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:I'm Jewish. I'm a Mizrahi Jew, more specifically a Mashadi Persian Jew and with the obvious exception of the transliteration of Yud to J, this was essentially the pronunciation I've always been taught. I checked with an orthodox Ashkenazi friend, and he agrees. Frankly, I find the other pronunciation here—the one presented as the historians' consensus—perposterous. Are you just complaining about the transliteration of the first letter? [[User:DanHakimi|Daniel J. Hakimi]] ([[User talk:DanHakimi|talk]]) 20:07, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
:I'm Jewish. I'm a Mizrahi Jew, more specifically a Mashadi Persian Jew and with the obvious exception of the transliteration of Yud to J, this was essentially the pronunciation I've always been taught. I checked with an orthodox Ashkenazi friend, and he agrees. Frankly, I find the other pronunciation here—the one presented as the historians' consensus—perposterous. Are you just complaining about the transliteration of the first letter? [[User:DanHakimi|Daniel J. Hakimi]] ([[User talk:DanHakimi|talk]]) 20:07, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

== List of names that refer to Jehovah? ==

All the names in bible that start with Jeho, sometimes even just Jo, refer by definition to the name Jehovah. Jehoshaphat, Jehosheba, Jehoshua, Jehoram, Jehonathan, Jehonadab, (update after) etcetera, so where is the list of names in the is article? Where is the article for this massive list of names that happens to exist if you include the suffixed names along with the prefixed names? This article states that the Tetragrammaton is in the bible almost seven thousand times, but I have little doubt that if you include all th names that refer to the Tetragrammaton there are likely tens of thousands of references. This seems like a glaring omission from both this article and from Wikipedia. [[Special:Contributions/24.78.228.96|24.78.228.96]] ([[User talk:24.78.228.96|talk]]) 09:02, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

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Title of Picture of 1611 KJV Exodus 6:3 (currently the first picture in the article)

As is correctly stated later in this same article, The 1611 KJV did not actually use the letter J. Additionally, it was printed in Gothic Font.

The picture is of some later printing of the KJV (I do not know what year), and the title of the picture should be changed to accurately reflect this, otherwise it is misleading to the non-scholar reader. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.91.25.184 (talk) 01:56, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The letter J first appeared in the 1629 1st Revision Cambridge King James Bible. 2601:589:4801:5660:483E:B81B:28E5:8973 (talk) 22:24, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 December 2020

The last sentence of the first paragraph in the Hebrew vowel points section should end in a period instead of a comma. 2001:1970:5A9F:C200:A1FE:DA8B:5EE6:8E99 (talk) 01:44, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Elizium23 (talk) 04:05, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccurate statement in article.

UPDATE: Apparently what we have here in the second sentence of the opening paragraph is not a statement about "Jehovah", but, rather about the Tetragrammaton. The antecedent to the pronoun "It" (the subject of the second sentence) is actually supposed to be the Tetragrammaton (following the linked article reveals this).

The opening paragraph of this article states that Jehovah: "…is considered one of the seven names of God in Judaism and one of the names of God in Christianity."

I am a Jewish lay leader, and I have studied Judaism as my faith for decades. In my Jewish studies, I have no experience in which I have encountered the word "Jehovah" as a representative name for God. I understand that it is a Gentile/Christian contrivance (or mistransliteration). Certainly the Christians claim the name as valid for their God, but to the best of my understanding, "Jehovah" has never been used by Jews in any sincere or reverent reference to God. It's not even a linguistic analog for any actual name for God found in Jewish scripture or Jewish epigraphical works, such as the Mishnah, Talmud, or Gemara. So, if the first part of the previously quoted statement is to stand, then it requires a citation (Best of luck finding one).Basilikon (talk) 03:25, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this Basilikon, and your edit to the main article. I would just like to caveat the above about Jehovah with "some Christians claim the name as valid for their God"; most now will either use Yahweh, or not bother using a specific name (the LORD usually suffices :) ). I am to understand some Karaite Jews may use Yehovah (y as opposed to j) as a representative name for God: is your comment concerning both Jehovah/Yehovah, or just specifically Jehovah? I believe I already know the answer, but would just like to clarifiy. Stephen Walch (talk) 06:40, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm Jewish. I'm a Mizrahi Jew, more specifically a Mashadi Persian Jew and with the obvious exception of the transliteration of Yud to J, this was essentially the pronunciation I've always been taught. I checked with an orthodox Ashkenazi friend, and he agrees. Frankly, I find the other pronunciation here—the one presented as the historians' consensus—perposterous. Are you just complaining about the transliteration of the first letter? Daniel J. Hakimi (talk) 20:07, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of names that refer to Jehovah?

All the names in bible that start with Jeho, sometimes even just Jo, refer by definition to the name Jehovah. Jehoshaphat, Jehosheba, Jehoshua, Jehoram, Jehonathan, Jehonadab, (update after) etcetera, so where is the list of names in the is article? Where is the article for this massive list of names that happens to exist if you include the suffixed names along with the prefixed names? This article states that the Tetragrammaton is in the bible almost seven thousand times, but I have little doubt that if you include all th names that refer to the Tetragrammaton there are likely tens of thousands of references. This seems like a glaring omission from both this article and from Wikipedia. 24.78.228.96 (talk) 09:02, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]