Talk:Parkour

YouTube

Would someone please put some Parkour videos or links on this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.104.170.255 (talk) 20:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

No per external links guideline. Carlosguitar ^{(ready and willing)} 15:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

From external links guideline "Linking to YouTube, Google Video, and similar sites: There is no blanket ban on linking to these sites as long as the links abide by the guidelines on this page (which would be infrequent). See also Wikipedia:Copyrights for the prohibition on linking to pages that violate copyrights." Still I don’t think adding links to parkour videos would improve the article. --S.dedalus (talk) 23:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I have put some pro vids [www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7J9makpr4k here]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Easyaspie (talk • contribs) 08:53, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

History section lacks reliable sources

Complete bullshit. The history especially lacks reliable sources. Although it's typical for this website, it's still irritating to find this anywhere on google. And what better way to tell the world that you are a biased towards the French than by describing the English as "Anglo-Saxon". Please tell me why I should believe anything written here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.69.205.69 (talk) 10:37, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I can understand that it is hard to find better sources for this article. But Hebert really influenced military training in France and other countries. Please cite sources if you believe otherwise. If you do not like Wikipedia get out here and find a better source for a "unbiased history of parkour". Carlosguitar ^{(ready and willing)} 06:41, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Carlosguitar, as you have pointed out innumerable times the burden of proof is one the person who ads material to an article. It does seem that there is a lot about Hébert, possibly undue wait. --S.dedalus (talk) 04:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

*sigh* I read correct?! Did you said that Hébert not influenced parkour and should be removed from history section? Carlosguitar ^{(ready and willing)} 05:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I’m saying the very large section on him may be undue wait. At the very least it leans far too heavily on two sources. --S.dedalus (talk) 21:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Well you need to do a better research about David Belle, Raymond Belle, Sébastien Foucan and Yamakasi traceurs before talking about Hébert as undue weight. History section needs to be expanded, I will do it later. Carlosguitar ^{(ready and willing)} 03:36, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

--S.dedalus (talk) 01:38, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

David Belle

Is he the founder or not? The photo caption states that he is but his wiki page states that he isnt! 199.191.74.20 (talk) 20:09, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

This was recently changed by a user on 7 March 2008, but is already fixed. Carlosguitar ^{(ready and willing)} 01:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Raymond Belle

"At age 19, his unique physical fitness and willingness allowed him to serve at Paris' regiment of sapeurs-pompiers" How was his physical fitness unique? Should we change this? Doesn't seem objective analysis if there isn't something to back it up. Muhvi 23:13, 18 March 2008 (UTC+2)

I changed a bit this sentence, I think it is better now. Carlosguitar ^{(Yes Executor?)} 04:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Sébastien Foucan

Sébastien Foucan (born May 24, 1974 in Paris, France) is one the founders of free running. He created the sport along with his friends including David Belle. He has been influenced by the art of parkour and is generally considered to be a "second generation" founder of parkour along with David Belle. He is well known as an ambassador for free running to many countries and is generally considered to represent free running. Well known for his views on the philosophy behind free running, he also stresses the need for proper training in the basics of free running, not only for safety, but also to maintain the positive appearance of the activity in the public eye.

He came to prominence in the United Kingdom after the showing of Mike Christie's Jump London documentary on Channel 4 in September 2003, and the subsequent documentary Jump Britain. In addition to leading these programs, Sébastien also appears as Mollaka in the 21st James Bond film, Casino Royale.[1] He spent three months in the Bahamas filming his role in the movie. A stunt double was used for portions of the opening chase scene.[2] Besides this, Sébastien appears in the music video for Madonna's 2005 single, Hung Up.

Foucan helped K-Swiss develop the Ariake, the first free running and parkour shoe in a line of 5 models. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.113.29.46 (talk) 14:24, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

It's freerunning not free running. This will be fixed. Tyciol (talk) 23:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Notability of section

The "Activism" section relies entirely on two chat room threads for sources. Per WP:SPS these sources are not acceptable. Unless better sources can be found establishing the notability of these events the section should be removed. --S.dedalus (talk) 05:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to remove, I also see no WP:WEIGHT for this section. Carlosguitar ^{(Yes Executor?)} 00:45, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Merely opinion

"The issue of "proper technique" is one mainly thought up in the UK and US. Many UK and US traceurs attempt to develop a "proper technique" in contrast to their French counterparts who do not focus on the technique but rather the idea behind it." THIS IS MERELY OPINION AND IS BASED ON NO FACT WHAT SO EVER ... it should be removed.— Preceding unsigned comment added by J05HYYY (talk • contribs)

 Done Carlosguitar ^{(Yes Executor?)} 19:52, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

It's not opinion, it's a fact. You'll never see the original traceurs talk about "proper technique". Perhaps if "UK and US" were omitted from the statement, it would be ok for the article. Noxteryn (talk) 14:09, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Anyway, we need a source to say it and see how is its reliability. Carlosguitar ^{(Yes Executor?)} 05:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Point-to-point walks

The Theodore Roosevelt citation is interesting, but "point-to-point walks" can be many thing, such as natural method or obstacle coursing. Unless a source is provided linking Roosevelt to parkour, this citation is better represented on Georges Hébert, obstacle course, fitness trail or other article. Carlosguitar ^{(Yes Executor?)} 19:49, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure, point to point walks can be many thing[s], the the text spelled out what was meant. It would be hard to link TR to something that didn't exist in his lifetime. "Anticipate" in the other hand, works. Everyone seems to want to control the article. What is it with Wikipeople?

I agree that it's too tricky including this without the article becoming WP:OR. I expect that there's parkour-like practices in many parts of the world and from many eras (steeplechase races for instance), but describing them, and deciding what does or doesn't qualify as "anticipating" parkour gets muddy fast.Cretog8 (talk) 03:22, 21 June 2008 (UTC)