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From [[Talk:Climate_change_policy_of_the_United_States#resource_in_current_issue_of_Environment_.28Vol._53.2C_5.2C_Sept.2FOct_2011.29|resource in current issue of Environment (Vol. 53, 5, Sept/Oct 2011)]] ... http://www.environmentmagazine.org/Archives/Back%20Issues/2011/September-October%202011/climate-change-full.html ... on Table 1. ''Flagship Legislation'', China's [[National Climate Change Programme (2007)]], stating ''Main purpose'' ...
From [[Talk:Climate_change_policy_of_the_United_States#resource_in_current_issue_of_Environment_.28Vol._53.2C_5.2C_Sept.2FOct_2011.29|resource in current issue of Environment (Vol. 53, 5, Sept/Oct 2011)]] ... http://www.environmentmagazine.org/Archives/Back%20Issues/2011/September-October%202011/climate-change-full.html ... on Table 1. ''Flagship Legislation'', China's [[National Climate Change Programme (2007)]], stating ''Main purpose'' ...

"This program focuses on five key areas:
"This program focuses on five key areas:
(i) greenhouse gas (GHG) [[Climate_change_mitigation_scenarios#Target_levels_of_CO2|mitigation]];
* (i) greenhouse gas (GHG) [[Climate_change_mitigation_scenarios#Target_levels_of_CO2|mitigation]];
(ii) [[Adaptation to global warming|adaptation]]
* (ii) [[Adaptation to global warming|adaptation]]
(iii) science and technology;
* (iii) science and technology;
(iv) public awareness' and
* (iv) public awareness' and
(v) institutions and mechanisms.
* (v) institutions and mechanisms.

Measures include strengthening the existing energy legal system, improving the national energy program, implementing the Renewable Energy Law, promoting favorable conditions for renewable energy development and GHG mitigation, stimulating energy price reform, optimizing the energy mix, and promoting innovation and efficiency improvements in various power-generating technologies (renewable and nonrenewable), including nuclear power." Date passed: 2007 (revised in 2008 and 2009)
Measures include strengthening the existing energy legal system, improving the national energy program, implementing the Renewable Energy Law, promoting favorable conditions for renewable energy development and GHG mitigation, stimulating energy price reform, optimizing the energy mix, and promoting innovation and efficiency improvements in various power-generating technologies (renewable and nonrenewable), including nuclear power." Date passed: 2007 (revised in 2008 and 2009)
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wikification

I removed the 'needs to be wikified' tag on 23 march, after adding internal wiki links and correcting syntax of the external links. If there's more wikification that needs to be done, please do it, or indicate to me here (I'm watching) what needs to be done. Thanks. --CathCarey (talk) 21:01, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

External links

I just emptied out the external links section, as it contained mostly news articles about climate change in China. As most if not all of these constitute reliable sources, I'll post them here if anybody wants to use them to build up the article.

ThemFromSpace 05:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Add Bill McKibben's June 2011 National Geographic article Can China Go Green? No other country is investing so heavily in clean energy. But no other country burns as much coal to fuel its economy

Add Bill McKibben's an Can China Go Green? No other country is investing so heavily in clean energy. But no other country burns as much coal to fuel its economy June 2011 National Geographic. 99.181.156.9 (talk) 18:33, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resource by Bill McKibben in the June 2011 National Geographic ...

Can China Go Green? No other country is investing so heavily in clean energy. But no other country burns as much coal to fuel its economy June 2011 National Geographic 99.56.120.252 (talk) 05:00, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification needed in section References regarding ... * Update: Climate change: Holding back hail

Clarification needed in section References regarding ...

  • Update: Climate change: Holding back hail Nature (journal). The amount of hail falling in China has almost halved since 1980 because of global warming...hail is also decreasing in the United States Therefore the pattern could be a global phenomenon linked to climate change.... 03 Sep 2008, Research Highlights from Nature China 99.181.156.173 (talk) 00:09, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Relevance? And doesn't that counteract the claim that climate change causes insured damage? — Arthur Rubin (talk) 05:39, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Art, please attempt to focus, you are again not helping to clarify wp articles ... see Debate over China's economic responsibilities for climate change mitigation, this article. 99.181.145.99 (talk) 19:16, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you frequently introduce discussions of topic A linking to topic B on topic C's page. And you've been edit warring to include a Swiss insurance company's estimates of damage due to global warming on multiple articles. This statement notes that global warming may reduce damage due to hail, which the Swiss company undoubtedly did not take into account.
But relevance to this article is still questionable. It might relate to a different article on climate change in China, but it does not relate at all to the subject of this article. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 02:55, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Look at where the Nature (journal) Update is now in the article and who put it there. One must endeavor to understand first, and attempt to communicate second, please. 99.181.157.60 (talk) 18:04, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Nature article by Tim Reid has original article citations by Xie, B., Zhang, Q. & Wang, Y. Trends in hail in China during 1960–2005. Geophysical Research Letters doi: 10.1029/2008GL034067 (2008). Is this "Update relevant to this article, maybe moved to Effects of global warming, and/or Regional effects of global warming? 99.181.128.190 (talk) 04:41, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Removed; clearly irrelevant to this article. Thanks for pointing it out. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 07:19, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Add "China to cap energy use in national low-carbon plan; Limit is expected to form cornerstone of five-year plan to curb surging greenhouse gas emissions" source

