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'''''Frenemies''''' is a collaborative [[podcast]] between [[Ethan Klein]] and [[Trisha Paytas]], two [[YouTube]] personalities with a history of feuds between one another. |
'''''Frenemies''''' is a collaborative [[podcast]] between [[Ethan Klein]] and [[Trisha Paytas]], two [[YouTube]] personalities with a history of feuds between one another.<ref>{{cite news |title=YouTube star Trisha Paytas comes out as non-binary |url=https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/culture/youtube-star-trisha-paytas-comes-out-as-non-binary/ |work=[[Gay Times|GAY TIMES]] |date=2021-04-14}}</ref> The podcast began in September 2020, and includes discussions on current social media topics. The podcast also features occasional challenges such as the duo performing the Presidential Fitness Test, trivia games, and a cake baking competition. |
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== Background == |
== Background == |
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The podcast name comes from the fact that Paytas and Klein have an antagonistic relationship, with a number of feuds between the pair.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Dodgson|first1=Lindsay|date=December 11, 2020|title=A timeline of Trisha Paytas' turbulent history with H3H3's Ethan Klein, from body-shaming, to the failed attempt of 'The Bachelorette', to dating his brother-in-law|work=Insider|url=https://www.insider.com/trisha-paytas-h3h3-ethan-klein-drama-timeline-what-happened-2020-4|access-date=February 16, 2021}}</ref> The podcast is primarily distributed on the YouTube channel ''H3 Podcast'' and is produced by Klein, his wife Hila, and the H3 Crew, consisting of A.B. Ayad, Dan Swerdlove, Ian Slater, and sound editor Zach Louis. |
The podcast name comes from the fact that Paytas and Klein have an antagonistic relationship, with a number of feuds between the pair.<ref>{{cite news|last1=Dodgson|first1=Lindsay|date=December 11, 2020|title=A timeline of Trisha Paytas' turbulent history with H3H3's Ethan Klein, from body-shaming, to the failed attempt of 'The Bachelorette', to dating his brother-in-law|work=[[Insider.com|Insider]]|url=https://www.insider.com/trisha-paytas-h3h3-ethan-klein-drama-timeline-what-happened-2020-4|access-date=February 16, 2021}}</ref> The podcast is primarily distributed on the YouTube channel ''H3 Podcast'' and is produced by Klein, his wife Hila, and the H3 Crew, consisting of A.B. Ayad, Dan Swerdlove, Ian Slater, and sound editor Zach Louis. |
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In March of 2021, the podcast featured a cook-off in Klein's home, guest judged by Canadian musician [[Mac DeMarco]]. |
In March of 2021, the podcast featured a cook-off in Klein's home, guest judged by Canadian musician [[Mac DeMarco]]. |
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==Topics discussed== |
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==Controversy== |
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The podcast has discussed Paytas' past friendship with former YouTube stars [[Shane Dawson]] and [[Jeffree Star]],<ref>{{cite news |last1=Sherman |first1=Maria |title=The End of YouTube's Longest Friendship: Shane Dawson vs. Trisha Paytas (Also, Jeffree Star Is Involved) |url=https://jezebel.com/the-end-of-youtubes-longest-friendship-shane-dawson-vs-1846172826 |work=[[Jezebel (website)|Jezebel]] |date=February 1, 2021 |language=en-us}}</ref> as well as Paytas' relationship with Klein's brother-in-law, [[Moses Hacmon]].<ref name="Fox">{{cite news |last1=Fox |first1=Mira |title=If you’re looking for a Passover anthem, this is…not it |url=https://forward.com/culture/466440/if-youre-looking-for-a-passover-anthem-this-isnot-it/ |work=[[The Forward]] |date=March 23, 2021}}</ref> |
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In February 2021, Paytas discussed sexual assault allegations against [[David Dobrik]] and members of the [[Vlog Squad]] on the podcast, and claimed he included her in sexual [[vlogs]] without her consent.<ref>{{cite news |last1=O'Connor |first1=Florence |last2=Haylock |first2=Zeo |title=A Timeline of the David Dobrik Allegations and Controversies |url=https://www.vulture.com/2021/04/david-dobrik-allegations-controversies-timeline.html |work=[[New York (magazine)|Vulture]] |date=2021-04-22}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |last1=Sinha |first1=Charu |title=David Dobrik Says He ‘Doesn’t Stand for Any Misconduct’ in New Statement |url=https://www.vulture.com/2021/03/david-dobrik-says-he-doesnt-stand-for-any-misconduct.html |work=[[New York (magazine)|Vulture]] |date=2021-03-17}}</ref> ''Frenemies'' was also the first platform to come out against Dobrik and the Vlog Squad.<ref>{{cite web |last1=Wright |first1=Constance |title=Cancelling David Dobrik |url=https://thescarlet.org/17361/category_news/cancelling-david-dobrik/ |website=The Scarlet |date=March 26, 2021}}</ref> |
