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I have rarely read a Wikipedia entry that required more cleanup than this article about Beverly Hills. The introduction needs a complete overhaul -- the existing opening line referencing West Hollywood [?] and other communities and location information be moved to another section about bordering municipalities.
I have rarely read a Wikipedia entry that required more cleanup than this article about Beverly Hills. The introduction needs a complete overhaul -- the existing opening line referencing West Hollywood [?] and other communities and location information be moved to another section about bordering municipalities.


''This'' leading section should be a summary of what the city is, located in west Los Angeles, and then summarizing it's world-renowned status in movies, television and finance (or whatever). Again, this is an article about the city itself, with the surrounding communities information being in a different section after it's history and community information.
''This'' leading section should be a summary of what the city is, located in west Los Angeles, and then summarizing it's world-renowned status in movies, television and finance (or whatever). Again, this is an article about the city itself, with the surrounding communities information being in a different section after it's history and community information.

"...Beverly Hills is home to fewer children under 5 years old (about half as many, on average) than live in the entire state of California, and the city is home to almost twice as many seniors over the age of 65." Am I just reading this wrong, or does this sentence make no sense? Shouldn't it read "...Beverly Hills is home to fewer children under 5 years old (about half as many, on average) AS ANY OTHER CITY IN the state of California, and the city is home to almost twice as many seniors over the age of 65"?


== NPOV? (and inconsistency) ==
== NPOV? (and inconsistency) ==

Revision as of 04:36, 12 March 2012


Untitled

Changed to 90% below poverty line. I've attended city meeting for bhhs students, city manager actually told us it was 90%...

We need a verifiable source for that, please. Thanks, -Will Beback 02:48, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What does it mean ...granted "a tract of land styled San Antonio." 'Styled' is a funny verb here, no?

Introduction

I have rarely read a Wikipedia entry that required more cleanup than this article about Beverly Hills. The introduction needs a complete overhaul -- the existing opening line referencing West Hollywood [?] and other communities and location information be moved to another section about bordering municipalities.

This leading section should be a summary of what the city is, located in west Los Angeles, and then summarizing it's world-renowned status in movies, television and finance (or whatever). Again, this is an article about the city itself, with the surrounding communities information being in a different section after it's history and community information.

"...Beverly Hills is home to fewer children under 5 years old (about half as many, on average) than live in the entire state of California, and the city is home to almost twice as many seniors over the age of 65." Am I just reading this wrong, or does this sentence make no sense? Shouldn't it read "...Beverly Hills is home to fewer children under 5 years old (about half as many, on average) AS ANY OTHER CITY IN the state of California, and the city is home to almost twice as many seniors over the age of 65"?

NPOV? (and inconsistency)

The article contains "The Golden Triangle, with Rodeo Drive at its center, was built and marketed to the rest of the world as the shopping destination of a lifetime, despite a decidedly unexciting ambiance. In fact, many stores cater to the over-60 crowd." I don't think this can be described as NPOV. It is actually pretty offensive to those over 60. Notinasnaid 18:58, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The next sentence also has a problem: The entire Trousdale Estates area (consisting of many streets) was created during the 1950s, according to the article, so Via Rodeo can't possibly be "the first new street in Beverly Hills in seventy-six years." 24.5.188.157 22:08, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Were you afraid to remove something so blatantly incorrect? I did it for you. Hrhadam (talk) 07:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quiry

How are the Mayor and the Vice-Mayor the same person? If that is the case, then why is Vice-Mayor even listed? - JVG 12:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Political affinity

The remaining 23.8% either declined to state political affiliation or are registered with one of the many minor political parties.

I feel the statement is a bit undescriptive. 23.8% is quite a large percentage. I would assume most of these decline to comment but its possible quite a high percentage are registered with minor political parties. In any case, I feel this needs improvement. You don't have to state the percentages for each political party although if there are any with over 5% I would suggest it should also be stated expicilitly. But you should at least state the number who declined as a seperate figure. Nil Einne 15:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Map

Shouldn't there be a map showing it's location ? -- Beardo 16:45, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There should be. Also, the intro states that Beverly Hills is entirely surrounded by the city of Los Angeles and that it borders the city of West Hollywood. Both statements cannot be true. --Nelson Ricardo 03:23, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Maps are good, but finding one that is not copyright can be difficult. Notinasnaid 13:08, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, the statements could both be true if the city of West Hollywood is part of the city of Los Angeles. Notinasnaid 13:10, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
West Hollywood is a separate incorporated city within Los Angeles County. 24.5.188.157 22:01, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

questions on city history

I wonder how come Richard Burton (land owner, not actor) and C.W. Griffith aren't mentioned in cofoundation of Beverly Hills? I figured the man was Burton E. Green and I may got the name wrong. Not only Burton's name is recognized in the history of Los Angeles, but has a street named for him: Burton Way, the dividing line of the city in address designation (anywhere north of Burton addresses are 100, 200 and 300N, south of Burton is 100 S, 200S and 300S). Is Burton E. Green and Richard Burton the same man or came from the same family? I'm so confused on this matter, reply on that. + Mike D 26 12:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to be an example of one of those mistakes that gets copied over to a few different places on the internet. Burton Way is named for Burton Green, not Richard Burton. I'll remove the incorrect reference from the article. Incidentally, Burton Green owned a 4 acre estate located on Cove Way, above Sunset Boulevard. Hrhadam (talk) 07:31, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Name of the city

