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as far as i can tell from the u of c's communications page regarding seals, the 'university seal' - rather than the presidential seal that currently heads the infobox - is the preferred emblem (after, of course, the logo, at the bottom of the infobox). not only, according to the website, is the presidential seal used for 'official documents of the University', rather than the 'broad application and digital use' for which the university seal was explicitly created, but its use is restricted save 'with permission from the Secretary of the University' (obviously, only internally - i assume that doesn't apply in cases of fair use e.g. here). does anyone know of more explicit guidelines for the use of the respective seals outside the university, or otherwise have a better understanding of the communication's page's information? Markelele (talk) 03:11, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Hello, yes the official seal is subject to internal institutional restrictions, including a prohibition on use without permission from the administration or public relations department but these restrictions are not binding on anyone outside of the university. This seal is the official seal of the university and qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law. --RaphaelQS (talk) 03:19, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
do you have information exterior to the above communications page, or a better parsing of it, with which to conclude that the presidential seal is the official seal? in my opinion - which is to say, as far as i understand - that page implies that the university seal should be preferred as the university's official seal. i do not mean to be dogmatic here; just trying, rather, to make the article as accurate as i am able. Markelele (talk) 03:33, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
We know that the presidential seal is the official seal of the university because he is used on diplomas. That's what an official university seal is used for in my understanding. --RaphaelQS (talk) 21:30, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
oh that's quite compelling actually - in that case, however, it seems like there's a substantial amount of editing that needs to be done throughout the set of articles employing the university infobox the image on harvard's page, e.g., doesn't appear to be the seal as it's stamped on harvard diplomas Markelele (talk) 00:49, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment – see this website for the official seal. I think the version we have now is fine. ☔️ Corkythehornetfan ☔️ 01:25, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
I don't know about Harvard, I'm not sure they use a seal on their diplomas, maybe you should talk about it in the talk page of the article? --RaphaelQS (talk) 16:55, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Requested Edits: Factual Updates[edit]

Hi all! I am a University of Chicago employee hoping to update some of the factual information throughout this page (see list below); because of my COI, I'm not able to carry out these edits myself, so I would greatly appreciate your assistance in making these changes. Thanks so much, and please let me know if you have any questions or concerns!

1. In the “1990s–2010s” section under “History,” the article refers to the planning stage for the Milton Friedman Institute, announced in 2008; today, the institute is called the Becker Friedman Institute for Research in Economics and is located in the newly renovated Saieh Hall for Economics. [1]

2. The “1990s–2010s” section might also make mention of the 2015 announcement that the University of Chicago would partner with the Obama Foundation to build the Barack Obama Presidential Center (this is mentioned toward the beginning of the article but may merit further discussion in the “History” section). [2]

3. In the “Campus” section, the University’s main campus is described as consisting of 211 acres; the correct figure for this is actually 217 acres. [3]

4. Also in the campus section, editors may wish to include information about any of the several buildings added to campus after 2011, such as the Center for Care and Discovery (2013) [4], Saieh Hall for Economics (2014) [5], The William Eckhardt Research Center (2015) [6], and Campus North Residential Commons (set to open by Fall 2016) [7].

5. In the “Administration and finances” section, “Dean of Students of the university” is incorrectly listed as being of UChicago’s fourteen Vice Presidents; the correct term here would be “Vice President for Campus Life and Student Services.” [8]

6. Also under “Administration and finances,” Andrew Alper is listed as the Chairman of the Board of Trustees; as of 2015, the Chairman of the Board of trustees is actually Joseph Neubauer. [9]

7. Also under “Administration and finances,” the figure for the University’s endowment is several years out of date; the endowment is currently valued at $7.6 billion. [10]

8. In the “Academics” section (including the “Graduate schools and committees” subsection), it should be noted that the University now has five graduate divisions, including the recently launched Institute for Molecular Engineering. [11]

9. Also in the “Academics” section, it’s inaccurate to characterize the Graham School of Continuing Liberal and Professional Studies as a professional school; the Graham school offers non-degree courses, certificates, and degree programs. [12]

10. Also in the “Professionals schools” subsection of the “Academics” section, more information could be added about the accreditation of the University’s various professional schools. [13]

11. Under “Associated academic institutions” in the “Academics” section, it should be noticed that the University of Chicago does not operate four charter schools but rather one charter school with four campuses. [14]

12. Under “Library system,” the information about the University of Chicago Library system should be updated to reflect that the system now contains 11 million volumes and is the 9th largest system in the United States. Also, the John Crerar Library currently contains more than 1.4 million volumes. [15]

13. Under “Research,” the number for the University of Chicago’s expenditures on scientific research is from 2006 and should be updated; the figure for fiscal year 2014 is $390,082. [16]

14. Also under “Research,” the first paragraph could be updated to note that the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching now classifies the University of Chicago as an institution with “highest research activity.” [17]

15. Also under “Research,” the second paragraph could be updated to note that there are now more than 140 research centers and institutes on campus. [18]

16. Also under “Research,” the University of Chicago does not actually have a stake in the Apache Point Observatory. I don’t have a source for this, but I also haven’t found a source refuting this—is there a protocol for dealing with this sort of situation on Wikipedia?

