Talk:G4 EA H1N1

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I did a Marie Kondo on the footnote clusters -there's a lot of overlapping information to parse. kencf0618 (talk) 09:04, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomenclature

We should keep a close eye on the nomenclature of this thing: G4 is a genotype, EA = Eurasian avian-like; A/H1N1 is a subtype of the Influenza A virus with the glycoproteins haemagglutinin and neuraminidase (with the number denoting depending the type of H or N antigens they express with metabolic synergy). "G4 EA H1N1" shall be simplified; "the flu" hasn't gone away. kencf0618 (talk) 09:15, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline

I've begun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_G4_EA_H1N1_in_June_2020. Initially began the COVID-19 timeline by splitting it from the main article on 2020-01-23, so I figured that we'd get ahead of the curve. Influenza is no joke. kencf0618 (talk) 14:57, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:Kencf0618; It’s probably a redirect/merge until more events/discoveries happen related to this virus. Eternal Shadow Talk 23:47, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to see that was nixed. WP:NOTNEWS ... could we stay more WP:MEDRS focused here, to avoid the Wikipedia COVID debacle? This article was engaging in newsy clickbait scare mongering. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:SandyGeorgia, agreed, I think we’re overreacting and calling it a pandemic too early. Eternal Shadow Talk 15:08, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you can all see from my edits how wrong the laypress had it, why we don't use the laypress for biohealth info (see WP:MEDRS), that there was undue emphasis on many aspects in this article, that some information was made up, and that we should cite the actual journal article when we can instead of clickbait laypress headlines. See the journal article citation for how I added a laysummary to serve the average reader, while avoiding citing the laypress wherever possible. There are good reasons for WP:NOTNEWS and WP:MEDRS, and these core policies and guidelines have been breached throughout the COVID suite of articles-- let's not start it here. Less is more. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:17, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Four years old?

It appears that this new G4 strain has been around for over four years, based on the articles below. (segments included)

SCMP 12/29/2015

“After long-term evolution in pigs, the EAH1N1 SIVs have obtained the traits to cause a human influenza pandemic,” they said. Researchers found that only 3.6 per cent of children aged below 10 and 13.4 per cent of the elderly aged 60 or above had antibodies against one of the two subgroups of the Eurasian avian-like H1N1 lineage. No adults have antibodies against this subgroup.

PNAS 1/12/2016

Importantly, the EAH1N1 SIVs preferentially bound to human-type receptors, and 9 of the 10 tested viruses transmitted in ferrets by respiratory droplet. We found that 3.6% of children (≤10 y old), 0% of adults, and 13.4% of elderly adults (≥60 y old) had neutralization antibodies...Our study shows the potential of EAH1N1 SIVs to transmit efficiently in humans and suggests that immediate action is needed to prevent the efficient transmission of EAH1N1 SIVs to humans.

PNAS 6/29/2020

Here, we report on an influenza virus surveillance of pigs from 2011 to 2018 in China, and identify a recently emerged genotype 4 (G4) reassortant Eurasian avian-like (EA) H1N1 virus, which bears 2009 pandemic (pdm/09) and triple-reassortant (TR)-derived internal genes and has been predominant in swine populations since 2016. ...Controlling the prevailing G4 EA H1N1 viruses in pigs and close monitoring in human populations, especially the workers in swine industry, should be urgently implemented. --Light show (talk) 00:51, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And I saw one source referencing a 2009 date; this article is really messed up, and using lay sources when WP:MEDRS sources are available. There is more wrong here than I can fix, and I have asked virus specialist Graham Beards to have a look ... hope he has time. The sensationalistic lay sources are good for clickbait, but not for sourcing medical content. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:04, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Carelessness in biohealth articles

Considering that this article got more than 35,000 pageviews while it was in a state of laypress-reported clickbait hysteria, please take greater care to respect WP:MEDRS and WP:NOTNEWS when reporting biomedical/health information on Wikipedia. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]