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::Please, please hold back on the proposals just a little. I appreciate your enthusiasm, and you are obviously a smart guy, but you jump a bit quick to want to take ''action''. Sometimes the best thing we can do there is just cool down, think it out, be patient. Remember: The goal is to seek peaceful resolution with the least amount of drama. If you are new to ANI, by all means, offer your opinions, but proposals generally cause more problems than they solve. Usually, people express opinions, and one of the admins will just boldly take action. Proposals are better for long term disputes that are so complicated, they have to be thought out, and usually aren't made until an ANI is open for a day or so. Patience is an asset at ANI, and in short supply. [[User:Dennis Brown|<span style="font-weight:900;color:#0044aa;">Dennis Brown</span>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] 18:34, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
::Please, please hold back on the proposals just a little. I appreciate your enthusiasm, and you are obviously a smart guy, but you jump a bit quick to want to take ''action''. Sometimes the best thing we can do there is just cool down, think it out, be patient. Remember: The goal is to seek peaceful resolution with the least amount of drama. If you are new to ANI, by all means, offer your opinions, but proposals generally cause more problems than they solve. Usually, people express opinions, and one of the admins will just boldly take action. Proposals are better for long term disputes that are so complicated, they have to be thought out, and usually aren't made until an ANI is open for a day or so. Patience is an asset at ANI, and in short supply. [[User:Dennis Brown|<span style="font-weight:900;color:#0044aa;">Dennis Brown</span>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] 18:34, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
:::Now I see why. This thread is quickly degenerating into what people hate about ANI. Though, shooting the messenger ''was'' appropriate here. I'm actually surprised that there have not been many other socking cases stemming from an ultimately unjust ban.--[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] [[User talk:Jasper Deng|(talk)]] 18:36, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
:::Now I see why. This thread is quickly degenerating into what people hate about ANI. Though, shooting the messenger ''was'' appropriate here. I'm actually surprised that there have not been many other socking cases stemming from an ultimately unjust ban.--[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] [[User talk:Jasper Deng|(talk)]] 18:36, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
::::One of the most important things to remember is this: When dealing with a "bad doer", be it a sockpuppet, vandal or edit warrior, you have to remain calm. Cool. Collected. If you ramp up the drama, you make it more likely that they will retaliate even more, so now you have more vandalism, more socks, more problems, and (sigh..) more work. Failure to handle a situation in a calm manner leads to more problems, more drama. You might notice, for instance, that if someone calls me an "asshat" or is otherwise insulting, I breeze over it and focus on the issue. At ANI, anything that is not related to directly finding resolution is a distraction and isn't helpful. This is why we focus on one problem at a time only, and don't introduce other problems when possible. It is all about being calm and staying focused. [[User:Dennis Brown|<span style="font-weight:900;color:#0044aa;">Dennis Brown</span>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] 18:44, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

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Discussion

JarlaxleArtemis and GoldenGlory84

Given your recent categorization of GoldenGlory84's sockpuppets, perhaps you could contribute some information to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive235#Community ban for GoldenGlory84. —Psychonaut (talk) 17:33, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Replied.--Jasper Deng (talk) 19:10, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RE: ANI notice

Thanks for letting me know. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 15:34, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Leannemarketer

Yes, the common troll. Bunt I don't know if we should move it to AN/ANI, but if s/he continues, s/he will be blocked soon. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 05:22, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See his/her talk page. I think it should go to AIV right now, or AN/ANI right now, given that I was pretty clear about what would happen on further trolling and the follow-up comment.--Jasper Deng (talk) 05:23, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I think that that is enough. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 05:28, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Clarify.--Jasper Deng (talk) 05:30, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) I filed an AIV report. No need for an AN/I on this case. If they think he's as useless as we do, he'll be blocked. Doc talk 05:36, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

NuttX Summary

Hi Jasper, about your edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NuttX_RTOS&diff=prev&oldid=493409158. I wanted to ask you to please reconsider the summarized description that I added to the NuttX_RTOS page, and that you deleted. I am not interested in heating-up the discussion already going on in that article, I actually find myself very privileged of being able to contribute directly to Wikipedia for the first time, as this article is in my domain of expertise.

