Talk:Eritrea

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Tigray War

Who is going to write the section on Eritrea's involvement in the Tigray War? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rastakwere (talk • contribs) 11:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

I've put a brief referenced cross-link to Tigray War. This article is not the place to put a big section on Eritrean involvement in the Tigray War, it seems to me. We should put content in the main article where people expect to find it, and just brief cross-links (including references) at other related articles. People who wish to update or NPOV Wikipedia documentation of a piece of knowledge should be able to do the main update in the most obvious place. At the moment, I'm not sure we have enough sources for a systematic overview of Eritrean involvement in the Tigray War, especially since a lot of the reports are ambiguous about whether the ENDF or EDF are responsible for a particular rape or other war crime (the TPLF war crimes are mostly separated from ENDF/EDF crimes in the sources), and from a totalitarian state, the media say even less than currently rather "restrained" non-Tigrayan Ethiopian media, who seem frightened of mentioning the Eritrean forces' atrocities. Boud (talk) 00:18, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

There's clearly other useful work to be done on this article, such as the factor of two debate in the total population... See the next section here on the talk page. Boud (talk) 01:13, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Population uncertain by a factor of two?

The sources we have (see this edit if you want to see the removed WHO source, which gave a 2016 estimate, and the removed 'index mundi' source, which states that it just repeats the CIA Factbook estimate) disagree between two sources giving 3.6 million for 2021, and one source giving 6.15 million. Given the totalitarian nature of Eritrea, it's unsurprising that if official censuses are either not done or not credible, the external estimates vary so hugely. Let's see if the sources give their sources or methods:

• CIA 6.15 M - I didn't find an explanation of the method or source
• countrymeters - United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs: Population Division - https://esa.un.org/unpd/wpp, leading to this WPP file, which, after libreoffice --convert-to csv and grep Eritrea WPP2019_POP_F01_1_TOTAL_POPULATION_BOTH_SEXES.csv gives for the years "2016,2017,2018,2019,2020", "3376.558,3412.894,3452.797,3497.117,3546.427". So Countrymeters has correctly read the World Population Prospects estimates: 3.5 to 3.6 million is a minor difference.
• statista - subscription required for source info

Unless we have a more serious source than the ones found so far, it seems to me that we can refer mainly to the WPP estimate and leave the CIA estimate as the least serious one. Boud (talk) 01:13, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

I don’t see we’re your trying to go with this. There are multiple source that indicates that Eritrea has a population of about six million, since when did the CIA become a non credible source?Leechjoel9 (talk) 11:00, 22 February 2021 (UTC)