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In May 2021, ''[[Paper (magazine)|Paper]]'' said that Paytas revealed they were almost on season 2 of ''[[Euphoria (American TV series)|Euphoria]]'' as "[[Plus-size model|plus-sized]] social media influencer" guest star.<ref>{{cite news |title=Trisha Paytas Was Almost on 'Euphoria' |url=https://www.papermag.com/trisha-paytas-euphoria-2652891881.html |work=[[Paper (magazine)|PAPER]] |date=2021-05-06}}</ref> |
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===Controversies=== |
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⚫ | The show has been controversial for its depiction of mental illness. While ''Frenemies'' has received praise for its openness regarding the topic, which advocates suggest may help break down the [[Social stigma|stigma]] surrounding mental illness, others have argued that the podcast is exploitative. Some have accused the podcast of purposefully provoking Paytas into a [[mental breakdown]] for views and content, a claim that the podcast's creators deny.<ref name="Dodgson.8.Jan">{{cite news |last1=Dodgson |first1=Lindsay |title=A podcast hosted by 2 of YouTube's most controversial personalities is creating new conversations about mental health |url=https://www.insider.com/frenemies-podcast-h3h3-trisha-paytas-mental-health-ethan-klein-2021-1 |access-date=February 16, 2021 |work=[[Insider.com|Insider]] |date=January 8, 2021}}</ref> |
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Todd Grande, a professionally-licensed mental health counselor and YouTuber, has argued that the series is [[voyeuristic]]. Donna Yatz of Psych IRL (a YouTube channel which discusses [[mental health]] and [[psychology]]) said that while she views the podcast as exploitative, "Trisha has repeatedly said she wants to do the show. Why shouldn't she able to make this decision herself?" The physician and media personality [[Drew Pinsky]]—commonly known as Dr. Drew—has appeared as a guest on the podcast, asking Paytas and Klein questions about their personal relationships and what led to Paytas' breakdowns on the show.<ref name="Dodgson.8.Jan"/> |
Todd Grande, a professionally-licensed mental health counselor and YouTuber, has argued that the series is [[voyeuristic]]. Donna Yatz of Psych IRL (a YouTube channel which discusses [[mental health]] and [[psychology]]) said that while she views the podcast as exploitative, "Trisha has repeatedly said she wants to do the show. Why shouldn't she able to make this decision herself?" The physician and media personality [[Drew Pinsky]]—commonly known as Dr. Drew—has appeared as a guest on the podcast, asking Paytas and Klein questions about their personal relationships and what led to Paytas' breakdowns on the show.<ref name="Dodgson.8.Jan"/> |
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Paytas' husband Moses Hacmon and co-host Ethan Klein are both Jewish; however, comments on [[Judaism]] and [[the Holocaust]] made by Paytas on the show have been criticised as ignorant and offensive.<ref name="Fox"/> |
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Frenemies | |
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Presentation | |
Hosted by | Ethan Klein & Trisha Paytas |
Genre | Talk, comedy, entertainment |
Format | Audio, video |
Created by | H3h3 Productions |
Language | English |
Length | 1–2+ hours |
Production | |
Video format | |
Audio format | MP3 |
No. of seasons | 1 |
No. of episodes | 37 (+2 vlogs) |
Publication | |
Original release | September 15, 2020 |
Provider | Self-produced |
Related | |
Related shows |
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Frenemies is a collaborative podcast between Ethan Klein and Trisha Paytas, two YouTube personalities with a history of feuds between one another.[1] The podcast began in September 2020, and includes discussions on current social media topics. The podcast also features occasional challenges such as the duo performing the Presidential Fitness Test, trivia games, and a cake baking competition.