There are many RTOS's out there and each has its own domain of expertise, and the main goals that each has is what drives their architecture and design. In the case of NuttX, it has been driven by the main two reasons as exactly as I put: standards compliance and small footprint . That is an emphasis that is very similar to, for example the Git_(software) emphasis on speed (specified in its article), that differentiates it for its homologous Subversion_(software). I find it very reasonable to include that in a software description as it is not only a mere statement, but for engineers it provides a lot of implicit technical context.

In addition, I found that the range of micro-controllers environment I specified, 8-bit to 32-bit, is not trivial in the embedded software context. When embedded software engineers look for an RTOS to their hardware, they care about the environment. For example, Linux, in its Embedded Linux variation only works for 32-bit environments. There are very few RTOS that supports 8-bit environments, NuttX is one of them.

Again, please consider me as a positive and profession contributor, as I also respect your professional role as a positive Wikipedia Editor. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpcarballo (talkcontribs) 23:26, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A better description is the OS architecture, who develops it, and architecture. Not everyone is a developer - you need to write for all of our possible audiences. "scalable" is a bad word to use on Wikipedia and I detest the use of such vague wording as that.--Jasper Deng (talk) 23:32, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That is good feedback, I will add more information about the OS architecture , and re-word to avoid using "scalable". I'll add that information in matter of days (very busy at the moment). Thank you. Jpcarballo (talk) 02:36, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

I was just about to go put the notice on their page- thanks for doing that for me! I had moved from the ANI page to the "request for protection" page to request protection until the AfD is over. Regardless of whether or not the group is notable, vandalism before the AfD has run its course ifs pretty bad, especially given the type of stuff they'd been doing.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 05:50, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not 100% vandalism, but blatant POV-pushing and advocacy.--Jasper Deng (talk) 05:51, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Thanks for your contributions, Jasper Deng. SwisterTwister talk 06:46, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Archiving sections

Just a quick heads up, normally you don't want to archive a discussion that you started. Someone pointed out the one at ANI on the ban vote. I'm leaving it alone as I'm trying to just let it die down, considering it a "withdraw" but normally it is better to just ask someone to close the section in a comment, and an uninvolved person will boldly do so. We have to be really careful to not be too quick at ANI, in starting or closing sections. Remember, we want to minimize drama, so we move a little slower when we can. ;) Dennis Brown - © 18:22, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I'm mostly new to handling ANI; thought it was a routing socking incident.--Jasper Deng (talk) 18:25, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Please, please hold back on the proposals just a little. I appreciate your enthusiasm, and you are obviously a smart guy, but you jump a bit quick to want to take action. Sometimes the best thing we can do there is just cool down, think it out, be patient. Remember: The goal is to seek peaceful resolution with the least amount of drama. If you are new to ANI, by all means, offer your opinions, but proposals generally cause more problems than they solve. Usually, people express opinions, and one of the admins will just boldly take action. Proposals are better for long term disputes that are so complicated, they have to be thought out, and usually aren't made until an ANI is open for a day or so. Patience is an asset at ANI, and in short supply. Dennis Brown - © 18:34, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Now I see why. This thread is quickly degenerating into what people hate about ANI. Though, shooting the messenger was appropriate here. I'm actually surprised that there have not been many other socking cases stemming from an ultimately unjust ban.--Jasper Deng (talk) 18:36, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
One of the most important things to remember is this: When dealing with a "bad doer", be it a sockpuppet, vandal or edit warrior, you have to remain calm. Cool. Collected. If you ramp up the drama, you make it more likely that they will retaliate even more, so now you have more vandalism, more socks, more problems, and (sigh..) more work. Failure to handle a situation in a calm manner leads to more problems, more drama. You might notice, for instance, that if someone calls me an "asshat" or is otherwise insulting, I breeze over it and focus on the issue. At ANI, anything that is not related to directly finding resolution is a distraction and isn't helpful. This is why we focus on one problem at a time only, and don't introduce other problems when possible. It is all about being calm and staying focused. Dennis Brown - © 18:44, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]