17. A few endeavors that might be relevant to include in this “Research” section would be UChicago’s involvement in the Giant Magellan Telescope [19], the South Pole Telescope [20] , and the Dark Energy Survey [21] .

18. Under “Arts,” the following statement at the end of the subsection is factually untrue: “This building is actually entirely glass. The brick is a facade designed to keep the glass safe from the wind. The architects later removed sections of the bricks when pressure arose in the form of complaints that the views of the city were blocked.” Again, I don’t have a source for this, but would the lack of a citation attached to the original claim be grounds for removal in itself?

19. Under “Reputation and rankings,” it may be relevant to include additional rankings from the Economist (which named the Booth School of Business the first among MBA programs)[22], the U.S. News Best Graduate Schools/Earth Sciences category (which ranked the University’s paleontology program first) [23], and the U.S. News survey of freshmen retention rates (in which the University of Chicago tied for first) [24].

20. Under “People,” it states that 50 University of Chicago students have received Rhodes Scholarships; the correct number is actually 49. [25]

21. Also under the “People” section, the table listing the demographics of the student body is a few years out of date and could be updated. [26]

23. Under the “Study body & admissions” section, the statistical information is also out of date and could be updated. [27]

24. Under “Faculty,” Yoichiro Nambu is listed as a current faculty member, but Nambu passed away in 2015 [28] . Also, Henry Paulson is also listed, but Paulson is a Senior Fellow, not a faculty member [29].

Thanks again, and please do be in touch if any questions arise regarding the above!

LJS15 (talk) 20:22, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Quick update: I have a few more factual updates to add, listed below. I'll also be posting another edit request shortly with some stylistic (rather than fact-based) changes that it would be great to see incorporated.

25. In the second paragraph, it states that there are approximately 5,000 students in the College; that number has risen to approximately 5,700 in the current era. [30]

26. In the fifth paragraph, which lists how many UChicago-affiliated individuals have received certain honors, the numbers are slightly out of date: the University now has 20 National Humanities Medalists and 22 Marshall Scholars. [31]

LJS15 (talk) 20:52, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

27. Under "Administration and finances," it should be noted that the Board of Trustees now has 55 members rather than 50. [32]

28. Under "Undergraduate college," it should be noted that there are now 51 majors and 33 minors available to students. [33]

LJS15 (talk) 20:59, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

29. Under "Graduate schools and committees," the number of graduate students in each division is out of date and could be updated. [34] LJS15 (talk) 21:25, 16 May 2016 (UTC)


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Thanks for posting this here. I don't think that anyone would have objections to you making uncontroversial edits to correct errors or bring information up-to-date. If you could do that it would significantly reduce your list of suggestions and make it more manageable for other editors. (You may be able to simply strikeout the items that you update yourself in the list above so it's clear to everyone what has been done and what still needs to be discussed.) ElKevbo (talk) 21:36, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the info—this is a huge huge help, and I really appreciate it! Making the factual/stylistic edits myself definitely seems like a more straightforward course of action, so I'll get going on that process soon; I just didn't want to start editing directly without checking in here first. Thanks again + have a great day! LJS15 (talk) 19:18, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
You're welcome. I recommend that you (a) be very sure to stick to edits that are purely stylistic, updates, corrections, or otherwise non-controversial and (b) make edits one-at-a-time so anyone who objects to an edit can easily undo just that one edit without having to revert or undo all of your work. Please let us know when you're done so we can tackle any remaining suggestions that require substantive discussion. ElKevbo (talk) 21:11, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
Ah, I just saw your note after making a bunch of changes all in one edit—sorry about that! I did definitely take a cautious approach and stick to stylistic changes and factual corrections, so hopefully there won't be any issues. I've struck through the edits I made on the list above; please be in touch if any questions or issues arise. Thanks again!! LJS15 (talk) 21:48, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Requested Edits: Stylistic Suggestions[edit]

Hi all! I'm a UChicago employee with COI regarding this article. I've already submitted a request regarding some factual updates to the University of Chicago page, but I also wanted to put in a request about some stylistic/grammatical changes that would be great to have implemented, listed below. As I understand it, COI editing can be permitted for fixing spelling and grammatical errors, but I've decided to err on the side of caution here and submit an edit request rather than editing directly—but if someone who is better-versed in Wikipedia's policies could point me to a more efficient/effective way of implementing these changes, please let me know. Thank you so much!

