not to delete the news sections of portals that have up-to-date news, or active maintainers. For maintainers, look at the portal's categories, and/or check the participants list at WP:WPPORT.

Eventually, conditional news sections (that appear only when news items are available for display) will be added using AWB to all portals without a news section.

News items (and even the news sections themselves) are automatically generated for portals that were created using the Basic portal start page. On those portals, there is a hidden comment at the top of the page (that you can see in the edit window), that says this:

<!-- This portal was created using subst:Basic portal start page -->

Design development[edit]

Presently, we are in the process of implementing the new design features, creating new portals with them, and installing them in existing portals.

But, what about development of new new design features?

We have a wish department.

Post your wishes at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals/Design#Discussions about possible cool new features, and they might come true. Many have already, and for many of those, this is where they were posted.

Cascade effect[edit]

A resource that has been elusive so far will be obtained eventually: categories. That is, the ability to pull category member links to populate a page.

Rather than populate portals directly with such links, it may be more beneficial to the encyclopedia to utilize them in navigation footers, because portals already have the ability to generate themselves based on those.

So, this would create a cascade effect: auto-gathering entries from categories, would enable the construction of new navigation footers, that would in turn support the development of new portals.

The cascade effect would also be felt by existing portals, as existing navigation footers could be expanded using the category harvesting methods, which would in turn expand the coverage of portals that access those navigation footers.

You can help by providing leads about any potential category harvesting methods. Please report anything you know about harvesting categories at WT:WPPORTD. Thank you.

Looking into the future: the quantum portal?[edit]

One idea that has been floating around is the concept of a pageless portal. That is, a portal that isn't stored anywhere, instead being generated when you click on a menu item or button.

Many of the new portals were generated by a single click, and then saved via a second click.

Therefore, it seems likely that the portals of the future will employ the one-click concept.

Because of the need for customization by users, this concept would need to be augmented with a way to integrate user contributions. This could be done in at least two ways: posting an existing portal, autogenerating one from scratch if such does not yet exist, or have a special data page for user contributions that is folded into the auto-generated portal.

How soon? That is up to you. All that is needed are persons to implement it.

Until next time...[edit]

Keep up the good work on portals. They are improving daily. Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   04:18, 12 October 2018 (UTC)