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Specialized archives: January, February, March, April, May, June, July \\ ACE calcs \\ Tracking Data

Other basin talkpages (2011): Atlantic - W. Pacific - Central and East Pacific - N. Indian - S. Hemisphere

July

10W.NOCK-TEN - Severe Tropical Storm (Juaning)

Best status from NRL: 35kts 996 MB

Best status from RSMC: 50kts 985 hPa

93W.INVEST first appeared 2011-07-22, 0000z @ 9.0ºN 133.0ºE

LOW from ABPW10 2011-07-22, 0600z @ 10.3ºN 128.5ºE

MODERATE from ABPW10 2011-07-23, 1930z @ 12.3ºN 129.7ºE

TCFA/HIGH from ABPW10 2011-07-24, 0600z @ 12.4ºN 128.9ºE

JTWC designates as 10W 2011-07-24, 2100z @ 12.9ºN 127.5ºE

Tropical Depression (30 kts) from RSMC 2011-07-25, 0000z @ 12.8ºN 128.1ºE

PAGASA designates as "Juaning" 2011-07-25, 0300z @ 13.2°N 127.8°E

Tropical Storm Nock-ten from RSMC 2011-07-26, 0000 @ 14.0ºN 126.1ºE

Severe Tropical Storm Nock-ten from RSMC 2011-07-27, 0000 @ 15.6ºN 122.3ºE

Severe Tropical Storm Nock-ten makes landfall over northern Philippines (Luzon region) c2011-07-27, 0300z

Tropical Storm Nock-ten from RSMC 2011-07-28, 0000 @ 18.1ºN 116.8ºE

JMA Tropical Cyclone Advisories

2011-07-25, 0000z // 0300z // 0600z // 0900z // 1200z // 1500z // 1800z // 2100z

2011-07-26, 0000z // 0300z // 0600z // 0900z // 1200z // 1500z // 1800z // 2100z

2011-07-27, 0000z // 0300z // 0600z // 0900z // 1200z // 1500z // 1800z // 2100z

2011-07-28, 0000z // 0300z // 0600z // 0900z // 1200z // 1500z

PAGASA Tropical Cyclone Bulletins

01 // 02 // 03 // 04 // 04B // 05 // 06 // 07 // 08 // 09 // 10

11 // 12 // 13 (Final)

JTWC Tropical Cyclone Warnings

01 // 02 // 03 // 04 // 05 // 06 // 07 // 08 // 09 // 10

11 // 12 // 13 // 14 // 15 // 16

11W.MUIFA - Tropical Storm (Kabayan)

Best status from NRL: 40kts 993 MB

Best status from RSMC: 35kts 996 hPa

94W.INVEST first appeared 2011-07-23, 0000z @ 4.9ºN 149.7ºE

LOW from ABPW10 2011-07-23, 1930z @ 4.9ºN 149.7ºE

MODERATE from ABPW10 2011-07-24, 0600z @ 4.7ºN 148.3ºE

TCFA/HIGH from WTPN21 2011-07-24, 2300z @ 4.4ºN 148.2ºE

JTWC designates as 11W 2011-07-25, 1500z @ 5.6ºN 147.2ºE

Tropical Depression (30 kts) from RSMC 2011-07-26, 0000z @ 8.3ºN 147.2ºE

Tropical Storm Muifa from RSMC 2011-07-28, 0600z @ 12.1ºN 135.2ºE

PAGASA designates as "Kabayan" 2011-07-28, 0900z @ 12.3°N 134.7°E

JMA Tropical Cyclone Advisories

2011-07-26, 0000z // 0300z // 0600z // 0900z // 1200z // 1500z // 1800z // 2100z

2011-07-27, 0000z // 0300z // 0600z // 0900z // 1200z // 1500z // 1800z // 2100z

2011-07-28, 0000z // 0300z // 0600z // 0900z // 1200z // 1500z

PAGASA Tropical Cyclone Bulletins

01 // 02

Special Weather Statement Micronesia

2011-07-25, 0000

Tiyan, Guam Tropical Cyclone Advisory

01 // 02 // 02A // 03 // 03A // 04 // 04A // 05 // 05A // 06 // 06A // 07 // 08 // 09 // 10

11 // 12 // 13

JTWC Tropical Cyclone Warnings

01 // 02 // 03 // 04 // 05 // 06 //07 // 08 // 09 // 10

11 // 12 // 13

96W.INVEST

Best status from NRL: 15kts 1010 MB

96W.INVEST first appeared 2011-07-28, 0000z @ 13.7ºN 144.3ºE

LOW from ABPW10 2011-07-28, 0600z @ 13.7ºN 143.4ºE

Locations of advisories

Tropical Weather Outlooks: JTWC:ABPW10

Tropical Cyclone Advisories:

