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thank you for your contribution to this discussion. do you know how it can be closed though? thank you much for your valuable help and input Grandia01 (talk) 09:35, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Let it run a little longer, so it can get more comments. Epicgenius (talk) 20:10, 15 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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You were wrong about your edit; here is my news source proof

Dear Epicgenius:

You changed my write-up about Mayor Eric Garcetti's F-Bomb, but did not explain what or why.

I gather you changed the part about his holding up a Bud Light bottle, to (incorrectly) his holding a water bottle. Here is just one of many news sources that said it was one of those tall, thin, aluminum Bud Light bottles. http://www.myfoxla.com/story/25791734/mayor-garcetti-drops-the-f-bomb-during-la-kings-rally-speech

Further, the Bud Light bottle is correct because that was the purpose of the Mayor's comment.

Please let me know where this is wrong or not constructive; it was a topic of national discussion, in context and accurate.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dog Boy Dan (talk • contribs) 02:23, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Dog Boy Dan: If you have a source, by all means feel free to re-add this back into the article. Epicgenius (talk) 02:26, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
HERE IS THE NEWS SOURCE: http://www.myfoxla.com/story/25791734/mayor-garcetti-drops-the-f-bomb-during-la-kings-rally-speech

FURTHER, YOU ADDED FALSE INFORMATION ABOUT IT BEING A WATER BOTTLE. Respectfully, you should not add information if you have no basis for doing it. You should also not delete information about Garcetti's "Rules of Decorum" when he was city council president, because it was connected to the city of LA losing a federal 1st Amendment lawsuit. Please take this in the right spirit, but it is disheartening to see you edit things where you are uninformed and don't bother to research the mainstream news source I provided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dog Boy Dan (talk • contribs) 02:32, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I said that you can re-add it. I am not opposed to re-adding the info with the source. Epicgenius (talk) 02:34, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Revisions to Manhattan article

I had deleted irrelevant and false information about $1.2 trillion GDP being directly related to Wall Street. This info was for GDP output by NY City. It does not belong in the Manhattan article. It can be included in the NY City article, along with all of the referenced citations, which are applicable for NY City or are adquately covered by other citations specifically for Wall Street.

A picture caption correctly made reference to "TriBeCa" with a link to the "Tribeca" Wikpedia article. "TriBeCa" is also used elsewhere in the Manhattan aricle. It had been this way for a long time. The picture caption was recently changed to "Tribeca" with an unnecessary redirect link from "Tribeca, Manhattan" to the "Tribeca" article. This change added no value to the article and only added more unnecessary bytes to the article. I changed it back.

If you have any questions or suggestions, please let me know.

I hope that we can work together. Thanks 67.84.204.32 (talk) 18:01, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I have added the GDP info to the NYC article. thanks. Epicgenius (talk) 18:12, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The update that you made to the Manhattan article is still incorrect and very confusing. It also really does not belong in the Manhattan article. It is better to keep that GDP info completely in the New York City article. Editors move information from one Wikipedia article to another all of the time based on clear explanations that they are moving this info in the edit history. They do not then leave the same information in the original article. It would have been better for you and I to address and agree on what the updates should be rather than simply going ahead and make the revisions.
Ultimately, what you have updated either needs to removed completely or radically changed. I would suggest it simply be removed and the updated sentence below included, with a note in the Edit History that the GDP info about the NY City metropolitan area is in the New York City article in the Economy section. So far, no one else has made any comments on this proposed change. None of the articles for the other boroughs has any NY City GDP info. It does not belong in the Manhattan article.
"Wall Street, in Lower Manhattan, has been called the financial capital of the world,[1][2] and is home to the New York Stock Exchange and NASDAQ."
The sentence about population should be modified, as noted below, since it flows better.
"Manhattan has the third-largest population of New York's five boroughs, after Brooklyn and Queens, and it is the smallest borough in land area."
Please advise if this is acceptable. I look forward to your response. 67.84.204.32 (talk) 19:09, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
To make matters even worse, it turns out that the reported GDP figure was not just for the five boroughs of New York City, but for the metropolitan area of New York City, Long Island, and northern NJ. It is already included in the NY City article in the Economy section with this referenced citation ("Gross Metropolitan Product".). All of the citations that you relocated to the New York city article do not even reference the GDP figure of over $1.2 trillion in the referenced statement and are really superfluous. It is not necessary to add anything further to the New York City article. This information definitely does not belong in the Manhattan article. 67.84.204.32 (talk) 23:52, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Your reason for only using Tribeca because "TriBeCa is a publicity capitalisation" is not supported by the Wikipedia article for Tribeca, which uses Tribeca and TriBeCa multiple times. As previously stated, "TriBeCa" is also used elsewhere in the Manhattan article. Most importantly, the person, who originally changed this picture caption from TriBeCa to Tribeca, did not object when I changed it back to TriBeCa based on a clear explanation in the Edit History.
I look forward to your response to all of the issues that I have raised so that we can have a mutually agreed update. Thanks for your cooperation. 67.84.204.32 (talk) 03:03, 20 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Pretty interesting. "TriBeCa" and "Tribeca" — it can go either way. It's publicised as TriBeCa, but I've seen many writings refer to the area as "Tribeca", with lowercase letters. You can revert my edit on Manhattan article, because it seems tha my GDP edit was way off topic. I don't have much Internet access, so I will write a longer reply later. Epicgenius (talk) 15:39, 21 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much. I will take care of the Manhattan article updates. I'm also going to note on the Talk page for the New York City article that your GDP addition in the New York City article at the beginning of that article can be removed since it is already adequately covered in the Economic section of that article with a more accurate and up-to-date citation.
Can you simply go into the New York City article and remove your GDP addition since I do not have editing access to that article?
As you must be well aware based on your extensive experience, it is sometimes amazing how the the smallest of revisions to a single item in a Wikipedia article can have a butterfly/mudslide/avalanche like effect as it begins to impact all of the related information in other parts of the article and in related Wikipedia articles. 67.84.204.32 (talk) 16:20, 21 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ "Table 1 GFCI 15 Ranks and Ratings – Page 7" (PDF). Qatar Financial Centre Authority and Z/Yen Group. March 2014. Retrieved March 26, 2014.
  2. ^ "London lags New York as world financial capital". MarketWatch, Inc. November 12, 2012. Retrieved March 26, 2014.
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