1. The term “Fermilab”—which occurs throughout the article, starting in the second paragraph—is a nickname for the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory; could the full name be used instead?

2. In the fourth paragraph, could “is home to” be changed to “has” and “visiting” be deleted?

3. Under “Campus,” the third paragraph has a typo, “a building designed by Ludwig Mies van der Rohe for the university's School of Social Service Administration;,”—that is, a semicolon directly followed by a comma, where there should be just a comma.

4. Under “Undergraduate college,” the first sentence of the second paragraph may be better phrased as follows: “Undergraduate students are required to take a distribution of courses to satisfy the university's general education requirements, commonly known as the Common Core.”

5. Under “Associated academic institutions,” the Council on Advanced Studies in the Humanities and Social Sciences is incorrectly referred to as “the Council on Advanced Studies in the Social Sciences and Humanities.” Please change to “Council on Advanced Studies in the Humanities and Social Sciences.” [1]

6. In the second paragraph under “Research,” the University’s relationship to Argonne National Laboratory and Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory may be better phrased as such: “The university manages Argonne National Laboratory and co-manages Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory (Fermilab), both part of the United States Department of Energy's national laboratory system.”

7. Also in the second paragraph under “Research,” there is a typo: “Faculty and students at the adjacent Toyota Technological Institute at Chicago collaborate with the university,” where the comma at the end should be a period.

8. Also in the second paragraph under “Research,” since the University of Chicago’s partnership with the Marine Biological Laboratory is now well underway, it may be more appropriate for the sentence about this to be worded as follows: “In 2013, the university formed an affiliation with the formerly independent Marine Biological Laboratory in Woods Hole, Mass.”

9. In the third paragraph under “Research,” Chicago Pile-1 may be best described as “(the first controlled, self-sustaining, man-made nuclear chain reaction, part of the Manhattan Project)” rather than “(the first self-sustained man-made nuclear reaction, part of the Manhattan Project)” as the article currently states.

10. In the first paragraph under “Arts,” the major “cinema and media studies” (mentioned twice) should be in all-lowercase and with the ampersand replaced by the word “and” written out.

11. Also in the first paragraph under “Arts,” the article refers to a “dramatic, music, and visual arts” requirement; it should actually read “musical” rather than “music.” Please also change “requiring” to “inviting” in this sentence.

12. Under “Student body & admissions,” there appears to be a typo—in one sentence it reads “study body” instead of “student body.”

13. Under “Student organizations,” please change “run over 400 clubs” to “operate more than 400 clubs.”

14. Under “Student government,” please change “is made up of” to “comprises” and “unit” to “units.”

15. In the caption for the image of Max Palevsky Residential Comments under “Student housing,” please change “constructed” to “completed.”

16. Also under “Student housing,” it would be more appropriate to use the term “First-years” rather than “Freshmen,” as the term “freshmen” is not used at the University of Chicago.

17. It would be great to reword the third paragraph under “Alumni” as follows: “Notable alumni in the field of education have emerged from almost all parts of the university, including these leaders who received PhDs from the Divinity School: college president and chancellor Rebecca Chopp, current president of Middlebury College Laurie L. Patton, former president of Morehouse College Robert M. Franklin, Jr., and president of Shimer College Susan Henking.”

18. In the seventh paragraph under “Alumni,” please change “Carl Van Vechten, photographer and writer” to “photographer and writer Carl Van Vechten.”

19. In the first paragraph under “Faculty,” the word “rewarded” should be changed to “awarded.”

LJS15 (talk) 21:33, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Same as above: Thanks for asking here and you should be fine making noncontroversial edits especially if you track what edits you've made and which ones still need to be discussed. ElKevbo (talk) 21:36, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Update: I went through and made the above stylistic edits on the advice that doing so would not violate Wikipedia's COI policy. Thanks + please let me know if any questions or issues arise! LJS15 (talk) 21:55, 17 May 2016 (UTC)


Kimberly Peirce, director of the Academy-Award winning Boys Don't Cry and Stop-Loss, is a graduate of the college of the University of Chicago. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smiley McGrouchpants (talkcontribs) 15:54, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

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