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Feuds within the music industry

The first sentence of the third paragraph reads: Morrissey have severely criticized fellow singers such as Madonna, David Bowie and George Michael.

This should either read "M. has severely..." or "M. has been severely..."

I don't know enough Morrissey trivia to know which.

Either way, there're no citations given for the severe criticism. Perhaps the sentence needs to go?

Wilde

It reads that Wilde was a homosexual. He was not. He had a wife and children. He believed in 'Greek Love'.

Greek, homosexual love.

Of course Wilde was a homosexual you idiot, he was in Reading Jail for confessing to it; in court, someone asked 'Mr Wilde, put simply, did you make love to this man?' Wilde replied 'absolutely not, that is wholly disgusting; he is far too ugly'

Tony quote?

Can I get a source for the Tony Visconti Quote about the next Moz album?

Piano

Other than the solo at the end of Death Of A Disco Dancer there hasn't been any recordings or live appearances where Morrissey has played the piano therefore I would hardly consider it a notable instrument. If there was any instrument other than his beautiful voice I'd say tamborine! So I think it's a wise idea it's removed from the page because he really isn't a pianist. JeSuisBryony 13 September 2008

2011 and present

This is a dispute on this page regarding this section:

In an online interview in June 2012, Morrissey reaffirmed a previous statement he had made indicating he had no plans to continue his music career past the age of 55.^[1] This has been seen by certain sections of the media as an indication of his imminent retirement.^[2]^[3]

The statement made here by Morrissey in the original article (http://msn.juiceonline.com/morrissey-wordsmith/) I believe can be seen as a legitimate announcement of plans of exiting the music scene and I don't understand why the edit is being consistently reverted.

Moz1916 (talk) 15:30, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have no problem with the current wording. The previous wording made it look like Morrissey had made some announcement that he was retiring in 2014, which was not the case. This new version makes it clear what he did say (with a cite to the original source), and that others have taken it to mean that he has set a date for retirement.

The version I did not care for (and reverted a couple of times) looked like this:

In an online interview in June 2012, Morrissey announced plans to retire in 2014 after 'aging a lot recently'.^[4]

-- Foetusized (talk) 16:26, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Gigantic Mexican following

He has a gigantic Mexican/Mexican-American following and the article only just barely touches on this. Why? --76.105.145.143 (talk) 03:51, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

^ Junaini, Hidzir (1 June 2012). "Morrissey: Wordsmith". Juice Online. Retrieved 08 June 2012. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)
^ Gilchrist, Todd (6 June 2012). "Morrissey Announces 2014 Retirement Plans". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved 07 June 2012. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)
^ "Morrissey eyes 2014 retirement". Toronto Sun. 5 June 2012. Retrieved 08 June 2012. {{cite news}}: Check |url= value (help); Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)
^ Gilchrist, Todd (6 June 2012). "Morrissey Announces 2014 Retirement Plans". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved 07 June 2012. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

[1] Junaini, Hidzir (1 June 2012). "Morrissey: Wordsmith". Juice Online. Retrieved 08 June 2012. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

[2] Gilchrist, Todd (6 June 2012). "Morrissey Announces 2014 Retirement Plans". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved 07 June 2012. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

[3] "Morrissey eyes 2014 retirement". Toronto Sun. 5 June 2012. Retrieved 08 June 2012. {{cite news}}: Check |url= value (help); Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

[4] Gilchrist, Todd (6 June 2012). "Morrissey Announces 2014 Retirement Plans". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved 07 June 2012. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

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