How did the city come to be called Beverly Hills? I see no explanation for this anywhere in the article. Funnyhat 23:47, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was named after the Beverly Hills Hotel which was named after the Beverly Canyon that the hotel sits in. Where Beverly Canyon got its name-I dont know? 75.43.194.113 06:46, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's just plain silly! When the name was devised, William Howard Taft was President of the United States and he maintained a “Summer White House” in Beverly, MA. THAT is where the name came from. Dick Kimball (talk) 13:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Beverly Hills is also called Bhairav Choti in the rest of the world. - I'd have to say that's probably not the rest of the English speaking world Photovoltage (talk) 21:28, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're all incorrect. Additionally, Beverly Hills is the sister city of Cannes, as denoted by signs at certain entry points to the city. Maybe I'll add this fact and leave it unsourced, as is the rest of this pathetic article. Hrhadam (talk) 07:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ZIP codes

Infobox says ZIP codes are: 90210, 90211, 90212. Article says ZIP codes are: 90210, 90211, 90212, 90213. It seems contradictory. --Ysangkok (talk) 20:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

90213 = PO Boxes only. Hrhadam (talk) 07:37, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Demographics

"The racial makeup of the city was 85.1% White (Including Iranians) or African American" - I'm confused with this statement. Does this mean that African-Americans are included in the Beverly Hills census with whites, and if so why? Shouldn't there also be a statistic for the percentage of city population that is African-American? 72.39.210.23 (talk) 18:08, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Photo Caption

The photo caption "Beverly Hills Police being inspected by Sir Harry Lauder, late 1930s" is surely a malicious entry. Sir must have been 70 at the time and the man in the picture appears younger. Also see now reason why he should be in California wearing a police uniform and carrying a firearmMatthew10946 (talk) 22:25, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

remove/overhaul local diverity section under demographics

the article cites nothing for many of the claims it makes. i attached at least 20 citation needed for all the empty claims made in that section. Can someone either get to citing any of those claims or remove that section completely? - Xenfreak (talk) 17:51, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Income?

Why is there no information on the median income? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.0.71.178 (talk) 00:01, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Avoiding unsourced material re Persian/Jewish population

These IPs from Czechoslavakis the Czech Republic (85.162.96.197, 85.162.172.143, 85.162.62.139, 85.162.50.187) are repeatedly inserting badly sourced information about the Persian/Jewish population of Beverly Hills and its high school. Based on this track record, watchers of this page should be alert to future misinformation stemming from similar IPs. Given the geopolitical tensions related to these groups, I believe it is in Wikipedia's interest to err on the side of caution, and of being well-sourced on this issue. For demographic purposes, article about a television program is hardly a reliable source. I will remove the latest badly sourced information, that User:Severino already flagged as dubious. Especially on a topic like this, let us have reliable sources before inserting material. Health Researcher (talk) 01:05, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I accept your reproach, but please notice, that Czechoslovakia no longer exists for more than 20 years. You must be an American.--85.162.22.3 (talk) 02:07, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Circular reference?

There appears to be a circular reference in footnote #11. The source article referenced attributes it's content, at least in part, to the Wikipedia entry on Beverly Hills! This needs to be sorted out and 're-cited', so to speak.

Ironically, the site cited in #11 contains a much more cogent and easy to read history of the area. Whether the facts are right -- who knows! (There are no citations or foot notes.)

BTW, This wikipedia article needs SO MUCH help! I can't believe some BH Realtor or other community VIP hasn't taken the initiative and edited it -- it could be quite the 'feather in the cap'. It's just a teeny-tiny bit disgraceful!

Good luck!

208.54.39.180 (talk) 05:48, 29 July 2011 (UTC) A Cuban-American Princess[reply]

Apex?

Near the bottom of the page is:

"The Golden Triangle, with Rodeo Drive at its center, was marketed as the apex of chic shopping and fashion."

I have removed some of the links so as not to confuse the search bots any more than necessary.

I note that "apex" is wikilinked, which takes it to a disambig page from which a plethora of different usages of apex are used, none of which are appropriate for this example of marketing psychobabble. My gut reaction would be simply to remove the link. Anyone object? Or should we set up a page for a general definition of "apex", or should we link to Wiktionary or something? --Matt Westwood 12:28, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Location & surrounding municipalities...?

I don't believe that the city of BH is surrounded by the CITY OF LA, I'm pretty sure it's bounded at least on the north by [unincorporated?] areas of LA county which is a VERY different thing. Does anyone else know or have an opinion strong enough to motivate some research & editing?

I've just completed an edit of what is now the first paragraph. Please see summary. I did some quick census research and looked up the word "dignitary" to make sure I was correct before I made any changes.

I don't have any more bandwidth for this right now.

I agree with the earlier comment that it's pretty messy but at least someone started it and now it's easier for us to pitch in here and there to refine it.

Thank you,

Robin (iamtheyorkiemom) 8:22 pm 3-8-12— Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamtheyorkiemom (talkcontribs) 03:20, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]