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Happy new year![edit]


Hi Presearch. My sincere thanks for your comments at Template talk:Hindu philosophy#Jainism, Buddhism, Carvaka and Ajivika part of Hinduism?. Also my apologies for involving you there; I did so precisely because of our diagreements on "dharmic traditions," knowing that you've always insisted on showing the relations between the various Indian traditions. I trusted, and do trust, that you appreciate the irony of me asking for your opinion and help on this.
I have to admit that my opinions on this topic are shifting, due to my prolonged reading and writing on these topics, including Unifying Hinduism. Best regards, and a heartfelt thanks, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 03:28, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I did appreciate the irony.... but that's the sort of thing that can come to [your] mind (and be successfully implemented) when one has a degree of detachment from one's opinions. While I'm not looking to take on new WP activities (chronic time shortage, blah, blah, blah), I appreciated the invitation and chance to offer perspectives. Interesting to know your overall thoughts/perspectives are continuing to evolve (as are mine). Best --Presearch (talk) 17:56, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Definition of religion[edit]

"usefulness of a tradition for transforming and sanctifying the lives of people of diverse temperments" - that's a nice criterium. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:42, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Yeah... One of the observations made in some of the psychology literature is that one may view spirituality as the purpose of religion (and one of the ways of capturing a key dimension of spirituality is to talk about virtues and transformation/sanctification of personality), See, for example, Miller, W. R.; Thoresen, C. E. (2003). "Spirituality, religion, and health: An emerging research field". American Psychologist 58 (1): 24–35. doi:10.1037/0003-066X.58.1.24. PMID 12674816.  edit -- page 28 says "...Viewed in this way, the field of religion is to spirituality as the field of medicine is to health." Thanks --Presearch (talk) 18:28, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
I also think that religion provides the elements (stories, symbols, etc) which, when internalised, come alive in the recipient, being experienced as a manifestation in the world: the world becomes the "playground" of the religious narrative, is the religious narrative and imaginary. Tantra is a very good example, but also the "tale Kanaans" ("the language of Kanaan," that is, Biblical language). We learn all the elements, and then they come alive: we "get it," become converted, enlighted, etc. NB: it took me more than 25 years to "get this point," fitting all the elements together. Best regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:53, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Abecedare just mentioned 'Barbara A. Holdrege's Veda and Torah: Transcending the Textuality of Scripture at Talk:Rigveda#Reference to Hinduism; sounds like an illustration of what I just mentioned. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:06, 18 July 2015 (UTC)



Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:47, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

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Oral tradition[edit]

Interesting point. So, what happens when an orla tradition gets fixated in a (printed) canon? My bet: new oral traditions develop, without "official" canonical authority, such as multiple religious belonging, and the combining of elements from various religions and traditions. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:33, 30 July 2015 (UTC)