JMA: JMA:1 // JMA:2 // JMA:3 // JMA:WWJP25

JTWC: JTWC 1 // JTWC 2 // JTWC 3 //

NWS Guam: NWS:1 // NWS:2 // NWS:3

Hong Kong: WTSS20 // WTPQ20 //

Korea: Korea //

ICAO: JMA:1 // JMA:2 // JMA:3

Prognostic Reasonings: TCFA 1 // TCFA 2 // Prognostic Reasoning // JMA Prognostic Reasoning

Archives: JTWC // JMA // HKO

Best Track: JTWC/NRL // JMA

JMA BT

1101.Aere - Released on June 10
1102.Songda - Released on June 24
1103.Sarika - Released on July 11
1104.Haima - Released on July 28
1105.Meari - Released on July 28
1106.Ma-on -
1107.Tokage -
1108.Nock-ten -

No Predictions yet?

As far as i know, this basin has the first tropical weather event in the northern hemisphere, most of the times. So by this time there should be a whole lot of predictions right?? --Anirudh Emani (talk) 11:29, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wish i knew of a few that published in January but usually there is only one (PAGASA) and so far all ive seen is that they reckon there will be more (intense) storms this year.Jason Rees (talk) 12:19, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-Protection?

Why? The season hasn't had its first storm yet, so to speak, and I don't believe any sort of vandalism would be going on here for that reason, so why is it locked? Rye998 (talk) 01:11, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

People have been adding in random false tropical depressions so another user took the decesion to request semi protection. It hasnt been locked for established editors, just newbies and ip address.Jason Rees (talk) 23:36, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, sorry. I hadn't noticed that, but unless these vandals can calm down a bit, then I'd just leave the article closed up from these vandals for the time being, I guess... Rye998 (talk) 21:07, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, one more thing — until our first storm does form, should we put the {{currentdate}} template in the storms section? Rye998 (talk) 22:31, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is not required, When we say "no storms have formed yet" We automatically understand that no storms have formed as of now. --Anirudh Emani (talk) 09:42, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Season starting late???

Hey, it is too late already for the season to start. So is this season gonna be less active than last year?? --Anirudh Emani (talk) 11:26, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

usually the first named cyclone is in April or May. - グリフオーザー (talk) 22:12, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, i dont know much, because i once saw tropical cyclones form in the basin right from jan(2009). --Anirudh Emani (talk) 05:22, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion is not improving or maintainig this article in any way. See WP:FORUM. If you have any speculations on the activity of this season, put them Here, not here. Rye998 (talk) 21:10, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wha...

What happened to the seasonal summary table? Rye998 (talk) 20:05, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Songda's wind-speed...

Uh, is 445 kmph entirely accurate? Even for ten minute winds, that's insane... Windrays (talk) 15:48, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah it was a bit of Vandalism.Jason Rees (talk) 22:48, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

trouble editing Songda (Chedeng)

Hello Everyone, for the past few days the infobox for Songda / Chedeng has been showing hugely exaggerated statistics -- category 5, winds of 275 MPH, etc. Clearly inaccurate. I have tried to fix the infobox but not managed to do it properly. There was a weird-looking warning -- IIRC, "do not plonk as STY as it is unofficial" -- which I suspect was some kind of vandalism, as when I deleted it the calculated values started looking normal again. Usually I edit Atlantic pages. Evidently the system here is slightly different (IE the infoboxes might calculate in a different way, I wouldn't know). Obviously I am out of my depth here but anyone who does know how these work, and can put up accurate info including the proper SSHS strength, would be doing a public service. Best wishes, Pufferfyshe (talk) 18:52, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually the note was not vandalism and was added by me for numerous reasons including to avoid vandalism. Also the only problem with the infobox has been people keep adding what they believe to be the correct windspeed to the infobox and not the proper windspeeds (10-min: 105 kts 1-min: 140 kts), we have tried to keep on top of it but we do have other things to do.Jason Rees (talk) 01:23, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Never seen vandalism so bad that one day I had to fix things on the article for ridiculous wind speed information. - グリフオーザー (talk) 07:23, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to both for the clarification. I apologize to Jason Rees for removing the tag. Pufferfyshe (talk) 17:51, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My guess is that there is a bot that overwrites hurricane info boxes. I will inquire on weather project page. Student7 (talk) 21:48, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

....And so Songda is Category 2, not Category 5. Correct? 99.95.11.224 (talk) 21:50, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Songda was a category 5 Super Typhoon at peak on the SSHS. There is no problem with infobox.Jason Rees (talk) 21:52, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

T7.0 even though if I am correct the JMA winds estimate was only 6.5. - グリフオーザー (talk) 07:42, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Miyagi info

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/video/2011-05/31/c_13903055.htm

here

69.148.182.87 (talk) 18:03, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sarika

