Talk:University of Chicago

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"Old University of Chicago" Differentiation

There is an ongoing dispute on how closely connected the current University of Chicago is with the Old University of Chicago. While this debate is worthy of transparent discussion on this talk page, there are mostly anonymous wikieditors making revisions to the University of Chicago wikipage without review that are meant to strengthen the association between these two entities. The majority of these changes are present in the second paragraph of the history section which I believe needs to be addressed. As an employee of the university, I do not have a NPOV, and will not make these edits myself. I am writing to request the input of neutral wiki-editors on how to move forward. Of my suggested edits, the second paragraph of this history section requires a number of revisions, clarifications and accurate citations for it to be a fair representation of the university's history. I would be happy to provide suggested revisions for review on this page if desired. StickerMug (talk) 11:54, 8 Aug 2018 (CST)

Simplifing History Section, Redirecting to History-Specific Page

I would suggest simplifying the entire History Section of this page and redirecting users to the History of the University of Chicago page for more detail. (This approach is similar to Stanford's succinct History section on its main page.) Ideally, having a singular wikipage that details the history of the university would allow all wikieditors interested in contributing to have a single place to discuss, debate, and apply agreed-upon changes. StickerMug (talk) 11:59, 8 Aug 2018 (CST)

Old University of Chicago Disambiguation

Suggested edit in History Section header: Change "Further information: Old University of Chicago" to "Disambiguation: Old University of Chicago". StickerMug (talk) 13:07, 8 Aug 2018 (CST)

Reference about mass mailings

Hello,

I am a new editor and apologise in advance for any errors in the due process.

User:Filetime and I are having a dispute regarding the utility of a reference that I find anecdotal, inappropriate in its placement in the page, and not providing a quantifiable causation between mass mailings and admissions rate. It is this article and it does not present an objective, causal viewpoint regarding the decreasing admissions rate.

The reference pertains to the line "Admissions to the University of Chicago has become highly selective over the past two decades, reflecting changes in the application process, school popularity, and marketing strategy.[166][167][168] Between 1996 and 2020, the acceptance rate of the College fell from 71% to 6.2%.[169][170]" in section "Student Body and Admissions"

I have tried to discuss with Filetime on his Talk page, but he hasn't responded. The only communication I have had with him is an Edit War warning he published on my page.

I am happy to concede if this is just minutia, but the article seems subjectively charged without proving that 1) mass mailing is occurring and 2) that mass mailings have had a material effect on admissions, which is predicated in the line "reflecting changes in... marketing strategy"

Thank you for your time and energy in reading this, and I hope we can resolve this minor dispute.

Audipod (talk) 17:01, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Editing: upon further investigation, User:Filetime has a history of using unreliable sources in his page edits for other articles. See his Talk page.

@Audipod: Thanks for pointing out a single section regarding an article on Stephen Hopkins. Given that you are a new editor, I suggest you check out WP:I. This page will lead you through the basic information on editing and hopefully help with your next 20 edits. Hope this helps! Filetime (talk) 19:20, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

@Filetime: Hey Filetime, thanks for finally responding. You have not addressed any of my substantive addressed earlier; instead, you have accused me of violating Wikipedia policy, "It is against Wikipedia's policies to revert content that another user has reverted" yet you have been reverting my reversions regarding the aforementioned article. Furthermore, you haven't justified any of your edits or reversions, and deferred any communication. My only strife is with your selection of an unreliable source. I have been open to communication throughout this whole ordeal. Thanks for the helpful link, however.

Audipod (talk) 20:29, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

References

wp:NOTMEMORIAL

Because wp:NOTMEMORIAL was mentioned in the editing of this article as it pertains to students who have been killed, here is the policy and link for reference:

Memorials. Subjects of encyclopedia articles must satisfy Wikipedia's notability requirements. Wikipedia is not the place to memorialize deceased friends, relatives, acquaintances, or others who do not meet such requirements.

As you can see, this policy focuses on the notability of the deceased to avoid the creation of a memorial article for a person (ie, creating a Shaoxiong Zheng article); it does not mean that on Wikipedia we avoid mentioning people who have died. Given that three students were killed in separate incidents and that current students organized a protest on campus, it is hard to say that this information is not relevant to this article. In an article of this size, 2-3 sentences on this topic do not constitute undue weight. As always, a reliable source is necessary for every fact. (Heroeswithmetaphors) talk 17:07, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

No it's not due, we don't give statistics year to year. This is an encyclopedia article not news nor memorial. Alanscottwalker (talk) 17:38, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Probably Mention about John Rockefeller in the Intro?

John D. Rockefeller had contributed a lot to the university. He was the de facto founding sponsor of the university. Unliked other founding sponsors of universities (such as JHU, CMU, and Stanford), John D. Rockefeller did not even have a mention in the University of Chicago's introduction. Probably considering mention something about his generous donation and contribution to the university? He really made this university great and well-known. Please consider doing this. If he hadn't sponsored the university at the time, the University of Chicago might not have been as world-famous as it is now and has created so many cutting-edge academic achievements. Cfls (talk) 00:09, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Point taken, but there is a difference: JHU is short for Johns Hopkins University, CMU is short for Carnegie Mellon University and Stanford is named after, well, Leland Stanford. UChicago is not short for Rockefeller University which is in fact a completely separate institution. It may not have been at the time of your post, but Rockefeller is now listed as "Founder" in the infobox and as a major benefactor under Early Years. I think that is sufficient. — SoloBear 23:08, 19 August 2022 (UTC)