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[[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] , can you take a look at admin [[User:Rosguill|Rosguill]] comments on said talk page? I've also been coming up with drafts to resolve the dispute. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMalassay&type=revision&diff=1011819987&oldid=1011807877] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMalassay&type=revision&diff=1011788880&oldid=1011786691] [[User:Magherbin|Magherbin]] ([[User talk:Magherbin#top|talk]]) 21:39, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

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Harari people

Magherbin, I don’t know if you are from Horn of Africa, but, the Harari ethnicity- unlike Somali and Afar -aren’t a homogeneous group. We know that Sultan Nur Mujahid was Somali, but it was him who eradicated ethnicity in Adal. By that, he unified all the people in Harar city as Muslims. Hararis- for wich I personally know -are obviously a mix of different peoples; Arabs, Turks, and locals.

We know that the English people began with the Anglo-Saxons, but we can’t say English are solely descendants of those Germanics, rather they have a Celtic blood. The same way, Hararis are mix with Harla at the core. KenadidBile7 (talk) 04:48, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:KenadidBile7, provide references for all statements made and we can add them in the articles. In your edit summary you claimed the two "imams" were Gadabursi yet there are sources that claim both as Harari. I want to the see the reference that claims they were Gadabursi, secondly even if it exists it doesnt give you the right to remove other claims. In your other edit you claim the Arab saint Umar was a Somali, this claim would be rejected by the Somali Sheekhal clan themselves. Provide a reliable source otherwise this discussion is pointless. Magherbin (talk) 05:25, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will, but for Imam Ahmed Gurey, can’t oral tradition be a source? KenadidBile7 (talk) 05:28, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, if the reliable source mentions the oral tradition, it would be fine. Regards. Magherbin (talk) 05:38, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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4th Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn

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Your recent editing history at Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Ragnimo (talk) 03:24, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring at Ethiopian–Adal War

Hello Magherbin. You've been warned for edit warring per a complaint at the noticeboard. If you revert again on this page without getting a prior consensus for your change on the talk page you are risking a block. I'm also alerting you (below) to the new Horn of Africa discretionary sanctions. Let me know if you have any questions. EdJohnston (talk) 19:20, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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re:Jack Sparrow inspiration

First, the BBC magazine may be a reliable source, but Giles Milton is not. At least not about this particular subject. Why? For one simple reason. He's not a member a member of the Pirates of the Caribbean filming crew, and never was. Therefore, he cannot know what inspired the series down to the tiniest bit and what didn't.

Second, I have recently finished reading two POTC reference books. One is Pirates of the Caribbean: From the Magic Kingdom to the Movies (published in 2005), and the other is Bring Me That Horizon: The Making of Pirates of the Caribbean (published in 2007). In both books there is literally zero mention of John Ward/Jack Ward/Jack Birdy/Yusuf Reis or any other English privateer turned Barbary corsair. What those books do reveal is that Jack (still not called Jack Sparrow) was created in 2000 by Walt Disney Studios executives Brigham Taylor, Michael Haines, and Josh Harmon. The three main characters of the first POTC film were simply named Jack, Will, and Elizabeth, without any surnames. That initial story was later given to Jay Wolpert and finally to Stuart Beattie who gave Elizabeth the surname Swann and gave Jack the surname Sparrow to fit along Elizabeth's avian-inspired surname. Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio were later brought to write the proper script.

Third, the John Ward/Jack Sparrow connection was made up by Turkish journalists in 2017 to sell a few more papers. This Giles Milton guy simply fell prey to that deception, just like many other people. That's all.--Max Tomos (talk) 23:38, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User:Max Tomos, this is why I added according to Giles not the film crew, the Turkish articles should also be added into the article if thats what they claim, not the part that they want to sell "few more papers" though. Why would BBC magazine allow Giles to publish this? There's no issues with including that some theories have been put together to incline Jack Sparrow was based on the North African based Pirate of the Barbary Corsair. Magherbin (talk) 09:51, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

4th Malassay revert

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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue removed sourced content, and to unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Malassay, you may be blocked from editing.

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Edit warring at Malassay

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Per a complaint at the edit warring noticeboard. EdJohnston (talk) 21:25, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

EdJohnston , can you take a look at admin Rosguill comments on said talk page? I've also been coming up with drafts to resolve the dispute. [1] [2] Magherbin (talk) 21:39, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]