Background
The podcast name comes from the fact that Paytas and Klein have an antagonistic relationship, with a number of feuds between the pair.[2] The podcast is primarily distributed on the YouTube channel H3 Podcast and is produced by Klein, his wife Hila, and the H3 Crew, consisting of A.B. Ayad, Dan Swerdlove, Ian Slater, and sound editor Zach Louis.
In March of 2021, the podcast featured a cook-off in Klein's home, guest judged by Canadian musician Mac DeMarco.
Topics discussed
The podcast has discussed Paytas' past friendship with former YouTube stars Shane Dawson and Jeffree Star,[3] as well as Paytas' relationship with Klein's brother-in-law, Moses Hacmon.[4]
In February 2021, Paytas discussed sexual assault allegations against David Dobrik and members of the Vlog Squad on the podcast, and claimed he included her in sexual vlogs without her consent.[5][6] Frenemies was also the first platform to come out against Dobrik and the Vlog Squad.[7]
In May 2021, Paper said that Paytas revealed they were almost on season 2 of Euphoria as "plus-sized social media influencer" guest star.[8]
Controversies
The show has been controversial for its depiction of mental illness. While Frenemies has received praise for its openness regarding the topic, which advocates suggest may help break down the stigma surrounding mental illness, others have argued that the podcast is exploitative. Some have accused the podcast of purposefully provoking Paytas into a mental breakdown for views and content, a claim that the podcast's creators deny.[9]
Todd Grande, a professionally-licensed mental health counselor and YouTuber, has argued that the series is voyeuristic. Donna Yatz of Psych IRL (a YouTube channel which discusses mental health and psychology) said that while she views the podcast as exploitative, "Trisha has repeatedly said she wants to do the show. Why shouldn't she able to make this decision herself?" The physician and media personality Drew Pinsky—commonly known as Dr. Drew—has appeared as a guest on the podcast, asking Paytas and Klein questions about their personal relationships and what led to Paytas' breakdowns on the show.[9]
Paytas' husband Moses Hacmon and co-host Ethan Klein are both Jewish; however, comments on Judaism and the Holocaust made by Paytas on the show have been criticised as ignorant and offensive.[4]
Episodes
Episode | Title | Release Date |
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1 | Trisha's New Boyfriend Is Hila's Brother | September 15th, 2020 |
2 | Trisha's Obsession With Jewish People | September 22nd, 2020 |
3 | Possibly Our Last Episode | September 29th, 2020 |
4 | Is Trisha Smarter Than A 5th Grader | October 6th, 2020 |
5 | Trisha's And Ethan Have A Huge Fight & She Storms Out | October 15th, 2020 |
6 | Trisha And Ethan Reconcile...Kind Of | October 22nd, 2020 |
7 | Couples Therapy With Dr. Drew | October 27th, 2020 |
8 | Trisha And Ethan Fight About The Election | November 3rd, 2020 |
9 | Cheese Mukbang Disaster | November 17th, 2020 |
10 | Trisha vs Charli & Dixie D'Amelio (Dramageddon 2.0) | November 24th, 2020 |
11 | Trisha And Ethan Do Goat Yoga & Carpool Karaoke | December 1st, 2020 |
12 | Trisha Was Kidnapped At Gunpoint | December 8th, 2020 |
13 | Trisha Quits The Podcast & Storms Out | December 10th, 2020 |
14 | The Fate Of Frenemies With Dr. Drew | December 16th, 2020 |
15 | We Made The Only Honest Award Show - Introducing The Steamies | January 5th, 2021 |
16 | Frenemies Is Under Attack | January 12th, 2021 |
17 | Trisha Was Bullied And Its Not OK | January 19th, 2021 |
18 | Pop Culture Trivia Was & Friendship With Shane Is Over | January 26th, 2020 |
19 | The David Dobrik & Jason Nash Episode | February 2nd, 2020 |
20 | Newlywed Game (Trisha & Moses vs Ethan & Hila) | February 9th, 2021 |
21 | Erased David Dobrik Footage Proves Trisha Was Right All Along | February 16th, 2021 |