Hi, I don't know much about this whole business - which is why I'm not being bold and leaving it for you (sorry) but this link [1] looks interest - gives prediction of Sarika's course and reports 5 killed. Based on 14 knots travelling 160 nautical miles that's about 11.5 hours from 15.00 gmt - so 2 hrs left until landfall near hongkong roughly ? EdwardLane (talk) 23:24, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Based on the HKO Radar and the last JMA warning, I think its already made landfall, but id wait for more confirmation.Jason Rees (talk) 23:35, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tropical Depression 31 May onwards

I am not sure if we got this right. It seems that we don't have any archived TWOs and the like. I think to remember there was one system west of Manila and antoher system near Taiwan. However, I might be wrong and the phantom in my mind is later Sarika. Any thoughts? --Matthiasb (talk) 12:16, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We do have the TWOs etc archived for the May 31 TD - whoever archived it quite rightly decided to chuck it in the June folder instead of the May one.Jason Rees (talk) 14:04, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New TD?

PAGASA reports that a depression by the name of "Falcon" has formed east of Visayas. Is it really true? 99.99.87.53 (talk) 04:56, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is true. The advisory will be in the talk section soon - グリフオーザー (talk) 07:44, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Season effects table

Should we use the season effects table currently used in 2011 AHS and PHS? Using that table is much easier to edit. Darren 23^Edits|Mail 04:51, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Songda Article

Is an article for Songda needed due to its super typhoon status? Rosalina2427 17:54, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't say it's needed, since it didn't make a catastrophic landfall, but if anyone wanted to make one, that'd be welcome. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:57, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tropical Depression???

I can't see any tropical depression near Hong Kong and the wind in Hong Kong is like static. Could you please check whether the tropical depression is true or not?

Wildoneshelper (talk) 06:11, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

JTWC depression names

When we name JTWC depressions, we use their real numbers. But they also put a name in parenthesis in their advisories. For example, for TD10W, they put: "1. TROPICAL DEPRESSION 10W (TEN)". They also put the name in parenthesis a JMA name is present. So here's the thing, should we start naming them like Tropical Depression Ten-W? Darren 23^Edits|Mail 04:28, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be just Tropical Depression Ten, sans W. I think it would be fine to keep it the way we have it since in the other places such as the prognostic reasoning, they use "TROPICAL DEPRESSION 10W." --Holderca1^talk 04:43, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The advisory isn't the only place it's mentioned. Ten is also used in their JMV data and graphic. And, in NRL, they refer to it as "10W.TEN", which is exactly the same as they do in ATL/E/CPAC. Darren 23^Edits|Mail 04:50, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dates active

For the dates active, are we using local time or UTC? The first advisory for 10W was issued on the 24th UTC but 25th local and it was changed in the article from the 24th to the 25th, so I just wanted to check. Thanks. --Holderca1^talk 05:46, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

we should be using UTC.Jason Rees (talk) 12:36, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Current storm status for every tropical cyclone?

It was first used for Typhoon Ma-on because it was powerful and made landfall in Japan. However, does every tropical cyclone including tropical depression need its current storm status? I do not think it is necessary.--Meow ✉ 14:54, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is the status quo in the Atlantic and Eastern Pacific. I fail to see how it is detrimental to the article. The information from JTWC and JMA are both easily accessible. --Holderca1^talk 23:50, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As an addendum, for the JMA tropical depressions that have no advisories, I would say no, since there are no advisories issued that provide the needed info. Personnally I am on the fence on whether to include these in the article at all. --Holderca1^talk 00:07, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The problem in the WPAC with the IHC or the ITC as its now known is no one updating it at all which is why in 2008 it was removed.Jason Rees (talk) 19:41, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That problem also exists for the small infobox that is being used as an alternate. In my opinion though, that one is worse to use if the article isn't being updated as it doesn't have an "as of" date and time listed on it, while the current infobox does. So I would say, if we aren't using the current one, we should wait to put up any infobox until the storm disipates, because regardless of what infobox we use, it will need constant updating while active. Perhaps we should recruit some of the folks on the Atlantic page that fight over being the one to update the storm status. --Holderca1^talk 22:52, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

From all RSMCs the JMA provides the most lousy service, and therfore results a lack of possibilities to improve the article until the typhoon session when the report is published. There's also some recentism when a system is affecting the Philippines, but nobody really cares when then storm left the islands. --Matthiasb (talk) 11:57, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Muifa

Can anybody find an image on Muifa's satellite image? Is using Digital-typhoon center satellite images is allowed?

Wildoneshelper (talk) 07:57, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Digital Typhoon is a nono, you can use NASA or there are a few links to others on my userpage.Jason Rees (talk) 20:44, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NASA will likely have one soon, especially when it strengthens a bit more. --Holderca1^talk 23:24, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nock-ten page construction underway

the sandbox for nockten is here. Kindly help! --Anirudh Emani (talk) 09:53, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]