China to cap energy use in national low-carbon plan; Limit is expected to form cornerstone of five-year plan to curb surging greenhouse gas emissions by Tania Branigan in Beijing via guardian.co.uk 4 August 2011 , excerpt

A cap on energy consumption is expected to be at the heart of a Chinese low-carbon plan to be issued this year, experts believe, amid reports that officials have now agreed its level. China is the world's biggest emitter of greenhouse gases, making up a quarter of the global total. Experts say setting an energy limit would add certainty to the country's attempts to rein in emissions and should make it easier for emissions trading schemes to get off the ground. The cap has been anticipated for some time but is now thought likely to emerge in the low-carbon plan understood to have been broadly approved by a panel set up by the state council, China's cabinet, and chaired by the premier, Wen Jiabao. It should be formally passed later this year. Reuters reported[1] that officials have settled on a total energy cap of 4.1bn tonnes of coal equivalent (TCE) by 2015 – a level more than 25% higher than last year. Analysts warn that the plan has yet to be nailed down and that a cap could still be delayed by disagreements, to re-emerge in a later policy document. ...

China set to cap energy use in national low-carbon plan By David Stanway in Beijing Aug 4, 2011 via Reuters (Editing by David Fogarty). 99.181.138.215 (talk) 00:35, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Excerpts

"If you have a total energy cap you can translate that into an emissions number or trade energy credits -- it gives a lot of different options," said Deborah Seligsohn, a climate policy expert working for the World Resources Institute in Beijing. "You can use a cap for lots of other purposes but you need a ceiling to create the incentive to trade," she said. ... Han Wenke, the head of the Energy Research Institute, a government think-tank, told a meeting this week it will be formally passed later this year once recommendations from other government departments have been collected. Few surprises are expected, with many of China's five-year carbon dioxide (CO2), energy and pollution targets already confirmed. But formal recognition is likely to be given to six pilot low-carbon zones in the provinces of Guangdong and Hubei and the cities of Tianjin, Beijing, Chongqing, and Shanghai.

99.181.138.215 (talk) 00:48, 18 August 2011 (UTC) [reply]

Zhang Guobao, formerly China's senior energy official, told state news agency Xinhua after his retirement in March that the cap would stand at 4 billion TCE, and some scholars involved in the discussions last year were proposing a figure as low as 3.6 billion TCE. "The number is definitely at the higher end, there's no doubt about that, and this tells you how fierce the debate has been internally," said Wu Changhua, China representative with London-based NGO The Climate Group. "But it is a good starting point. There were a lot of very aggressive scholars arguing forcefully for a much lower cap, saying there is no way we can carry on like this, but there were also moments of doubt whether the cap would be there or not."

99.181.138.215 (talk) 00:53, 18 August 2011 (UTC) [reply]

It eventually plans to bring carbon intensity down by 40-45 percent by 2020 from 2005 levels, following a pledge it made before global climate talks in Copenhagen in 2009. ... Last week, the National Development and Reform Commission for the first time published the names of regions that were struggling to meet targets, including undeveloped and resource-dependent Ningxia, Qinghai and Xinjiang in the northwest as well as the economic powerhouse of Jiangsu on the eastern coast. "The NDRC are playing a watchdog role to see if they are going to make it or not. I interpret this very positively, and it is part of the lessons they learnt from previous years," said Wu of The Climate Group. ... The plan is also likely to include absolute targets to restrict a series of major pollutants, targets already passed by the Ministry of Environmental Protection. Reports suggest it will also propose tougher energy-saving building codes, more backing for hybrid cars and further instructions to eliminate aging industrial capacity

99.181.138.215 (talk) 01:03, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Senior energy official" appears to be Vice Chairman of the National Development and Reform Commission. 64.27.194.74 (talk) 20:01, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resource for PRC green growth boom industry, from 4.February.2011

China plots course for green growth amid a boom built on dirty industry; National economic blueprint set to tackle pollution and waste, and invest in renewable energy by Jonathan Watts, Asia environment correspondent via guardian.co.uk 4.February.2011 99.181.138.215 (talk) 01:11, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

resource in current issue of Environment (Vol. 53, 5, Sept/Oct 2011)

From resource in current issue of Environment (Vol. 53, 5, Sept/Oct 2011) ... http://www.environmentmagazine.org/Archives/Back%20Issues/2011/September-October%202011/climate-change-full.html ... on Table 1. Flagship Legislation, China's National Climate Change Programme (2007), stating Main purpose ...

"This program focuses on five key areas:

  • (i) greenhouse gas (GHG) mitigation;
  • (ii) adaptation
  • (iii) science and technology;
  • (iv) public awareness' and
  • (v) institutions and mechanisms.

Measures include strengthening the existing energy legal system, improving the national energy program, implementing the Renewable Energy Law, promoting favorable conditions for renewable energy development and GHG mitigation, stimulating energy price reform, optimizing the energy mix, and promoting innovation and efficiency improvements in various power-generating technologies (renewable and nonrenewable), including nuclear power." Date passed: 2007 (revised in 2008 and 2009) 97.87.29.188 (talk) 20:59, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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