22 | Ethan And Trisha Do An Athletics Competition | February 23rd, 2021 |
23 | David Dobrik & James Charles Drama Apocalypse | March 2nd, 2021 |
24 | Jewish Trivia Contest, David Dobrik & Scotty Sire | March 9th, 2021 |
25 | David Dobrik's Lawyers Go After Trisha & Cooking Competition | March 16th, 2021 |
26 | Responding To Jeff Wittek & New David Dobrik Footage | March 21st, 2021 |
27 | Jeff Wittek Interview Fall Out | March 23rd, 2021 |
28 | Responding To David Dobrik's Apology | |
29 | Trisha's Epic Passover Dinner At Ethans | March 30th, 2021 |
30 | Trisha And Ethan Do Oddly Satisfying Slime | April 6th, 2021 |
31 | Khloe Kardashion Photo Drama & Pizza Eating Contest | April 13th, 2021 |
32 | James Charles Entire Channel Demonetized By YouTube | April 20th, 2021 |
33 | Jeff Wittek, David Dobrik & Triva | April 27th, 2021 |
34 | Trisha's Birthday Celebration | May 4th, 2021 |
35 | Ethan Embarrassed Himself Infront Of Trisha's Family | May 11th, 2021 |
36 | Trisha And Ethan Both Got Bullied & Are Fighting Back | May 18th, 2021 |
37 | Taking Trisha To Meme School | May 25th, 2021 |
Episode | Title | Release Date |
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Vlog 1 | Trisha And Ethan Go To Disneyland For Her Birthday | May 9th, 2021 |
Vlog 2 | Trisha & Ethan Hijack A Hollywood Tour Bus | May 30th, 2021 |
The Steamies
The Steamies | |
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Country | United States |
Presented by | Ethan Klein, Trisha Paytas |
First awarded | January 5, 2021; 5 months ago |
The Steamies was an award show in which Klein and Paytas awarded fellow internet personalities plastic trophies based on a viewer poll. The award show was the 15th episode of the Frenemies podcast and has been watched over 3.5 million times. The second Steamie Awards has been confirmed to happen in 2021
List of ceremonies
Year | Date | Viewers | |
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2020 | The 1st Annual Steamies | January 5, 2021 | 3.8m |
2021 | The 2nd Annual Steamies | TBA | TBA |
1st Annual Steamie Award Winners
Year | Award | Winner |
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2020 | Biggest COVIDiot | Jake Paul |
Biggest Clout Goblin | James Charles | |
Biggest Douchebag | Keemstar | |
Biggest Meangirl | Tati Westbrook | |
Worst Influencer Song | One Whole Day - Dixie D'Amelio | |
Most Brutal Cancellation | Shane Dawson | |
Worst Apology | Jeffree Star - "Doing What's Right" | |
Biggest Reverse Card | Myka Stauffer - Putting adopted son back up for adoption | |
Spiciest Drama | Jeffree Star Vs Tati Westbrook | |
Biggest Fake Friendship | James Charles and literally anyone else | |
Account Ban Of The Year | LeafyisHere - YouTube and Twitch | |
Most Dramatic | Trisha Paytas |
References
- ^ "YouTube star Trisha Paytas comes out as non-binary". GAY TIMES. April 14, 2021.
- ^ Dodgson, Lindsay (December 11, 2020). "A timeline of Trisha Paytas' turbulent history with H3H3's Ethan Klein, from body-shaming, to the failed attempt of 'The Bachelorette', to dating his brother-in-law". Insider. Retrieved February 16, 2021.
- ^ Sherman, Maria (February 1, 2021). "The End of YouTube's Longest Friendship: Shane Dawson vs. Trisha Paytas (Also, Jeffree Star Is Involved)". Jezebel.
- ^ a b Fox, Mira (March 23, 2021). "If you're looking for a Passover anthem, this is…not it". The Forward.
- ^ O'Connor, Florence; Haylock, Zeo (April 22, 2021). "A Timeline of the David Dobrik Allegations and Controversies". Vulture.
- ^ Sinha, Charu (March 17, 2021). "David Dobrik Says He 'Doesn't Stand for Any Misconduct' in New Statement". Vulture.
- ^ Wright, Constance (March 26, 2021). "Cancelling David Dobrik". The Scarlet.
- ^ "Trisha Paytas Was Almost on 'Euphoria'". PAPER. May 6, 2021.
- ^ a b Dodgson, Lindsay (January 8, 2021). "A podcast hosted by 2 of YouTube's most controversial personalities is creating new conversations about mental health". Insider. Retrieved February 16, 2021.