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The "Modern" section appears very clunky and I believe it should be split. Covering world events, policies, politics, etc. from 1890 through the [[20th century]] seems over-eager. Recommend a new section be created starting with President Hinckley (1995 to present) to represent the [[Postmodernity|Post-Modern Era]]. Further, the LDS Church seems to be undergoing significant flux, beginning 10 or so years ago, which needs separate attention from, say, ''LDS multiculturalism''. [[User:Deaddebate|Deaddebate]] ([[User talk:Deaddebate|talk]]) 00:02, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
The "Modern" section appears very clunky and I believe it should be split. Covering world events, policies, politics, etc. from 1890 through the [[20th century]] seems over-eager. Recommend a new section be created starting with President Hinckley (1995 to present) to represent the [[Postmodernity|Post-Modern Era]]. Further, the LDS Church seems to be undergoing significant flux, beginning 10 or so years ago, which needs separate attention from, say, ''LDS multiculturalism''. [[User:Deaddebate|Deaddebate]] ([[User talk:Deaddebate|talk]]) 00:02, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

:I agree with separating out a section beginning sometime in the late 20th century. But I'd like to have a discussion about (1) what it should be called, and (2) where the dividing line should be.
:On the first point, although the church is certainly postmodern in the sense that it has become fully integrated into the institutions of [[late capitalism]], I'm wondering if this way of looking at it is a bit too academic for the average reader. I don't really have a good alternative in mind, though.
:On the second point, I'm wondering if a better dividing line separating the two eras might be 1978 rather than 1995. The hear 1978, of course, was when the church ended its official segregationist policies. Soon thereafter, the church began redefining itself in terms of the culture wars, beginning with opposition to the ERA and then, in the 1990s, opposition to marriage equality. I also think that certain other events in the 1980s and 1990s fit more in the current era than in the former, such as
:in 1981 and 1982 when it began focusing on the Book of Mormon as its main holy book, the 1990 revisions to the temple ceremony, the crackdown on dissidents culminating in the 1993 September Six trials, and various structural reforms such as the elimination of state seventies in 1986, the Second Quorum of the Seventy in 1984, the use of emeritus status, etc. <span style="text-shadow:1px 1px 1px grey">[[User:COGDEN|''CO<small>GDEN</small>'']]</span> 00:25, 8 February 2023 (UTC)


== Capital on The in the title ==
== Capital on The in the title ==

Revision as of 00:25, 8 February 2023

Add a "Post-Modern Era" section? (1995 to present)

The "Modern" section appears very clunky and I believe it should be split. Covering world events, policies, politics, etc. from 1890 through the 20th century seems over-eager. Recommend a new section be created starting with President Hinckley (1995 to present) to represent the Post-Modern Era. Further, the LDS Church seems to be undergoing significant flux, beginning 10 or so years ago, which needs separate attention from, say, LDS multiculturalism. Deaddebate (talk) 00:02, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with separating out a section beginning sometime in the late 20th century. But I'd like to have a discussion about (1) what it should be called, and (2) where the dividing line should be.
On the first point, although the church is certainly postmodern in the sense that it has become fully integrated into the institutions of late capitalism, I'm wondering if this way of looking at it is a bit too academic for the average reader. I don't really have a good alternative in mind, though.
On the second point, I'm wondering if a better dividing line separating the two eras might be 1978 rather than 1995. The hear 1978, of course, was when the church ended its official segregationist policies. Soon thereafter, the church began redefining itself in terms of the culture wars, beginning with opposition to the ERA and then, in the 1990s, opposition to marriage equality. I also think that certain other events in the 1980s and 1990s fit more in the current era than in the former, such as
in 1981 and 1982 when it began focusing on the Book of Mormon as its main holy book, the 1990 revisions to the temple ceremony, the crackdown on dissidents culminating in the 1993 September Six trials, and various structural reforms such as the elimination of state seventies in 1986, the Second Quorum of the Seventy in 1984, the use of emeritus status, etc. COGDEN 00:25, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Capital on The in the title

By itself, it is "The Church of", but when something else is prefixed "the" is no longer the first word and orthographically it loses the capital. Anyone have a problem with me changing it? deisenbe (talk) 23:49, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I do. A big problem. The common name of the Church is "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." So whenever referring to the full name thereof, "The" is always capitalized, per this policy, and this policy, among others. If there are references to what "the church" does in articles where the full name is not being used, then neither of the two words in such references should be capitalized. And all of that is further detailed in the relevant manual of style that Wikipedia uses for all such articles. If I am minsunderstanding your question, please feel free to clarify your question. Thanks. --Jgstokes (talk) 21:36, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Title capitalization

The title of this article, along with a provision at MOS:LDS, violates MOS:THEINST, a site-wide guideline which trumps WP:LOCALCONSENSUS. Please participate in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Latter Day Saints § Capitalization issue. Thanks. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:56, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]